Kiwi Null - Kiwi Farms Joshua Moon Megathread

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That isn't really the point I was making... If anything you should be agreeing with me that it is always THOSE types of people jumping in like this:View attachment 94948

Again. I can't make this not what it is. Don't be mad at me for pointing this out. They were ruining this shit for longer than I have been alive. I will even go as far to say they inserted themselves into the opposite political spectrum too.

Gays, lesbians, and bisexuals get mad at pedophiles and trannies joining their causes. At this point every major religion accepts trannies to be muh inclusive. Even Islam, but they force transition gays as therapy so that is it's own beast entirely. All I'm saying is people like this hide behind every political movement and whatever corporations they can. That is the actual problem. But every one of these things hides their own to not look bad themselves. When they should all be working together to remove them.

To be honest, you can't blame mainstream gays and lesbians getting pissed at pedophiles trying to coat-tail off the gay rights movement. Transpeople are a different matter. You had transpeople even during the time of the prophet (Muhammed) and interacted with him. One of them had a wife and family. I draw the line between mainstream transgendered individuals and a freak who suddenly proclaims he's a woman and wants to change in a woman's locker room.

 

[youthful_ shannel]

Is this new? Is Hardin suing Kandiyohi again? Is this new? It's from two days ago.


This tweet reads like 90% of the posts on Onion Farms.

 

[Muttley]

To be honest, you can't blame mainstream gays and lesbians getting pissed at pedophiles trying to coat-tail off the gay rights movement. Transpeople are a different matter. You had transpeople even during the time of the prophet (Muhammed) and interacted with him. One of them had a wife and family. I draw the line between mainstream transgendered individuals and a freak who suddenly proclaims he's a woman and wants to change in a woman's locker room.

I don't think pedos really ride the coat tails of the gay rights movement
some weirdos online try to pretend they are part of the broader intersectional movement but like
I think the only people who might include them would be more political leaning marxists who have been talking about that since like the 1970s
i don't think the alphabet people are ready to add map just yet though, i think they would find more acceptance with the commies tbh

 

[Gore San]

To be honest, you can't blame mainstream gays and lesbians getting pissed at pedophiles trying to coat-tail off the gay rights movement. Transpeople are a different matter. You had transpeople even during the time of the prophet (Muhammed) and interacted with him. One of them had a wife and family. I draw the line between mainstream transgendered individuals and a freak who suddenly proclaims he's a woman and wants to change in a woman's locker room.

You can't really blame gays lesbians bis and historians for getting upset at transgender people inserting themselves into the GLB movement and trying to revise parts of history they were never a part of to insert modern transgender shit retroactively. Like when you see ideals or technology that didn't exist in time periods of Hollywood movies and you think to yourself that wasn't in invented yet and people didn't think that way. There were no transgenders before the 20th century, all of it is incorrect modern thinking

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

I don't think pedos really ride the coat tails of the gay rights movement
some weirdos online try to pretend they are part of the broader intersectional movement but like
I think the only people who might include them would be more political leaning marxists who have been talking about that since like the 1970s
i don't think the alphabet people are ready to add map just yet though, i think they would find more acceptance with the commies tbh

Partnering with commies is just as dumb as partnering with pedos though.

Why was Pride Month pretty weak this year? It wasn't just Trump taking away the USAID money that funded social activist programs like pride parades, another big reason was various Jewish progressive activist groups pulling their funding away from many Pride-related events this year over a sizeable chunk of the LGBT community criticizing Israel and they're partnering with commies that oppose Israel and Zionism.

No government subsidies and no Jewish progressive money means no more LGBT pride anymore. Partnering with unironic pedos or partnering with any political extremist group (like commies) is the kiss of the death for any social-political movement.

 

[Gore San]

Partnering with commies is just as dumb as partnering with pedos though.

Why was Pride Month pretty weak this year? It wasn't just Trump taking away the USAID money that funded social activist programs like pride parades, another big reason was various Jewish progressive activist groups pulling their funding from many Pride-related events this year over a sizeable chunk of the LGBT community criticizing Israel and they're partnering with commies that oppose Israel and Zionism.

No government subsidies and no Jewish progressive money means no more LGBT pride anymore. Partnering with unironic pedos or partnering with any political extremist group (like commies) is the kiss of the death for any social-political movement.

I still find it funny how the LGBT lacks the self preservation to side with Islam.

 

[Muttley]

Partnering with commies is just as dumb as partnering with pedos though.

that's why they are the perfect match

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

I still find it funny how the LGBT lacks the self preservation to side with Islam.

It's the Progressive paradox.

Progressives aren't wrong when they say that Christianity and Judaism (or at least Orthodox Judaism) tend to hold on to some pretty social conservative views when it comes to things like women's rights, LGBT rights, and so on. But progressives paradoxically still support Islam even through Islam commands that you must establish a theocratic government (Sharia Law) and LGBT people must be subject to either imprisonment and/or execution under Sharia Law. The only reason why progressives support Islam is because it's the religion of the Middle Eastern brown man and something something white man bad and capitalism bad (because progressives think anything that is the opposite of whitey and capitalism has to be good which is retarded thinking).

As for Israel, there's a lot to criticize Israel for (like their treatment of the Palestinians) but so far Israel is the only Middle Eastern country on the planet that at least does the bare minimum to protect human rights for the most part. You can at least host a pride parade in Tel Aviv and not face any legal repercussions (the Israeli government doesn't really care that someone is gay; they even let gays and lesbians and bisexuals serve openly in the IDF); try doing this in a country like Saudi Arabia and see how far that gets you.

 

[Muttley]

It's the Progressive paradox.

Progressives aren't wrong when they say that Christianity and Judaism (or at least Orthodox Judaism) tend to hold on to some pretty social conservative views when it comes to things like women's rights, LGBT rights, and so on. But progressives paradoxically still support Islam even through Islam commands that you must establish a theocratic government (Sharia Law) and LGBT people must be subject to either imprisonment and/or execution under Sharia Law. The only reason why progressives support Islam is because it's the religion of the Middle Eastern brown man and something something white man bad and capitalism bad (because progressives think anything that is the opposite of whitey and capitalism has to be good which is retarded thinking).

As for Israel, there's a lot to criticize Israel for (like their treatment of the Palestinians) but so far Israel is the only Middle Eastern country on the planet that at least does the bare minimum to protect human rights for the most part. You can at least host a pride parade in Tel Aviv and not face any legal repercussions (the Israeli government doesn't really care that someone is gay; they even let gays and lesbians and bisexuals serve openly in the IDF); try doing this in a country like Saudi Arabia and see how far that gets you.

It's not a paradox, it makes perfect sense when you're willing to admit that all these organizable minorites are being brought together to kill the national identity.

it doesnt matter who you are as long as you are opposed to the White man who built the world and gave you everything that you hold dear and value, then you're good, because anything not White and male and normative, is good, by virtue on not being White or male or normative, which is bad.

 

[Gore San]

Ok but Muhammad was a white man who owned black slaves and the Koran talks about the whiteness of his armpits or something like some fan fiction. Net erotica.

 

[Muttley]

Ok but Muhammad was a white man who owned black slaves and the Koran talks about the whiteness of his armpits or something like some fan fiction. Net erotica.

A Shemite with red hair is the exact opposite of a White man, moreso than the Black man even. His grandfather al Muttalib was a Jew.

 

[Muttley]

Also the very defining trait of a Muslim is that they, ideally, belong to a supernational theocracy.
Muslims can never be a part of the White national identity, even if they were to come from Saxon stock.
Ipso facto they can never be White.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

It's not a paradox, it makes perfect sense when you're willing to admit that all these organizable minorites are being brought together to kill the national identity.

Not a bad point. I see this a lot with progressives where they want to take a country that is relevantly stable to begin with and then they go in and try to fuck it up. I can think of a few examples.

There's Japan. The progressives want Japan to take in more immigrants to stabilize their birth rate crisis and now it seems Japan is taking note from Europe where it seems they will go more harder to the Right because they don't want to end up like Europe. Japan is generally a very safe and clean country but for some reason safe and stable is kryptonite to progressives.

Then you have Europe. The social climate in Europe is unstable because Europe fell for the Merkel grift to open their borders to migrants and now they're causing trouble which is why right-wing populist parties are rising in Europe.

Then there is Israel. The progressives see Jews as another branch of white people. Because Israel is homogeneous like Japan and Israel is a free market country, the progressives see that as a bad thing so they'll support Hamas and other Islamic terrorist groups to try to turn Israel into another Muslim shithole.

Even in some third-world countries, progressives still have issue with some countries in the third-world. El Salvador and Argentina recently voted in new governments (El Salvador voted for a populist party that rounded up the violent criminals and Argentina voted in for a libertarian government). The progressives now hate El Salvador and Argentina because El Salvador locked up their violent criminals and made their country as safe as Japan and El Salvador inviting more foreign capital to boost the tiny nation's economy while Argentina voted in for a libertarian where their current libertarian president dismantled the institutions of Peronist authoritarianism and making Argentina a free market country again. They hate El Salvador for getting rid of their violent gangs and they hate Argentina for becoming more capitalist again and they hate these two countries equally for wanting to become developed countries.

I see progressives as locusts where everywhere they go, they eat away at the crops and move on to the next area that they can decimate.

 

[Muttley]

There's Japan. The progressives want Japan to take in more immigrants to stabilize their birth rate crisis and now it seems Japan is taking note from Europe where it seems they will go more harder to the Right because they don't want to end up like Europe. Japan is generally a very safe and clean country but for some reason safe and stable is kryptonite to progressives.

I think in Japan the cope is that cultural suicide is the only way for line to go up.

 

[Lunar Magma]

Dead site.

And even when they're up, they only have 2500 - 3000 active users. Only 900 can be bothered to log in and post, so those are the hardcore users. The rest are just lurkers. When you put this in perspective, this is a tiny userbase. At their peak popularity, the Groypers were 10,000 people as one example before they fell from grace.

Here's a thought. The Kiwi Farms is dying. As such, to keep a group together, one way is to redirect all their minds and energy into attacking a scapegoat. Right now that scapegoat is Vtubers/anime/lolicons. In recent past and now, it is also Nick Rekieta. In the past, it was Ethan Ralph. Or LFJ or Vordrak. You attack some external group or single target to rally your troops and strengthen their bonds for the in-group (KF). It lets the in-group feel morally righteous and purposeful like you are accomplishing something. The sad reality is that it's just a purity-spiral witchunt. No one is actually pure enough to survive the witchburning, especially not the dear leader Josh with his extensive online Blocklands past. The anime-avatars bullied Josh for years so he hates them all and has PTSD from even seeing anime cause he associates that with people bullying him for scamming 12K from 8chan. It also hurts badly when your website is irrelevant and gets little buzz but people use it for their own content to get rich like TurkeyTom. It stings when you gotta watch Vtubers make Kirsche and Gura/Saba (who just got doxxed today on KF btw) make boatloads of money pandering to lolicons. So it feels rewarding to attack the Vtubers out of spite and sour grapes. And there's decent overlap between the Vtubers and lolicons so you lump them all together as "anime-people" and attack them.

So when your website is irrelevant and bleeds out users every month (and you ban dozens per week), what can you do to pump engagement so you can keep getting dono's and sit on your ass and not have to work? You insert the KF everywhere, into everything trending trying to jump on topics like a tick on a dog. And you attack a couple scapegoats to keep the in-group together. When they attack the out-group, they are not infighting and tearing each other to shreds. Ultimately, most KF'ers can't help themselves as they've been whipped up into a moral panic in a purity spiral. So they will attack each other and dox each other and turn themselves into the content. It's kind of like the movie "The Thing" where there is a dangerous alien they call "The Thing" that can mimic humans' appearances and a group of people are trapped in a snowy building with "The Thing." The alien could be any of them but it looks just like a human so they are walking around with a flamethrower (just like the flames of a witchburning) trying to hunt down The Thing. The paranoia goes through the roof and consumes the entire group as they accuse each other of being The Thing. The KF'ers all have skeletons in their closets so any of them could be Vtuber fans or lolicons or anime fans.

So right now, Josh points to the lolicons and thinks it's a slam dunk target cause "Won't someone please think of the children?" (that are not real and fictional characters, which is akin to playing GTA and running people over in the car in a video game). But Josh is not campaigning to stop portraying fantasy violence in video games, movies, or tv shows bc there is no one he is jealous of that is making millions of dollars like Kirsche or Saba so he's not going to pretend to be outraged against these topics.

Null brought this on himself, he's basically made his whole identity about being in the back alley of the internet and running an alleged "terrorist board", then just alienates other dissidents with his bannings and atrocious behavior. Just think, if null hadn't banned so many people, if he hadn't deffered to lidl drip so much, he had acted fairly. Onion farms would barely have any users(It probably wouldn't even exist), nobody would be bringing up his past, null himself gave out the advice not to make enemies because you don't know how crazy and persistent someone could be in finding info about you, yet he went out and made enemies.


Who the hell calls a girl bro? This sounds gay as hell.

I am really bad at remembering usernames, that girl just registers as the "one with the surly man as her pfp"

If you read Lidl Drip, you will see despite being a feminist, she is very masculine in her language like a teenage edgy boy. It's one of the secret tells that "she" is not what she seems. That is why she reads as a Josh sock.

 

[Lunar Magma]

El Salvador locked up their violent criminals and made their country as safe as Japan

I'm pressing x to doubt on that one.

As for Israel, there's a lot to criticize Israel for (like their treatment of the Palestinians) but so far Israel is the only Middle Eastern country on the planet that at least does the bare minimum to protect human rights for the most part.

What part of bombing kids and families, bulldozing their houses, and shipping in Israeli settlers to replace them is "protecting human rights?" I guess if you only consider Jews human and Palestinians as non-human, then that can make sense.
>But Israel allows gays to be gay and have parades in the street.
Whoop de doo. The rest of your posts I don't disagree with. I'm just nitpicking some points that stood out to me.

 

[Gore San]

I'm pressing x to doubt on that one.

What part of bombing kids and families, bulldozing their houses, and shipping in Israeli settlers to replace them is "protecting human rights?" I guess if you only consider Jews human and Palestinians as non-human, then that can make sense.
>But Israel allows gays to be gay and have parades in the street.
Whoop de doo. The rest of your posts I don't disagree with. I'm just nitpicking some points that stood out to me.

So you're not going to mention that's what the rest of the middle east wants to do with Israel? I want it all carpet bombed and replaced with McDonald's and Walmart because fuck jews and Muslims.

 

[Muttley]

You attack some external group or single target to rally your troops and strengthen their bonds for the in-group (KF). It lets the in-group feel morally righteous and purposeful like you are accomplishing somethin

I dunno that sounds a little Jewish to me, very few groups actually define themselves by otherizing some external actor.
Accusations of demonizing others is just a way for the criticized to dehumanize critics, who would exclude or castigate bad behavior.

Personally I think there's a struggle in communities online that I've noticed since I was a young man on 420chan, and that's the back and forth between some users wanting porn, some users not wanting porn, and the jannies wanting to deal with none of it. Tranime is a natural enemy of everyone who doesn't want porn because it becomes the outlet for erotic images when porn gets banned.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

I'm pressing x to doubt on that one.

What part of bombing kids and families, bulldozing their houses, and shipping in Israeli settlers to replace them is "protecting human rights?" I guess if you only consider Jews human and Palestinians as non-human, then that can make sense.
>But Israel allows gays to be gay and have parades in the street.
Whoop de doo. The rest of your posts I don't disagree with. I'm just nitpicking some points that stood out to me.

Some things about Geopolitics never change though.

The United States is considered the most individualist and freest country on the planet but it's a country not without sin either. If you know your Cold War history, America backed human rights violators to counter communism and the Soviet Union. The Western world backed people like Augusto Pinochet (Chile), Juan Peron (Argentina), and Alfredo Strossner (Paraguay) in the late-20th century because at the time they were the lesser of two evils because the alternative for latin america would be communism (America would literately support any dictatorship back in the day if they hated commies).

It's the same with Israel. I don't deny that Israel commits its share of war crimes against the Palestinians (can't argue with that) and Israel is given a lot of American taxpayer money for their things like their Iron Dome system; but the alternative for the Middle East is letting Islamic terrorist groups be left to their own devices causing chaos around the world. Why does America support Benjamin Netanyahu bombing hospitals and killing Palestinian children? Same reasons America supported Pinochet throwing commies off helicopters where those commies plunged to their deaths into the Pacific Ocean. Geopolitics has always been one big Chess board where there's hardly any room for ethics unfortunately. I don't like it either but this is how warfare has always been.

As for El Salvador, crime still happens there (it's a third-world country) but gangs like MS-13, 18th Street Gang, various Mexican cartels, and others of the like now avoid El Salvador like the plague because none of them want to rot in that supermax prison for their rest of their lives. Who knew that being tough on crime means a much safer country.

 

[Gore San]

A Shemite with red hair is the exact opposite of a White man, moreso than the Black man even. His grandfather al Muttalib was a Jew.

Muhammad had black hair and white skin tho