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My name is Josh, I'm a sissy, my purpose is to worship Liz fong-jones
My name is Josh, I'm a sissy, my purpose is to worship Liz fong-jones
My name is Josh, I'm a sissy, my purpose is to worship Liz fong-jones
TheCIAGlowsInTheDark
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I still find it weird to see someone wear gloves to handle grocery store pastries.
Jersh isn't handling superhot chili peppers like the Carolina Reaper, Jersh isn't handling a piece of expensive food like saffron or A5 graded waygu beef, and he isn't handling 1 Kilo gold bars or Rolex watches. He's handling cheap supermarket food.
It's as weird as wearing sunglasses indoors.
Call it a gut hunch but I think this may be it for Kiwi Farms.
The fact that he is locking down the thread and is censoring people talking about LFJ shows me that the walls are probably closing in.
This may be it for Kiwi Farms where while they survived previous lawsuits in the past, this may be the lawsuit that does them in.
I think Jersh is scared of the possibility of losing.
If Jersh loses his lawsuit, that's it. Game over.
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thepeaguy
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NonceFigger is the gift that keeps on givin'
testimonials. all this noncery goin' on 'n Nooly Nool will still claim KF is an 'essential service' lol
TheCIAGlowsInTheDark
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So Toji was trying to get into the pants of a lolicon gooner? I find that really fucking hilarious considering the fact that the dude was A-Logging the lolicons on Kiwi Farms prior to his permanent ban (what a fucking hypocrite).
Shit like this is why I find the moralfagging opinions from Kiwi Farms to be worthless. I hate bringing up Nick Fuentes (I really do not like bringing him up) but once again I have to make the comparison.
Anyone familiar with Nick Fuentes will know that he holds some deep anti-homosexual views due to his extreme religious beliefs. However, the reason why you should take Nick Fuentes' opinions on homosexuality as being worthless is because there is plenty of strong evidence to show that Nick Fuentes is in the closet (from Nick Fuentes going on a date with a femboy, to Nick Fuentes telling his audience that having sex with women is gay, and Nick Fuentes accidentally showing gay porn on a stream). Nick Fuentes is an open homophobe but the man was caught several times being shown that he strongly prefers men over women (it's pretty clear with current evidence that Nick Fuentes prefers penis over vagina).
No one should take Nick Fuentes seriously when it comes to the topic of homosexuality and no one should take Kiwi Farms seriously when it comes to the topics of gooning, lolicon, and porn in general.
Why did people back in the day laughed at Jimmy Swaggert for having sex with hookers? Because he was a hypocritical moralfag that preached sexual morality but then he got caught having sex with prostitutes a couple of times. Why take anything Kiwi Farms says about morality seriously if they aren't going to practice what they preach? Kiwi Farms' views on human sexuality in general are about as valuable and useful as a chocolate teapot over an open fire.
Let's answer this question from another Kiwi in the MATI thread who was entirely ignored by Null, so that everyone lurking along with this thread knows exactly that the fuck the "girl talks with the wives of tech CEOs" innuendo that Null always brings up in reference to LFJ is actually in reference to:
The woman in question is called Natalie Tyree. She is the wife of Rob Tyree, the CEO of Fiberhub, a company where Null's physical servers were stored. Fiberhub were aggressively and openly targeted during #DropKiwiFarms on Twitter with the TRAs not only openly threatening to DDoS Fiberhub, but even openly threatening to show up at their offices to physically block their employees from entering the building with the servers. This very public attack against Fibernet escalated to #DKF even targeting Natalie herself.
Null's nemesis Vordrak posted about the incident on his blog (no direct link because this person has been banned from this forum):
It was Sinseer aka @DropKiwiFarms aka John Dimitriadis who screenshot and quoted an excerpt of an e-mail by an unnamed #DropKiwiFarms participant who revealed in that e-mail that Natalie had been targeted by #DropKiwiFarms, not because she personally had anything to do with KiwiFarms but solely on the basis of her husband doing business with Null. #DropKiwiFarms targeted Natalie and got her fired from her job at a company called 21 Century where she worked as a realtor. #DropKiwiFarms then sent out an e-mail to TRA-allied journalists bragging about getting this woman fired, asking the journalists to cover the incident in order to smear Natalie after the fact.
Null claims that Natalie was contacted directly by LFJ, but I have never seen any evidence backing this claim. I don't know if either Natalie herself or perhaps her husband had told Null that LFJ had called up Natalie directly. Knowing what I know about LFJ and how utterly lawless and brazen he is in his behind-the-scenes intimidation of people, I definitely consider LFJ capable of doing something like that. Even in the absence of any evidence, this story is in line with my personal impression of LFJ as someone who is sadistic and intimidating, and willing to go behind-the-scenes when he can't get something done through regular means.
Here is the tweet from Sinseer where he quoted the excerpt from the mail where another #DropKiwiFarms participant told the story about targeting Natalie and bragging to #DKF journalists about it. Apparently several people within #DKF, besides the journalists, were BCCed in this correspondence.
For the TLDR version of this story analyzing the excerpted e-mail that Sinseer tweeted, click on the spoiler:
The woman in question is called Natalie Tyree. She is the wife of Rob Tyree, the CEO of Fiberhub, a company where Null's physical servers were stored. Fiberhub were aggressively and openly targeted during #DropKiwiFarms on Twitter with the TRAs not only openly threatening to DDoS Fiberhub, but even openly threatening to show up at their offices to physically block their employees from entering the building with the servers. This very public attack against Fibernet escalated to #DKF even targeting Natalie herself.
Null's nemesis Vordrak posted about the incident on his blog (no direct link because this person has been banned from this forum):
It was Sinseer aka @DropKiwiFarms aka John Dimitriadis who screenshot and quoted an excerpt of an e-mail by an unnamed #DropKiwiFarms participant who revealed in that e-mail that Natalie had been targeted by #DropKiwiFarms, not because she personally had anything to do with KiwiFarms but solely on the basis of her husband doing business with Null. #DropKiwiFarms targeted Natalie and got her fired from her job at a company called 21 Century where she worked as a realtor. #DropKiwiFarms then sent out an e-mail to TRA-allied journalists bragging about getting this woman fired, asking the journalists to cover the incident in order to smear Natalie after the fact.
Null claims that Natalie was contacted directly by LFJ, but I have never seen any evidence backing this claim. I don't know if either Natalie herself or perhaps her husband had told Null that LFJ had called up Natalie directly. Knowing what I know about LFJ and how utterly lawless and brazen he is in his behind-the-scenes intimidation of people, I definitely consider LFJ capable of doing something like that. Even in the absence of any evidence, this story is in line with my personal impression of LFJ as someone who is sadistic and intimidating, and willing to go behind-the-scenes when he can't get something done through regular means.
Here is the tweet from Sinseer where he quoted the excerpt from the mail where another #DropKiwiFarms participant told the story about targeting Natalie and bragging to #DKF journalists about it. Apparently several people within #DKF, besides the journalists, were BCCed in this correspondence.
For the TLDR version of this story analyzing the excerpted e-mail that Sinseer tweeted, click on the spoiler:
In this Oct 21st, 2022 tweet Sinseer included an screenshot excerpt from a presumably much longer e-mail by an unnamed participant in #DropKiwiFarms
I personally assume it was written by Liz Fong Jones himself, judging from the style of writing, but I have no way to prove this and I could be wrong. It could've been written by Esqueer, or Keffals, or Sinseer himself, or anyone else who was part of the campaign.
The e-mail is written is a weird passive tense to cover-up who was doing what to whom, to make it seem like shit was "just happening" on its own with no one driving it, but reading the message line-by-line it becomes clear what actually happened here: someone in #DropKiwiFarms got a woman named Natalie fired at a company called Century 21, and whoever wrote this letter (who is writing in a manner to make it seem like they personally aren't the person who got Natalie fired) is justifying it saying Natalie deserved it because "Null targets families".
Quoting from the excerpt:
This refers to the fact that lolcows will sometimes retaliate by targeting the families of either Kiwis, or by targeting Null's own family members. We know this is a fact, f.e. with Greta Gustava. Fun fact, LFJ himself first got involved with KF because of the whole TransLifeLine thing. That's literally how far back this vendetta goes. LFJ sided with TLL regarding the $ 350k wasted by them on personal expenses, for which Greta et al were never held accountable. That's how this whole saga actually started and how LFJ originally earned himself a thread on KF. As you can see, in this post too Null describes Liz Fong Jones as someone who "harasses the families of CEOs who run T1 ISPs to try and remove the Kiwi Farms from the internet to this day.".
After issuing a perfunctory disclaimer to misdirect, whoever wrote this message obviously does condone lolcows doing after Null's or Kiwis' families, and specifically the targeting of this woman Natalie.
Whoever wrote this thinks that anyone "facilitating" KiwiFarms in any shape or form deserves to lose their job and be delegated to "pariah business status". The end goal of #DropKiwiFarms was not just to censor the forum but always the life ruination of anyone associated in any way with KF, even if they are two degrees removed.
Whoever wrote this e-mail CCed it to Taylor Lorenz, Erin Reed and Kat Tenbarge. Only half joking.
The "Natalie" referred to here is the wife of Rob Tyree of Fiberhub. Natalie was working at Century 21 and was apparently fired due to #DropKiwiFarms harassing her employer about her husband providing services to KiwiFarms. "Her page has now been removed" probably refers to her company profile at the Century 21 website being removed after she got fired.
Whoever wrote this e-mail was gloating to the other members of #DKF about "someone" getting Natalie fired, insisting (to deflect) that they don't condone targeting family members, except they totally do and this is an example of them doing just that.
Sinseer responds to this excerpt in his tweet specifically stating it's about Natalie Tyree:
So there you go, this AFAIK is all the public evidence that was available at the time for the alleged "girl-talk" between Liz Fong Jones and Natalie Tyree. I personally have seen no evidence of LFJ directly communicating with Natalie, AFAIK there is no recording of a phonecall or a screenshot of a DM or something conclusive like that. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if LFJ or anyone else in #DropKiwiFarms had decided to contact Natalie themselves first to emotionally blackmail her, and only decided to start mail-bombing Century 21 after Natalie presumably told #DropKiwiFarms to fuck off. I don't know if Null himself has spoken to Natalie about this incident and if it was Natalie herself that told Null LFJ had contacted her.
Anyways, we know who this woman is and what her name is, so presumably, if necessary, Null can subpoena Natalie Tyree to take the stand to answer questions about getting fired due to #DropKiwiFarms harassing Century 21 about her husband going business with KF.
I would really appreciate it if Null would just respond to Kiwis in the MATI thread by link to all this shit instead of just alluding to it like it's some kind of vague innuendo that only the most dedicated MATI listeners knowing the deep lore about. I bet most Kiwis have never actually seen any of this shit and are seeing it for the first time if they're lurking here.
Hearing Null on MATI saying Asmongold should talk to him because he will package this up for him nice and neat, no dude, you never link or refer to primary sources. Everything is innuendo with you, and you're not helping your case when the actual factual sources are there but you're too lazy to look into them.
I also recall Null at time time repeatedly warning Kiwis on the forum and on MATI during #DropKiwiFarms saying "don't look at Twitter" (LMAO, everyone was looking at Twitter, because Null wasn't giving us answers, and Twitter was for many the only way to find out if and how to get back on the forum, because for those not Telegram the .onion address was only being posted there. I myself got the first .onion address from Twitter because I was not on Telegram at all). This is going to bite him in the ass now, because Null has no idea what was actually said by whom. I get it that he was too busy keeping the site up but Null just got the Chinese Whispers version of events. Hence the "girl-talk = troon blackmail" and the "dog hair on the shirt = troon rape" innuendo instead of actual links to sources of what was actually said.
I personally assume it was written by Liz Fong Jones himself, judging from the style of writing, but I have no way to prove this and I could be wrong. It could've been written by Esqueer, or Keffals, or Sinseer himself, or anyone else who was part of the campaign.
The e-mail is written is a weird passive tense to cover-up who was doing what to whom, to make it seem like shit was "just happening" on its own with no one driving it, but reading the message line-by-line it becomes clear what actually happened here: someone in #DropKiwiFarms got a woman named Natalie fired at a company called Century 21, and whoever wrote this letter (who is writing in a manner to make it seem like they personally aren't the person who got Natalie fired) is justifying it saying Natalie deserved it because "Null targets families".
Quoting from the excerpt:
This refers to the fact that lolcows will sometimes retaliate by targeting the families of either Kiwis, or by targeting Null's own family members. We know this is a fact, f.e. with Greta Gustava. Fun fact, LFJ himself first got involved with KF because of the whole TransLifeLine thing. That's literally how far back this vendetta goes. LFJ sided with TLL regarding the $ 350k wasted by them on personal expenses, for which Greta et al were never held accountable. That's how this whole saga actually started and how LFJ originally earned himself a thread on KF. As you can see, in this post too Null describes Liz Fong Jones as someone who "harasses the families of CEOs who run T1 ISPs to try and remove the Kiwi Farms from the internet to this day.".
After issuing a perfunctory disclaimer to misdirect, whoever wrote this message obviously does condone lolcows doing after Null's or Kiwis' families, and specifically the targeting of this woman Natalie.
Whoever wrote this thinks that anyone "facilitating" KiwiFarms in any shape or form deserves to lose their job and be delegated to "pariah business status". The end goal of #DropKiwiFarms was not just to censor the forum but always the life ruination of anyone associated in any way with KF, even if they are two degrees removed.
Whoever wrote this e-mail CCed it to Taylor Lorenz, Erin Reed and Kat Tenbarge. Only half joking.
The "Natalie" referred to here is the wife of Rob Tyree of Fiberhub. Natalie was working at Century 21 and was apparently fired due to #DropKiwiFarms harassing her employer about her husband providing services to KiwiFarms. "Her page has now been removed" probably refers to her company profile at the Century 21 website being removed after she got fired.
Whoever wrote this e-mail was gloating to the other members of #DKF about "someone" getting Natalie fired, insisting (to deflect) that they don't condone targeting family members, except they totally do and this is an example of them doing just that.
Sinseer responds to this excerpt in his tweet specifically stating it's about Natalie Tyree:
So there you go, this AFAIK is all the public evidence that was available at the time for the alleged "girl-talk" between Liz Fong Jones and Natalie Tyree. I personally have seen no evidence of LFJ directly communicating with Natalie, AFAIK there is no recording of a phonecall or a screenshot of a DM or something conclusive like that. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if LFJ or anyone else in #DropKiwiFarms had decided to contact Natalie themselves first to emotionally blackmail her, and only decided to start mail-bombing Century 21 after Natalie presumably told #DropKiwiFarms to fuck off. I don't know if Null himself has spoken to Natalie about this incident and if it was Natalie herself that told Null LFJ had contacted her.
Anyways, we know who this woman is and what her name is, so presumably, if necessary, Null can subpoena Natalie Tyree to take the stand to answer questions about getting fired due to #DropKiwiFarms harassing Century 21 about her husband going business with KF.
I would really appreciate it if Null would just respond to Kiwis in the MATI thread by link to all this shit instead of just alluding to it like it's some kind of vague innuendo that only the most dedicated MATI listeners knowing the deep lore about. I bet most Kiwis have never actually seen any of this shit and are seeing it for the first time if they're lurking here.
Hearing Null on MATI saying Asmongold should talk to him because he will package this up for him nice and neat, no dude, you never link or refer to primary sources. Everything is innuendo with you, and you're not helping your case when the actual factual sources are there but you're too lazy to look into them.
I also recall Null at time time repeatedly warning Kiwis on the forum and on MATI during #DropKiwiFarms saying "don't look at Twitter" (LMAO, everyone was looking at Twitter, because Null wasn't giving us answers, and Twitter was for many the only way to find out if and how to get back on the forum, because for those not Telegram the .onion address was only being posted there. I myself got the first .onion address from Twitter because I was not on Telegram at all). This is going to bite him in the ass now, because Null has no idea what was actually said by whom. I get it that he was too busy keeping the site up but Null just got the Chinese Whispers version of events. Hence the "girl-talk = troon blackmail" and the "dog hair on the shirt = troon rape" innuendo instead of actual links to sources of what was actually said.
LFJ is stroking her big tranny cock to this news.
Dude-Weed
Remarkable Onion
Again HE had it removed. All that remains is a festering wound. STOP respecting this demented faggot's delusions. It's Adam and Eve you sinful wretch!
Jimmy Hill
Remarkable Onion
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
Youthful Shannel
An Onion Among Onions
The thing that has kept Jocelyn and her Lady Lair safe thus far has been that none of his enemies felt it was worth to sue him, but thanks to his big mouth and crowd funding LFJ and her team of Jews smell blood in the water. The Jews won't destroy Josh right away, not while he still has a usebase willing to be scammed. They will keep Josh on a litigation threadmill for a few years and suck him and the kiwis dry.
Has LFJ really had the surgery? He doesn't seem like the type.
thepeaguy
Remarkable Onion
'n sumore!
Nooly Nool 'n Green Reddit jannies know NonceFigger is a kiddy creep 'n they still enable him
Yes, yes it is.
one of the previous tweets had to be redone cuz NonceFigger paedophilia is *that* extreme.
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OMG, how is this possible?! Null has reached his 800 paypigs goal?! But Pickles told me the only users left on KF are blacks, trannies and leftists who hate Null and the moderators were about to stage a mutiny:
In the meantime, LFJ and his lawyer keep sending out new subpoenas targeting more KF users. LFJ has added another 3 Kiwis to his shitlist, bringing the total of alleged "infringers" to 10 Kiwis:
None of these three users appear to have a mirroring history on Archive.is
LFJ also filed yet another bullshit Declaration signed by his "plural system" alter ego while his other alter ego was checked out:
In the meantime, LFJ and his lawyer keep sending out new subpoenas targeting more KF users. LFJ has added another 3 Kiwis to his shitlist, bringing the total of alleged "infringers" to 10 Kiwis:
None of these three users appear to have a mirroring history on Archive.is
LFJ also filed yet another bullshit Declaration signed by his "plural system" alter ego while his other alter ego was checked out:
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He's not getting personal details if his demands are challenged. So he alleges he has been harmed. What's the damage? How's he been hurt? The judge, IF she rules in his favor, is only going to order that the material be taken down and an apology be made. That's it. He's a tranny that burned his bridges with his family and employer, you really can't damage him by taking his image and posting a shopped version on a gossip forum that isn't very popular or visible. He's not profiting from this, it's just being done to fuck with Jocelyn, and xe's running with it to milk his paypiggies.
The alleged infringers can challenge this while remaining anonymous. If Wong Dong whatever publically posted the image it can be altered to mock him under Fair Use doctrine, New York Times Co. v. Sullivan is the standard here, not the DCMA. Fong Dong is copyright trolling. They should move to dismiss the DCMA claim and not file a counter-claim though. If they claim that Fong Wong is trying to use the DCMA to curtail First Amendment protected speech they stand a good chance having those subpoenas thrown into the trash.This is a sticky area of law that courts are cracking down on but since Kiwi Farmers aren't the smartest they fall for the bait.
Either way it's time for the popcorn.
The alleged infringers can challenge this while remaining anonymous. If Wong Dong whatever publically posted the image it can be altered to mock him under Fair Use doctrine, New York Times Co. v. Sullivan is the standard here, not the DCMA. Fong Dong is copyright trolling. They should move to dismiss the DCMA claim and not file a counter-claim though. If they claim that Fong Wong is trying to use the DCMA to curtail First Amendment protected speech they stand a good chance having those subpoenas thrown into the trash.This is a sticky area of law that courts are cracking down on but since Kiwi Farmers aren't the smartest they fall for the bait.
Either way it's time for the popcorn.
So I asked ChatGPT what will happen if LFJ - who is a #BeGayDoCrime extremist just like Esqueer and consistently aided, abetted and enabled tacitly condoned with the prerequisite plausble deniability phrases "totally denounced and never condoned" outright cybercriminal activity throughout #DropKiwiFarms - deliberately intentionally "accidentally" leaks the DMCAed Kiwi doxx to Hackers on Estradiol to do their worst, and here's what it said:
So, here's what I suspect Null is gonna do next: he's gonna argue that the DMCA subpoenas from LFJ are nothing more than a fishing expedition the purpose of which is to target Kiwis that appear to be outside of the US (either through VPN use or otherwise) over speech that is protected under the 1A. We know LFJ is a forum shopper who will go as far as to move abroad and claim residency in another country across the globe just to put himself in the jurisdiction of his legal target, as LFJ did when he targeted Vincent in Australia. Furthermore, the entire #DropKiwiFarms campaign was about openly intimidating Kiwis away from the forum with repeated threats of doxxing. The poz.hiv hack - that LFJ totally had nothing whatsoever to do with - included a (failed) attempt at exporting 120k KF user records. The actual target of #DropKiwiFarms was always the users, not the forum.
Maybe Natalie Tyree can file a Declaration of her own her tell the story of how #DropKiwiFarms got her fired just for being someone's wife, then openly bragged about it on Twitter and to TRA-allied journalists. Natalie was basically the proof-of-concept for what #DropKiwiFarms were hoping to do to every single KF user: get them fired/thrown out of school for being associated with a "hate-forum", then run to the media to further smear them after the fact.
I suspect this why so many of the big loudmouths at the time are so awfully quiet right now. AFAIK none of them have said anything about Null suing LFJ. I think they all understand this lolsuit has the potential to blow the lid on what they actually did under the banner of #DropKiwiFarms
1) What a DMCA subpoena actually is (and where it lives)
A DMCA subpoena (17 U.S.C. §512(h)) is a federal mechanism, typically issued through a federal court clerk to identify an alleged copyright infringer (often via an ISP or platform).
- Key implication:
Even if the dispute later ends up in New York, the subpoena itself is governed by federal law, not New York CPLR directly.
However, once enforcement or related litigation happens in New York courts, New York subpoena standards and motion-to-quash doctrine can come into play.
2) How subpoenas are quashed in New York (general rule)
New York courts apply a fairly strict standard:
A subpoena will be quashed if:
- It is not relevant or material to the case
- It is overbroad or burdensome
- It is being used as a “fishing expedition”
- It seeks privileged or protected information
- It is procedurally defective
The classic rule (from cases like People v. Gissendanner):
Note: this is a real case
People v. Gissendanner - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
A subpoena is improper if it’s just an “unrestrained foray” into records hoping to find something.
And courts explicitly reject using subpoenas as discovery tools to see what exists rather than to obtain specific, relevant evidence.
3) How this applies specifically to DMCA subpoenas
Courts are especially cautious with DMCA subpoenas because they often:
- Unmask anonymous users
- Involve First Amendment concerns
- Are sometimes abused (e.g., mass copyright trolling)
So courts often apply additional scrutiny:
Common grounds to quash DMCA subpoenas
- Lack of a valid copyright claim
- Improper purpose (harassment, intimidation, extortion)
- Failure to meet statutory requirements of §512(h)
- First Amendment balancing (anonymous speech)
- Bad faith / abusive litigation tactics
4) Can “bad faith” or threats (like leaking data) get a subpoena quashed?
Yes—this is where your question gets interesting.
While “bad faith” alone isn’t always enough, it absolutely strengthens a motion to quash, especially when combined with:
- Evidence of extortion-like behavior
- Use of subpoena for non-copyright purposes
- Threats to misuse obtained data
Courts have sanctioned similar behavior in copyright trolling cases (e.g., Prenda Law litigation), where:
Note, Prenda Law is an actual reference to a "porno-trolling collective" who were prosecuted and went to jail:
Prenda first came to prominence through the practice of identifying the IP addresses of Internet subscribers who, it claims, downloaded copyrighted pornographic videos or "hacked" into pornography-related clients. The firm would file copyright infringement lawsuits in federal court, in which it requested "up front" early discovery via "over-broad"[40]: p.5–6 subpoenas against the respective Internet service providers (ISPs),[4]: p.5 Item 11 [22]: p.2–5, 7 [41]: p.3 upon sometimes-deceptive grounds and at times with falsified signatures on key documents[4]: p.5 [41]: p.3 These discoveries were used to obtain names and addresses of hundreds or even thousands of subscribers said to be infringers or "co-conspirators" in some cases.[4]: p.5 Item 11 [22]: p.2–5, 7 [41]: p.3
Prenda Law - Wikipedia
Subpoenas were used to identify users and pressure settlements
Courts found “vexatious” and improper conduct
If someone is threatening to leak subpoenaed data, that strongly suggests:
- Improper purpose
- Abuse of process
- Potential violation of privacy laws
That can absolutely support:
- A motion to quash
- A protective order
- Sanctions against the issuer
5) Example of a subpoena being quashed (New York context)
A recent New York example (not DMCA-specific but directly relevant standard):
Millennium Consolidated Holdings v. Bluefin Capital (N.Y. Sup. Ct. 2023)
Note: this is a real case
- Court quashed a subpoena as an overbroad “fishing expedition”
- Reinforced that subpoenas cannot be used to explore for unknown evidence
Another very recent NY example:
People v. Trump (2024 subpoena ruling)
Note: this is a real case
Subpoena was quashed because:
- It failed procedural requirements
- It lacked proper justification and scope
6) Example involving anonymity / internet users (closer to DMCA context)
Not NY, but highly relevant to DMCA-style subpoenas:
Doe v. 2TheMart.com Inc.
Note: this is a real case:
Doe v. 2themart.com Inc., 140 F. Supp. 2d 1088 (2001), was a federal case decided by United States District Court for the Western District of Washington, on the issue of an individual's First Amendment right to speak anonymously on the Internet and a private party's right to disclose the identity of the anonymous Internet user by enforcing a civil subpoena. The court held that 2TheMart.com (TMRT) failed to show that the identities of these anonymous Internet users were directly and materially relevant to the core defense in the litigation, and thus the subpoena should not be issued. Therefore, Doe's motion to quash the subpoena was granted.
Doe v. 2themart.com Inc. - Wikipedia
Court quashed subpoena seeking identities of online users
Reason: no showing of direct and material relevance
This principle is widely applied in DMCA subpoena challenges.
7) Legal consequences of leaking subpoenaed sensitive data
This is where things get serious quickly.
If someone leaks sensitive data obtained via subpoena (banking info, crypto wallets, etc.), they may face:
- Civil liability
- Invasion of privacy
- Breach of confidentiality
- Negligence
- Intentional infliction of harm
- Possible GDPR violations (if EU data subjects involved)
- Court sanctions
- Contempt of court
- Monetary sanctions
- Attorney’s fees
- Case dismissal
- Criminal exposure (in extreme cases)
Depending on jurisdiction and intent:
- Identity theft statutes
- Computer misuse laws
- Fraud or extortion (if threats involved)
DMCA-specific limitation
Information obtained via a §512(h) subpoena:
Must be used only to protect copyright claims
Using it for harassment or leaking = misuse of process
8) Straight answer to your core question
Yes, DMCA subpoenas can be quashed in (or challenged with standards applied by) New York courts
Yes, bad faith—including threats to leak data—can be powerful grounds to quash
Courts look heavily at:
- relevance
- purpose
- proportionality
- constitutional concerns (speech, privacy)
Bottom line
If someone is:
Using a DMCA subpoena to unmask users
AND threatening to leak their financial data
That’s not just weak—it’s dangerous for them legally.
You’re looking at:
- Strong grounds to quash
- Potential sanctions
- Possible independent liability
So, here's what I suspect Null is gonna do next: he's gonna argue that the DMCA subpoenas from LFJ are nothing more than a fishing expedition the purpose of which is to target Kiwis that appear to be outside of the US (either through VPN use or otherwise) over speech that is protected under the 1A. We know LFJ is a forum shopper who will go as far as to move abroad and claim residency in another country across the globe just to put himself in the jurisdiction of his legal target, as LFJ did when he targeted Vincent in Australia. Furthermore, the entire #DropKiwiFarms campaign was about openly intimidating Kiwis away from the forum with repeated threats of doxxing. The poz.hiv hack - that LFJ totally had nothing whatsoever to do with - included a (failed) attempt at exporting 120k KF user records. The actual target of #DropKiwiFarms was always the users, not the forum.
Maybe Natalie Tyree can file a Declaration of her own her tell the story of how #DropKiwiFarms got her fired just for being someone's wife, then openly bragged about it on Twitter and to TRA-allied journalists. Natalie was basically the proof-of-concept for what #DropKiwiFarms were hoping to do to every single KF user: get them fired/thrown out of school for being associated with a "hate-forum", then run to the media to further smear them after the fact.
I suspect this why so many of the big loudmouths at the time are so awfully quiet right now. AFAIK none of them have said anything about Null suing LFJ. I think they all understand this lolsuit has the potential to blow the lid on what they actually did under the banner of #DropKiwiFarms
Dude-Weed
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Well Im not going to inspect LFJ to make sure lol.
Dude-Weed
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Chat GPT is woke why waste your time using it?
Dude-Weed
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Come on man there is no way there is 120k users of the site!
Josh Tries It: getting involved in British politics.
Kiwismarms
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Is Null trying to do a Trump? Slag off allies and call them useless then cry for help from them when he needs it?
Fuck off, Null.
Fuck off, Null.
Kiwi Pot Pie
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Both are obese narcissist pedophile conmen who turned into staunch Zionists because that is where the money was. Both of them have an intense cult of personality who does not care how Dear Leader (this started as a joke with Josh but is unironically true now) changes his beliefs.
Ironically, the main difference is that Trump moved pro-pedophile with his months of damage control over Epstein and recent support for child sex changes (in stark contrast to his campaign rhetoric about "releasing the Epstein files") while Null has moved anti-pedophile since he now believes all anime is inherently sexual and pedophilia and wants it banned (in stark contrast to his "free speech absolutist" position). What a shame that Trump was once upon a time charismatic, even if you didn't agree with him, and Null was always a black hole of charisma, otherwise Josh Moon would be GOP presidential material!
Kiwismarms
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Null tweeted something like "You can rape as many kids as you want, just deport the indians". He is pro-peado and anti-gettingcaughttouchingkids.
Very true. Trump 45 was a good, peaceful, president.