In this Oct 21st, 2022 tweet Sinseer included an screenshot excerpt from a presumably much longer e-mail by an unnamed participant in #DropKiwiFarms
I personally assume it was written by Liz Fong Jones himself, judging from the style of writing, but I have no way to prove this and I could be wrong. It could've been written by Esqueer, or Keffals, or Sinseer himself, or anyone else who was part of the campaign.
The e-mail is written is a weird passive tense to cover-up who was doing what to whom, to make it seem like shit was "just happening" on its own with no one driving it, but reading the message line-by-line it becomes clear what actually happened here: someone in #DropKiwiFarms got a woman named Natalie fired at a company called Century 21, and whoever wrote this letter (who is writing in a manner to make it seem like they personally aren't the person who got Natalie fired) is justifying it saying Natalie deserved it because "Null targets families".
Quoting from the excerpt:
Josh targets families, and his victims are known, sometimes to do the same.
This refers to the fact that lolcows will sometimes retaliate by targeting the families of either Kiwis, or by targeting Null's own family members. We know this is a fact, f.e. with Greta Gustava. Fun fact, LFJ himself first got involved with KF because of the whole TransLifeLine thing. That's literally how far back this vendetta goes. LFJ sided with TLL regarding the $ 350k wasted by them on personal expenses, for which Greta et al were never held accountable. That's how this whole saga actually started and how LFJ originally earned himself a thread on KF. As you can see, in this post too Null describes Liz Fong Jones as someone who
"harasses the families of CEOs who run T1 ISPs to try and remove the Kiwi Farms from the internet to this day.".
I do not condone such behaviour, but that's the nature of his business. Lie down with dogs, wake up with flees.
After issuing a perfunctory disclaimer to misdirect, whoever wrote this message obviously does condone lolcows doing after Null's or Kiwis' families, and specifically the targeting of this woman Natalie.
Plus, facilitating a literal, avowed and observed child stalking site is a quick route to unemployability and pariah business status.
Whoever wrote this thinks that anyone "facilitating" KiwiFarms in any shape or form deserves to lose their job and be delegated to "pariah business status". The end goal of #DropKiwiFarms was not just to censor the forum but always the life ruination of anyone associated in any way with KF, even if they are two degrees removed.
I have copied a number of interested parties who may wish to write their own article about this
Whoever wrote this e-mail CCed it to Taylor Lorenz, Erin Reed and Kat Tenbarge. Only half joking.
as it is quite ironic for Natalie [Tyree] to be complaining about online content. Her page has now been removed from the Century 21 website. She was indeed fired.
The "Natalie" referred to here is the wife of Rob Tyree of Fiberhub. Natalie was working at Century 21 and was apparently fired due to #DropKiwiFarms harassing her employer about her husband providing services to KiwiFarms. "Her page has now been removed" probably refers to her company profile at the Century 21 website being removed after she got fired.
Whoever wrote this e-mail was gloating to the other members of #DKF about "someone" getting Natalie fired, insisting (to deflect) that they don't condone targeting family members, except they totally do and this is an example of them doing just that.
Sinseer responds to this excerpt in his tweet specifically stating it's about Natalie Tyree:
And to be clear, Rob Tyree's wife, the CFO of Fiberhub, seems to have been fired because of her involvement hosting KiwiFarms, a doxing and swating neo-nazi hate site. It was Century 21, according to this e-mail BBC'ed to some people in #DropKiwiFarms.
So there you go, this AFAIK is all the public evidence that was available at the time for the alleged "girl-talk" between Liz Fong Jones and Natalie Tyree. I personally have seen no evidence of LFJ directly communicating with Natalie, AFAIK there is no recording of a phonecall or a screenshot of a DM or something conclusive like that. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if LFJ or anyone else in #DropKiwiFarms had decided to contact Natalie themselves first to emotionally blackmail her, and only decided to start mail-bombing Century 21 after Natalie presumably told #DropKiwiFarms to fuck off. I don't know if Null himself has spoken to Natalie about this incident and if it was Natalie herself that told Null LFJ had contacted her.
Anyways, we know who this woman is and what her name is, so presumably, if necessary, Null can subpoena Natalie Tyree to take the stand to answer questions about getting fired due to #DropKiwiFarms harassing Century 21 about her husband going business with KF.
I would really appreciate it if Null would just respond to Kiwis in the MATI thread by link to all this shit instead of just alluding to it like it's some kind of vague innuendo that only the most dedicated MATI listeners knowing the deep lore about. I bet most Kiwis have never actually seen any of this shit and are seeing it for the first time if they're lurking here.
Hearing Null on MATI saying Asmongold should talk to him because he will package this up for him nice and neat, no dude, you never link or refer to primary sources. Everything is innuendo with you, and you're not helping your case when the actual factual sources are there but you're too lazy to look into them.
I also recall Null at time time repeatedly warning Kiwis on the forum and on MATI during #DropKiwiFarms saying "don't look at Twitter" (LMAO, everyone was looking at Twitter, because Null wasn't giving us answers, and Twitter was for many the only way to find out if and how to get back on the forum, because for those not Telegram the .onion address was only being posted there. I myself got the first .onion address from Twitter because I was not on Telegram at all). This is going to bite him in the ass now, because Null has no idea what was actually said by whom. I get it that he was too busy keeping the site up but Null just got the Chinese Whispers version of events. Hence the "girl-talk = troon blackmail" and the "dog hair on the shirt = troon rape" innuendo instead of actual links to sources of what was actually said.