Null 🥝 Joshua Moon Megathread

[Lunar Magma]

Tbh I want to see Josh try to defend himself, But according to the data so far it looks to me that he couldn't even survive a trip to Riker's Island let alone a physical slap fight with troons.

If someone assaulted Moon, it wouldn't go great for either side. Moon is a paranoid pussy who bought multiple guns for the sole purpose of defending himself because he's a short fat weakling. He would pull out his handgun and try to murder you if anyone touched him. Then he would hire a lawyer that would be justify why you deserved to die for looking at Moon the wrong way.

Josh is definitely the type of guy to initially try to provoke someone to a fist fight only to pull out a glock and shoot them.

Josh thought a black guy aggressively trying to make a white guy apologize because he thought he said "nigger" meant that the white guy had full authority to just mag-dump the black guy in the middle of the street, because Josh felt threatened. If anyone doubts this, go back and listen to him a couple streams ago when he's watching a video of white guy in Japan confronted by a black guy. I've got it timestamped on a previous MATI post.

No, it is the correct action FOR JOSH. Not for Kiwis and definitely not for free speech. Josh filed a lawsuit to stop a tranny from censoring Kiwi Farms, and now has gone above and beyond by locking the tranny's thread, stopping not just the allegedly infringing content but ANY AND ALL discussion and mockery of LFJ.

This cannot be emphasized enough. Josh has almost completely capitulated to LFJ. If he just deletes that funny edit of that freak, LFJ would be content with the result. Remember, he filed the lawsuit in hopes he could get a precedent going to censor his own thread and maybe even take it down entirely. And now Josh has made one giant leap in LFJ's favor by doing just that.

What's the matter, Josh? You suddenly think your userbase does not deserve the right to make fun of your own nemesis, just because they might (if they post a single stupid thing) incur the penalty of being legally doxed if you and them fail at fighting it in court?

>If I was to literally implement the DMCA as it was written, LFJ would be able to doxx every single user on the KF or censor any post he wanted.
Josh said this on a recent stream. The part about LFJ being able to doxx every single user, is not true. That's a lie. LFJ can doxx only the users being subpoenaed. But he says this to grift. Because Josh doesn't want to tell you that only 0.175% people on KF will be affected by this. How do we arrive at this number? Let's assume there are 4,000 KF'ers, which is already a generous estimation. 7 users subpoenaed / 4,000 x 100 = 0.175%. It's not even 1% of KF. Or 0.5% of KF. It's just 0.2% rounded up. Josh has to fear-monger and make a mountain out of a molehill because that will line his pockets with paypiggie cash. If he told the truth, that this whole LFJ lawsuit is a giant nothingburger, no one would donate. This is a grift. Josh may as well be in bed with LFJ at this point. Because removing a post or two about a person is a nonissue and the sort of thing Josh does anyway, whenever he wants. Josh only has an issue with this because someone else is compelling him to do it. His ODD is riled up. Otherwise, it's a perfectly normal action that he does every day on his site. He's perfectly fine with censoring your speech on a normal basis.

LFJ right now is outsmarting Josh and has Josh is a binary, lose-lose scenario. Where LFJ's getting to censor his own thread AND getting to doxx KF'ers. It should be he only gets one option of the two but Josh caved in and gave him the other option as well. So LFJ gets both! This is kinda like in chess, where if you move a knight, the queen is gonna take him out but your only other option on the board is to move your rook and then a bishop will take him out. But you're forced to take one of these options where you're losing.

Now, having said that, if I was running a forum and getting sued by LFJ, the first thing I would do is lock down all content about LFJ and remove users' abilities to even get subpoenaed by the tranny. Similar to how if a child is about to run into the road, you yank them back out of harm's way because they cannot help themselves. Or if they are about pet a big dog like a pit bull, I'm yanking that child back. Or if they wander into the kitchen and we've got boiling hot water splashing, I'm booting the kid out of the room while the cooks are in the kitchen. It's simply for your own good. Yes, it's true your free speech and autonomy is being violated by me. But in this scenario, it's my website and I'm the head honcho. And I'm making an executive decision that it's just not worth you being able to shit-talk some tranny online on my forum when he's setting traps for you to ruin your life by doing so. I'm going to be paternalistic about it and stop you from being able to hurt yourself on my site. What you do off-site is up to you if you wanna go get sued on X while you trash LFJ. But if you disobey my orders, I'm deleting your posts about LFJ and may even give you a couple days ban to think about it. Because let's be real. You not being able to trash one particular tranny online on a particular site, is a complete nothingburger. On a list of things we can talk about or that we want to talk about, bashing LFJ is like #200 on my list.

Hasn’t he admitted to carrying one in order to feel safe? He is a mentally ill man who should not be allowed to own guns.

Josh is more likely to commit suicide with his guns than successfully defend himself. He's the type of person who should not be a gun owner.

It's not about them, they are just a means to an end. I also suspect that LFJ's ultimate goal has nothing to do with copyrights and everything to do with punishing and intimidating all the other Kiwis who have been regulars in his thread. Like I posted above, a couple of the alleged "infringers" have Archive.is mirrors going back years, especially Sexy Senior's going back to 2022, which is an indication that someone (I obviously suspect LFJ himself but I obviously can't prove that) has been monitoring those user accounts for that long.

The fact that some of the users now targeted by the subpoena appear to be British to me suggests that LFJ might been ethnically profiling the regulars in his thread to distinguish Americans from Brits, knowing that Americans are 1A protected whereas Brits can be prosecuted in their own country over Hasspostings. I believe that's the long-game here. LFJ has obviously seen the videos on social media of Brits getting a knock on the door from the British police over memes, and he must've gotten very inspired by all that State repression that he as a leftist is supposedly so against. LFJ knows that Brits come to KF to say things they can't say in the UK, because Europe is still in the dark ages when it comes to freedom of speech protections.

I bet you: if LFJ gets the doxx and it turns out the infringers were Americans who were location-LARPing with VPNs and British grammar, LFJ likely won't even do anything to them (or he'll give it to "get hacked" by his personal friends and DKF co-conspirators Hackers on Estradiol, who will leak the Kiwi doxx and let the raping of nature take its course). But if my theory is right and some of these users do turn out to be British nationals or residents, LFJ will just ignore the American "infringers" (cos there is nothing he can do about those) and only go after the British ones as the most opportune legal targets. I suspect it's a combination ethnic profiling and forum shopping.

Make no mistake, Null might exploit this too, he might try to protect American Kiwis by setting up legal fundraisers for them and promoting them on KF or helping them get 1A lawyers behind the scenes (I bet Hardin by now knows every 1A lawyer anywhere in the US on a first name basis), but he might have to tell the British Kiwis, look blokes, there is nothing I can do for you if you're outside of the US, you're on your own now. I cannot help you legally because I, as an "US legal website", cannot afford to have legal forum contact with the UK, because what would open me to British lolsuits, etc.



I had a look at that picture that LFJ claims is copyrighted and it doesn't even look like a regular, professional, corporate head-shot by a pro photographer using lighting or angles, like the one you'd put on top of a resume if they wanted to see your face before inviting you. To me, it looks like a selfie in the park with garish colour saturation and a lens-flare added. If I had seen that picture as a stand-alone pic on social media not knowing who the subject was, nothing about it would've indicated to me that this was a professional head-shot that was worth copyrighting. It's looks unprofessional and pedestrian enough to not look copyrighted. It doesn't even have a visible copyright notice at the bottom. It's possible it had a copyright watermark embedded in the image itself (and how would one know this if they just screenshot it as a Bsky embed?), or a copyright notice as a subscript on LinkedIn, I don't know. I'm not gonna go to his LinkedIn to check, I don't want to have mine associated with his in any shape or form. (If anyone here has a LinkedIn sock, feel free to check if it's watermarked, here's how to do it). But prima facie it doesn't look to me like a copyrighted image. The LCF Nonnas describing it as a "trap" was a good description.

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Clearly you don't know what the fuck you're on about. The GDPR doesn't mean an American website gets to destroy evidence at the request of a European user after having received a discovery subpoena, that is preposterous. Why do you think that, whenever you delete your account on a mainstream social media platform (Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, you name it) they don't actually truly delete your account but merely make it invisible on their outward facing server, while retaining a full copy of the account and all log-on information on their internal servers? Because there is no real DFE on social media sites, and KF is not different.

If Null was logging account data like IP addresses before the lolsuit, he is legally obliged the moment he gets subpoenaed to preserve anything listed in the subpoena as discoverable. Are gonna go and read the subpoena to see what's actually requested of him, or are you just gonna continue pulling this bullshit out of your ass? If Null were to delete his log files right now post hoc being served the subpoena, that constitutes the intentional destruction of potential evidence, and he'd be in big trouble legally.

Again dumbass, go and read the fucking legal documents before running your mouth here like an idiot. Null is the one suing Liz Fong Jones, not the other way around. Null is the plaintiff, not the defendant. LFJ has to defend himself. LFJ sent that subpoena in order to sidestep his defense, after getting permission to delay it by 3+months, which was clearly just a gurldique move to get the subpoena out before he has even defended himself against Null's claim that his DMCA take-down request was in bad faith.


And he rightly told your dumb ass to fuck off, because you were literally asking him to delete discoverable evidence.
Just STFU about this lolsuit if you don't even understand who's suing who or what the rules are for preserving evidence during a lolsuit.
Again, the GDPR is not an excuse to delete discoverable evidence like log files with IP addresses after receiving a subpoena.
If Null was already in the habit of deleting IP addresses on a session-by-session basis BEFORE the subpoena, that would've been different.
But, like I wrote about, I suspected on the basis of other incidents on the forum that Null was logging IP addresses. Hence the constant hammering on using VPNs to access KF.

I think one of Josh's problems is that over the years, he has banned or driven away a lot of the smarter users. So what is left on the Farms surrounding him are complacent "yes-men" ball-washers that only look to serve Moon and reflect what he says to them back to him for asspats and upvotes. People only interested in building false parasocial relationships with streamer-daddy. So that means Josh has no valid pushback or smart advisors. Even someone like Hardin is under this category because he's on Josh's side and has to square with the stupid stuff Josh says and does. It's really hard to believe, the KF'ers were looking at that LFJ lawsuit-bait pic and no one pushed back and said "Don't post that pic. Here's why." Well I guess that's what you deserve when your shitty site only selects for pure conformity and docile obedience to a king bitch and gaggle of little bitches behind him carrying his robes so they don't touch the ground and get dirty. Josh selected for a personality cult echochamber where he can't be criticized and now he's suffering from the result.

 

[Sukon_Madik_Fuker]

It's not about them, they are just a means to an end. I also suspect that LFJ's ultimate goal has nothing to do with copyrights and everything to do with punishing and intimidating all the other Kiwis who have been regulars in his thread. Like I posted above, a couple of the alleged "infringers" have Archive.is mirrors going back years, especially Sexy Senior's going back to 2022, which is an indication that someone (I obviously suspect LFJ himself but I obviously can't prove that) has been monitoring those user accounts for that long.

The fact that some of the users now targeted by the subpoena appear to be British to me suggests that LFJ might been ethnically profiling the regulars in his thread to distinguish Americans from Brits, knowing that Americans are 1A protected whereas Brits can be prosecuted in their own country over Hasspostings. I believe that's the long-game here. LFJ has obviously seen the videos on social media of Brits getting a knock on the door from the British police over memes, and he must've gotten very inspired by all that State repression that he as a leftist is supposedly so against. LFJ knows that Brits come to KF to say things they can't say in the UK, because Europe is still in the dark ages when it comes to freedom of speech protections.

I bet you: if LFJ gets the doxx and it turns out the infringers were Americans who were location-LARPing with VPNs and British grammar, LFJ likely won't even do anything to them (or he'll give it to "get hacked" by his personal friends and DKF co-conspirators Hackers on Estradiol, who will leak the Kiwi doxx and let the raping of nature take its course). But if my theory is right and some of these users do turn out to be British nationals or residents, LFJ will just ignore the American "infringers" (cos there is nothing he can do about those) and only go after the British ones as the most opportune legal targets. I suspect it's a combination ethnic profiling and forum shopping.

Make no mistake, Null might exploit this too, he might try to protect American Kiwis by setting up legal fundraisers for them and promoting them on KF or helping them get 1A lawyers behind the scenes (I bet Hardin by now knows every 1A lawyer anywhere in the US on a first name basis), but he might have to tell the British Kiwis, look blokes, there is nothing I can do for you if you're outside of the US, you're on your own now. I cannot help you legally because I, as an "US legal website", cannot afford to have legal forum contact with the UK, because what would open me to British lolsuits, etc.



I had a look at that picture that LFJ claims is copyrighted and it doesn't even look like a regular, professional, corporate head-shot by a pro photographer using lighting or angles, like the one you'd put on top of a resume if they wanted to see your face before inviting you. To me, it looks like a selfie in the park with garish colour saturation and a lens-flare added. If I had seen that picture as a stand-alone pic on social media not knowing who the subject was, nothing about it would've indicated to me that this was a professional head-shot that was worth copyrighting. It's looks unprofessional and pedestrian enough to not look copyrighted. It doesn't even have a visible copyright notice at the bottom. It's possible it had a copyright watermark embedded in the image itself (and how would one know this if they just screenshot it as a Bsky embed?), or a copyright notice as a subscript on LinkedIn, I don't know. I'm not gonna go to his LinkedIn to check, I don't want to have mine associated with his in any shape or form. (If anyone here has a LinkedIn sock, feel free to check if it's watermarked, here's how to do it). But prima facie it doesn't look to me like a copyrighted image. The LCF Nonnas describing it as a "trap" was a good description.

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Clearly you don't know what the fuck you're on about. The GDPR doesn't mean an American website gets to destroy evidence at the request of a European user after having received a discovery subpoena, that is preposterous. Why do you think that, whenever you delete your account on a mainstream social media platform (Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, you name it) they don't actually truly delete your account but merely make it invisible on their outward facing server, while retaining a full copy of the account and all log-on information on their internal servers? Because there is no real DFE on social media sites, and KF is not different.

If Null was logging account data like IP addresses before the lolsuit, he is legally obliged the moment he gets subpoenaed to preserve anything listed in the subpoena as discoverable. Are gonna go and read the subpoena to see what's actually requested of him, or are you just gonna continue pulling this bullshit out of your ass? If Null were to delete his log files right now post hoc being served the subpoena, that constitutes the intentional destruction of potential evidence, and he'd be in big trouble legally.

Again dumbass, go and read the fucking legal documents before running your mouth here like an idiot. Null is the one suing Liz Fong Jones, not the other way around. Null is the plaintiff, not the defendant. LFJ has to defend himself. LFJ sent that subpoena in order to sidestep his defense, after getting permission to delay it by 3+months, which was clearly just a gurldique move to get the subpoena out before he has even defended himself against Null's claim that his DMCA take-down request was in bad faith.


And he rightly told your dumb ass to fuck off, because you were literally asking him to delete discoverable evidence.
Just STFU about this lolsuit if you don't even understand who's suing who or what the rules are for preserving evidence during a lolsuit.
Again, the GDPR is not an excuse to delete discoverable evidence like log files with IP addresses after receiving a subpoena.
If Null was already in the habit of deleting IP addresses on a session-by-session basis BEFORE the subpoena, that would've been different.
But, like I wrote about, I suspected on the basis of other incidents on the forum that Null was logging IP addresses. Hence the constant hammering on using VPNs to access KF.

Let me know when your done sucking off Jocelyn then we'll talk like men.

 

[Kiwi Pot Pie]

Now, having said that, if I was running a forum and getting sued by LFJ, the first thing I would do is lock down all content about LFJ and remove users' abilities to even get subpoenaed by the tranny.

Oh, I agree. Letting a tranny take legal action against users for the hell of it because they are too stupid to realize the very real threat it poses is bad for the forum. Why, it might make users think twice about wasting time shitposting on Kiwi Farms and might result in users feeling very annoyed by Josh in the event he loses the motion to deny the subpoena. And that might mean less donations!

 

[thepeaguy]

What exactly is new for people to examine about Josh? Everything new that he does is picked through pretty thoroughly on this board.

Static silence from @The Gays From LA is pretty telling, id say.

OK, I'm blocking you now because, for the last time: YOU CANNOT DELETE IP LOGS AFTER YOU'VE BEEN SERVED A SUBPOENA STIPULATING THE POTENTIAL EVIDENCE THAT MUST BE RETAINED. If Null was already deleting IP logs in principle before the subpoena, that would be different (if you had actually read the subpoena, you'd know that it stipulates what to do in that case, but you obvioulsy haven't read shit), but he already admitted in other threads in response to other incidents that he retains user IP logs, hence the constant hammering on KF about using a VPN to log in. Contrary to your bullshit claims, the GDPR is not an excuse to destroy evidence after the fact.

Go and actually READ the fucking subpoena, READ what's actually demanded of Null, otherwise just STFU and admit you don't understand what this lolsuit is about or what is actually at stake here.

lol calm down

 

[thefrogninja]

I had a look at that picture that LFJ claims is copyrighted and it doesn't even look like a regular, professional, corporate head-shot by a pro photographer using lighting or angles, like the one you'd put on top of a resume if they wanted to see your face before inviting you. To me, it looks like a selfie in the park with garish colour saturation and a lens-flare added. If I had seen that picture as a stand-alone pic on social media not knowing who the subject was, nothing about it would've indicated to me that this was a professional head-shot that was worth copyrighting.

It is my understanding that pictures taken are automatically copyrighted to whoever the photographer was. If the photographer was LFJ, then she should own the copyright.