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[Boobie Bomb]

The fuck did I just read?

 

[Boobie Bomb]

Then the Lolicons are winning because yesterday on Halloween (I think) the European Union scrapped their plans to enact Chat Control for social media.

Chat Control was a proposal by the EU to scan for CSAM and other content deemed illegal under EU relations. However, while privacy advocates and human rights advocates know that the EU means well, they criticized the proposal over privacy and humans rights concerns by stating that this may give some EU member states more authoritarian power to police speech on the Internet in Europe (similar to what we saw with the disaster known as the UK Online Safety Act).

So for the moment, Chat Control is now dead in the EU with privacy and humans rights groups celebrating the EU scrapping the proposal.

The EU saved their tech industry while the UK is killing theirs. Honestly, the shit Kiwi Farms wants for the Internet is only going to ruin the Internet; this includes ironically ruining Kiwi Farms should the Kiwis have their way in policing the Internet.

I still remember this post from Newgrounds.

 

[Just a User]

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The fuck did I just read?

This moron is exactly the kind of person they're looking, what on god's green ass earth, is that post he just made, you'd think with this he'd taken drugs when making that shit.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

I still remember this post from Newgrounds.

The Kids Online Safety Act got scrapped last year because the House GOP didn't supported it (Mike Johnson agreed with the spirit of the bill but he decided not to support it on the count that the proposed bill granted state AGs the power to police speech on the Internet and this includes political speech; Mike Johnson and the House GOP didn't liked this so KOSA died last year because of that).

Some states have tried to pass their own version of KOSA but they got struck down as unconstitutional citing First Amendment concerns.

Probably the most recent thing that happened on why we probably won't see age verification on a federal level for the rest of the Internet is the Trump administration heavily criticizing the UK Online Safety Act where the UK is using this new law to crack down on political dissent.

I get the feeling the only people that really pushing for age verification on the Internet for America are paid Russian shills (because Trump and Putin hate each other now), Chinese spies, and Indians that seek to destroy America's dominance on tech. We've already seen the damage caused by the UK Online Safety Act where the UK's tech industry has been damaged over this stupid law (with some UK tech firms really considering moving out of the UK and want move to America now because America is more business friendly unlike the UK) and I assume the people that really want age verification for the Internet in America only want this to destroy America's tech industry and let countries like China, Russia, Iran, and India take the lead.

I strongly believe the people that really want age verification for the Internet in America are not Americans being concerned over kids on the Internet but most likely foreign threat actors that will do anything to subvert America and destroy America's dominance over the world. If this is the case then Kiwi Farms got duped by the foreign psyops like the useful idiots that they are.

"You Are Not Immune to Propaganda"

 

[ipreferpickles]

I think Null is just mad the loli Vtubers are more popular than him, same with the incel streamers like Fuentes becoming bigger than him, so he's trying to take down as many as he can. Null is in his mid-30's and is running off of pure spite, that's why he keeps cheering on Trump's dumbest actions despite most of his mod team openly saying how bad Trump is and openly criticizing Null for it.

 

[Obscenity2022]

The difference is that outside of KF, the Sharty, and a few terminally online grifters and rightoids, nobody really gives a shit about lolicon. People actually cared about video games journalism because their articles put pressure on video game companies to censor and alter their games. By contrast, almost nobody involved in the lolicon wars has children. Null (who is 5'4") has no children. Welperhelper99 (who wants to get fucked in the ass by trannies) has no children. Notorietus (a literal Mexican) has no children. Sprate Header has no children. LavenderMenace (who writes poorly written self-insert erotic novels) has no children. PPP (groomer) has no children. Warski (also a groomer) aborted all his children. The soyteens are literally children. Nux Taku, Shondo, Templar, Synthetic Man, Flamenco, etc... have no children

thats actually a great point, beyond that is that none of them remember the pre-trump era when conservatives such as Rick Santorum were also on the anti-anime train because if they did they'd remember how cringe and non-starting this whole anti-anime take is.

And that was a dozen years ago, its even less of a nonstarter now when the biggest halloween costumes were from a netflix anime and a majority of people watch anime and its the only genre of movies that make any money now too.

Null if he was born a decade earlier would be Jack Thompson level "fuck video games" and if we're more honestly probably already is but at least understands how bad that take would be

“We want ethics in anime pornography”

great point, like if we're being more honest i bet most of them just hate anime in general and this is just a great wedge issue, if it was regular hentai they wouldn't be like oh-ok. in general Null and co hate sexualized women in any media, which means a big hate boner for anime. its like the tranny issue, the people hating trannies just want them executed, no matter if they're kids or whatever.

I think Null is just mad the loli Vtubers are more popular than him, same with the incel streamers like Fuentes becoming bigger than him, so he's trying to take down as many as he can. Null is in his mid-30's and is running off of pure spite, that's why he keeps cheering on Trump's dumbest actions despite most of his mod team openly saying how bad Trump is and openly criticizing Null for it.

another great point. Null and welper and other right wingers online just want people to suffer. they try and hide it but that's all this is about. they attack certain groups them deem acceptable but would go after everyone. its like how Johnny Bravo accuses everyone of being a pedo if they disagree with him. its not about fair debates or morals they just want to hurt people and finding acceptable targets for it.

 

[Joshua Conner Moon]

>it's da LOLICONS
when exactly did kf become so obsessed with anime character moralfagging again?

 

[Obscenity2022]

>it's da LOLICONS
when exactly did kf become so obsessed with anime character moralfagging again?

i do love how obvious it is too. pretty sure Null said k-pop demon slayers was going to lead to children being raped or something insane like that. its just simple hatred of all things cartoon. its pretty fucking ironic too considering his favorite animators and every guest he's had on MATI are huge weebs. Null and his faggy fanbase are the only ones under 40 hating anime. even JD vance admitted to enjoying Dragon ball z when he was younger

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

I'm willing to bet five bucks that Kiwi Farms will probably promote the idea that Lolicon was invented by the Jews and this is some plot by Israel to control the West even though this is a genre of entertainment that strictly belongs to the Japanese.

Unless Kiwi Farms wants to make the argument that the Japanese are cryptojews or something.

 

[Fulgur Manifestation]

Null is playing a dangerous game for being the internet pariah and having a history of loving shota and being a creep in Blockland forums. He can't not know that his enemies employ cancel culture, with Keffals and Liz Fong Jones as an example. Is this what he really wants, to have something blow up in his face?

 

[Obscenity2022]

Null is playing a dangerous game for being the internet pariah and having a history of loving shota and being a creep in Blockland forums. He can't not know that his enemies employ cancel culture, with Keffals and Liz Fong Jones as an example. Is this what he really wants, to have something blow up in his face?

he doesn't give a fuck anymore. all the oldfags seem to just take kiwifarms as a Resetera for the right wing now and its relevance quickly dying as it really doesn't have new lolcows to talk about and its old ones are being less relevant.

kiwifarms is taking Fuentes being king of Instagram's right wing very hard because it basically proves all their doxing and humilating of people won't stop them from going viral because of some clip with "smells like teen spirit" in the background

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

Me as an Internet oldfag that has seen many things on the Internet, I'm sure everyone that is as old as I am probably remembers the Rules of the Internet.

Some of the rules include:
Rule 1: Do not talk about /b/.
Rule 2: Do NOT talk about /b/.
Rule 14: Do not argue with trolls - it means that they win.
Rules 22 and 23: Copypasta is made to ruin every last bit of originality.
Rule 26: Any topic can be easily turned into something totally unrelated.
Rule 34: There is porn of it - no exceptions.
Rule 46: There is always furry porn of it.
Rule 48: The pool is closed.

You probably remember seeing some of these back in the day when 4chan was more relevant.

But there is one rule that Kiwi Farms seem to have forgotten about a long time ago.

Rule 19: The more you hate something, the stronger it gets.

As the saying goes, all publicity is good publicity. No matter how controversial that someone or something seems, the more you give attention to that person or thing (be it positive or negative) then it gets stronger.

Nick Fuentes is a controversial figure, nobody likes him and this includes even the GOP finding Nick Fuentes to be objectionable. However, Nick Fuentes still remains the de facto leader of the Dissident Right. Unless Nick Fuentes finds himself being involved in a serious crime, nothing is going to remove Nick Fuentes from being the default leader of America's Far-Right. The gay Mexican Catboy is likely going to continue being the leader of the American Far-Right the longer people keeps giving him the attention he wants.

It's the same with Lolicon. The Japanese genre of Lolicon is a controversial genre of anime and manga due to this genre of Japanese entertainment exploring the topic of child sexual abuse. But why isn't the genre of Lolicon going away anytime soon? Because people keep talking about it. The more you keep talking about it, the stronger it gets.

The more you hate something, the stronger it gets.

Want Nick Fuentes and his groypers to go away? Stop talking about them.

Want Lolicon to become irrelevant? Stop talking about it.

Something is only truly dead when everyone collectively stops talking about it. Back in the day, Ragecomics were the biggest meme on the Internet and now no one talks about them anymore because everyone on the Internet have collectively stopped talking about Ragecomics. The Ragecomics meme is now officially dead.

You'd think someone as old as Jersh would understand this because he's been on the Internet longer than most Kiwis but nope, Jersh is committing every carnal sin when it comes to the Internet these days.

 

[Obscenity2022]

Rule 19: The more you hate something, the stronger it gets.

they knew this back before this era, like a-logging used to get called out a lot, its a big reason people used to hate PPP, he didn't hide behind laughter like kiwifarms did from 2013-2022.

ut nope, Jersh is committing every carnal sin when it comes to the Internet these days.

as you see from his twitter interactions, he's still the angry fatboy that he was a decade ago. him revealing his diet habits was just a notch above chris-chan in terms of oversharing. if he didn't own kiwifarms he'd be owned by kiwifarms. he used to admit to not being able to take what kiwifarms dished out. he's still a faggot.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

they knew this back before this era, like a-logging used to get called out a lot, its a big reason people used to hate PPP, he didn't hide behind laughter like kiwifarms did from 2013-2022.

I'm going to sperg out here a bit but here goes.

If anyone here is into the SCP Foundation universe (or used to be), there is an entity in the SCP universe known as the Scarlet King.

So who is the Scarlet King? He is an apocalyptic entity that is able to destroy universes. No amount of brute force is going to defeat him. He is ridiculously overpowered and no amount of brute force or magic or anything supernatural can stop him. But like any powerful being, the Scarlet King does have only one known weakness and that weakness is being forgotten.

In order for the Scarlet King to invade your universe and reek havoc, you have to acknowledge his existence. The more people that acknowledge his existence, the closer he gets to your universe for him to unleash his violent apocalyptic wrath. The only known way to defeat the Scarlet King is to not acknowledge him at all. Ignore the Scarlet King, shun him, forget about him, and dismisses him as only part of the wild imagination of some skitzo. By not acknowledging the Scarlet King means your universe is spared from his wrath and you get to live to see another day.

So when I see Kiwi Farms bitch about Lolicon or Furry Porn or Nick Fuentes, they don't seem to realize they're making them stronger by giving more attention to them.

The greatest strength for the Lolicon genre is acknowledgement. The more people acknowledge it then the longer it will continue to be alive. Lolicon will only truly die when the last person on Earth that acknowledges it is no more.

Kiwi Farms tried to shame the furries over their production of furry porn but this only lead to the normalization and acceptance of furry porn as furry porn has become normie content now. It looks like Kiwi Farms is about to do the exact same thing where their attempts to shame the anime community over Lolicon will most likely lead to its normalization and acceptance simply because the Kiwis think Lolicon is more important than world hunger.

 

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Thing is you are actually a reasonable person. Kiwiniggers are unreasonable a-logs.

Why thank you

If you ask me, the Lolicon community are laughable lolcows but I consider them F-Tier lolcows that are not really worthy anyone's time 9 times out of 10. Why? Because I consider the Lolicons to be a very boring kind of lolcow.

I agree with this. I call them “loopcows”. Lolcows where they’re incredibly unfunny cause they just do the same shit over and over again that’s gotten very old. Think Mylar.

Let me explain. 10 years ago, Kiwi Farms and other troll communities moralfaged over furry porn. Often furry porn involved the themes of bestiality and as cringe as this is, as the furry community gotten bigger and bigger this is no longer something you can use to mess with the furry community anymore because the furry community stopped caring that people know they enjoy furry porn a long time ago. So even trolls kinda stopped making fun of furries for making furry porn not because online trolls had a change of heart but because making fun of furry porn got boring, especially as now and days furry porn is considered a normie form of porn now. Furries are gooners but they're also a generic type of gooner. Do you see where I'm getting at here?

It’s funny cause some people STILL care and STILL bitch and moan about it. The other day I saw a Kiwifarmer who unironically had the anti-fur flag as their pfp. There’s even some YouTubers who make these furry cringe comp videos and end it with “5,000 likes and I’ll go to a con!”.
Honestly, say what you will about furries, but I always feel bad when I see that. All they’ve been told is “Keep it to your own spaces and we won’t have problems” and when they do, they have some retarded YouTuber being a public nuisance going “WOAAAH SO CRINGE”.

The Lolicons are just basically one skin of the gooner archetype; degenerates that jack off to a weird fetish. There's a million gooner communities on the Internet that get rock hard by just about anything you can think of (I'm pretty sure there probably exists a gooner community that jacks off to literal rocks).

I find the lolicons to be boring because they're no different than furries or other gooner communities out there. Degenerate weirdos jack off to weird thing, what exactly is the gimmick here that I'm suppose to be excited about or get interested in? If you've seen one gooner community then you've seen them all which is why I find the lolicons to be boring. Every gooner community is exactly alike, the only main difference is whatever fetish they worship.

I think Kiwifarmers see a difference in the fact that lolicon is a more detestable fetish. Even when it comes to normies, they tend to accept furries but still give lolicons the cold shoulder. Furries have the defense that the characters the sexualize simply share qualities with animals, but aren’t animals in the traditional sense. Lolicons, the whole point is the fact that they are indeed children in the traditional sense. Even if, again, they’re the authors fantastical definition of children. Either way, once again, agree.

Imho, gooning communities are never milkable, always a bad idea. It’s three-fold why.
1. Like you explained, seen one, seen them all
2. You can’t proclaim about how “I wouldn’t CARE if they kept it PRIVATE” whilst being in a thread actively digging and searching for it.
3. If you care this much about what someone cranks it to in private, you most likely have some sexual insecurities yourself so now we’ve just got a thread of hypocrites.

So when I see Kiwi Farms and the Sharty A-Log over lolicon, my is question is why? Why waste your time on Literately Whos most people won't remember in a week by now when there are far more important things to worry about? (Like world hunger.)

That’s a point I’ve heard before that stuck with me.

I remember I was lurking a thread and someone in it was shitting on bronies and talking about how grrrr degenerate they were and crap. And someone just replied to them with a detailed list of every major disaster that has occurred in the last 5 years, and ended it with “And you think society has fallen because adult men like a pony cartoon? Don’t you see? The fact that we’re having this discussion proves we’re already in hell.”. And that really stuck with me, like, kiwis (And honestly? All of us) focus so much on these internet communities while we let the world burn around us. We think we’ve made the world a better place cause we got the furry bullied off the internet, meanwhile another baby in the orphanage has learned to stop crying because they’ve realized no one will come help them. It’s insane, the internet has made a space where you can masturbate over your glory and altruism, deluding yourself into thinking you’re a hero.

We duped ourselves into thinking the culture war was the most important thing, ignoring… actual war.

Anyways, that’s why. That’s why they obsess over it while the world is in shambles, cause it makes them think they did something

I don't get how it's so hard for some people to understand that loli is not fundamentally different from diaper porn or inflation porn or prolapse porn or bloodplay porn or whatever other fucking shit internet weirdoes are jacking off to these days. In fact it's arguably not as bad as many of those simply by virtue of being entirely drawn.

… Is inflation porn not entirely drawn?

I don't want to sit next to a dude who is openly into loli the same way I don't want to sit sext to a dude who is openly into scat fetishism. I just don't want to deal with them because not only do they lack the social skills to keep personal info private, their personal life is gross. Should they be put on a watchlist? In a perfect world, no, but people get put on terrorism watchlists for twitter shitposts these days so maybe it's fair for law enforcement to keep a list of lolicons just in case. Should they be jailed? Absolutely not, we have freedom of speech/expression for a reason.

When it comes to fetishes, for me, it’s just about what’s possible/what causes harm. For example, bronies don’t worry me since the type of animal they want to fuck doesn’t exist. Feral porn artists worry me because the type of animal they want to fuck does exist. Vore fetishists don’t worry me cause the type of snuff they want to do dosent exist, amputation fetishists worry me cause the type of snuff they want to do does exist.

Scat, well, realistically you could just shit on someone’s face and they’d probably not die. So it’s always been whatever to me, still wouldn’t want to hear someone ramble on about it though.

Loli, fucking children is wrong, though these don’t look too much like children but still similar enough to freak me out and not want to be near you. But not enough to where, like you said, you should be jailed.

Letting the lolicons post about how much they love anime 10yo girls under their full names all they want is a good thing because they're openly self-identifying so they're easier to avoid and/or document in the cases of the criminal ones. You'd think that Jersh, owner of a literal fucking lolcow website, would grasp the concept of not interrupting an enemy when they're making a mistake.

That’s a fair point too, why would he want to force them into hiding? Maybe Josh is just bored or some shit, lmao.

great point, like if we're being more honest i bet most of them just hate anime in general and this is just a great wedge issue, if it was regular hentai they wouldn't be like oh-ok. in general Null and co hate sexualized women in any media, which means a big hate boner for anime. its like the tranny issue, the people hating trannies just want them executed, no matter if they're kids or whatever.

I call it a “nudge”. When an opponent insists that they can live in peace with you as long as you do this “one tiny thing”, then when you do that one tiny thing, now they want you to do this slightly bigger thing. And so on and so forth until their position is simply for you to be genocided, and this was their plan from the start, if even just subconsciously.

For example, let’s say you’re gay and I say “Ok, I’m fine with that! Juuuust keep it away from kids”. You do that, and I go “Ok, I’m fine with that! Juuuust keep it out of media”. You do that and I go “It’s ok to be gay! Juuuust keep it in the bedroom”. You comply, and I go “I support you! Juuuust make an effort to look more masculine”. You comply, and I go “Awesome! Juuuust have sex with at least one girl every week.”. You go ‘ok’, and I go “Nice! Juuuust don’t act on it at all”. You reluctantly obey and I go “Actually scratch that all, I want you fucking massacred”. This is a “nudge”. Maybe this was even my plan all along, subconsciously.

 

[aliteralfuckingwho]

People try to use "but (some of) it was traced on REAL CP!!1" to counter this btw but the cases of that are pretty uncommon.

My question is, how would they know that? Have they been searching for it? If they meant stw drawing of irl kids then that's another story. So let's say you have a drawing of a kid doing something normal. Like coloring. An artist who might have questionable drawings decided to draw it the same way it was presented apparently that's drawn CP?

I dislike calling Lolicon CP or variants of the word because it takes away from the horrific definition of the word (CSEM is proper term. Porn implies consent where we already established kids can't consent.) then there's the big thing. If CP is a denounced word due to implications of porn being consensual then does that mean drawings CAN consent? Does that mean you can cum on drawings of Goku? You have to ask?

Not to get pedantic here. It's the logic that both sides perpetrate and I'm just out here applying the same logic. I find it's a huge colossal waste of t8me especially when KiwiFarms had attacked people who drew stuff like this to "cope" with trauma. Look, I don't give a fuck if you draw th3 stuff as long as you don't forget to mark your account as NSFW. There's been tons of lolicons, shotacons and proshippers who allow children into these spaces.

People are free to write and consume whatever media. It depends on what you view it for. Calling them degenerates is more hetter then watering down the term pedophile. Most people who are lolicons are children as well (it overlaps with the proshipper community.) so KiwiFarms is comtent with calling them pedos too. I don't care for any side. Just scroll past the shit snd block. Most of these people get this shit on their timeline/algorithm because they intersct BLINDLY with it. Doesn't make a lick of sense.

But yeah. Don't care it's literally shit no one cares about. Now I won't deny there's SOME child predators lurking here. But going after inconspicuous members who blend in and don't interact outwardly with children or the vocal tards howho go uuuuuoooooggggghhhhhh and keep to themselves are not my buisness. Insisting one is a predator based on their kinks is the sole reason why pedophile and groomer is a nothingburger word. It loses all meaning.

And I really hope that they can find actual fucking evidence of child predation and not just the lolicon. I've been hearing lolicon is a offense convicted if you actually have CSEM. And that's likely going to be difficult to prove. Until then just laugh at these people. They're weirdos who like Pan a little too much.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

Like I said, as stated in Rule 19 of the Internet, "The more you hate something, the stronger it gets."

Any attempt to censor the Lolicons will make both the Lolicons and the anime community in general into free speech martyrs.

Any attempt to try to push the Lolicons away from the Internet only proves the point of the Lolicon Community.

Any attempt to harass the Lolicons without justification will only give more sympathy to the Lolicon Community.

The best way to defeat Lolicon is to simply not acknowledge it. Something only ever truly dies when the last person on Earth that acknowledges the thing in question says its name for the last time.

 

[Ultimate Niggerman]

My question is, how would they know that?

This is, of course, the golden question here. The few cases I've ever seen brought up as evidence of this were from SEA/Japan and involved loli authors getting caught with CP that they tried to pass off as reference material, allegedly. There's a big game of Chinese whispers (pun partially intended) with a lot of it because it doesn't hit English news often if ever, and authorities over there can be tight-lipped. The other thing that people try to conflate with it is loli artists using non-CP images of children as reference material, and that definitely happens and is pretty obvious if you see it because real proportions are quite different than most anime proportions, but it's really more just sickfuckery than criminal action. That's the kind of shit that should get you on a watchlist for sure though.

So yeah besides enough hearsay that I'm fairly sure it's happened at least once or twice there's no way to know, and anybody who claims to know for sure and isn't from Japan/SEA and reporting the story from a non-English source is either full of shit or telling on themselves.

… Is inflation porn not entirely drawn?

I do recall hearing about some fetish material involving gorging oneself on various types of food to cause extreme distension of the stomach to simulate inflation but I will admit I've never seen it, nor do I want to.

 

[aliteralfuckingwho]

non-CP images of children as reference material, and that definitely happens and is pretty obvious if you see it because real proportions are quite different than most anime proportions, but it's really more just sickfuckery than criminal action. That's the kind of shit that should get you on a watchlist for sure though.

Yes. There's been cases of that Assigned Male Sophie is a prime example. they traced over a kid for diaperfur art

 

[Kiwi Pot Pie]

I call them “loopcows”. Lolcows where they’re incredibly unfunny cause they just do the same shit over and over again that’s gotten very old. Think Mylar.

All lolcows have a loop because a lolcow is someone who keeps doing retarded shit and never learns. Chris fed the trolls, Ralph is a substance abuser who figuratively steps on rakes when he feels invincible, Alex Hogendorp switches between screeching tard rage and acting apologetic and weaselly when you remind him he is a self-admitted pedophile, Josh Moon spergs out at the slightest criticism of anything about his persona from his deranged political views to his obesity to even his taste in cheese. But your average furfag or lolifag artist is not a lolcow, because they, like most people, do not do retarded shit. They just have a gross fetish they share with other gross fetishists. What about that is so worth detailing?

A telling example I found on Kiwi Farms was someone tried to make a thread on a gay furry tranny juggalo diaper fetishist. Sounds like Kiwi Farms bait, right? But this was years ago, and the juggalo in question did nothing particularly retarded beside their bizarre lifestyle choices. So the Kiwi Farms of years back just shrugged and said "yeah this guy is weird" and moved on and his thread died after a few pages.

There are plenty of people like this. The wonderbread fetishist, the Mylar Balloon man, all of them are freaks but they are not the sort of freak you want to discuss like Chris was back in the day or Null is now. And that is because they are completely one note.