Burger Boy
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they simply don't - i'm sorry to have to say " that never happened "
but that never happened :(
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but that never happened :(
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CrazyDud32
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Funny, because it's always been the exact opposite for me. Even those who are quite online all the time failed to recognize the name. And I'm talking about under-50s, too. Literally none of them knew what I was talking about, and at least a few asked if I meant a literal fruit farm.
Todd Thundercock
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Correct. As you'll often see in Chris Chan threads, people there think he's this worldwide celebrity when the vast majority of people have no idea who he is. A tiny percentage of society follow any online shit.
Kramer is A Man Da
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define normal because barstool sports bros have referenced it in the past, as has buzzfeed and then there's the whole chris-chan connection. do the over 40 know about it? no. but if you have been online in the last half decade and are under 40 you know about kiwifarms. At minimum you know of shit like them hosting certain videos or having the dox of certain trannies or that its where you go if you want to know the entire background of e-celebs.
if you know any e-celebs on youtube or twitch you know kiwifarms. its like not knowing what tinder was in the fall of 2013 as a young adult, you'd be the exception, most people around you would have at least heard if not knew someone on it. If Shane Gillis some fratboy ex-college football bro knows what kiwifarms is or can at least articulate that he does after drinking an entire case of beer by himself for some stupid podcast game on the joe rogan experience (its a small podcast i'm sure you never heard of it) , i'm sure the average young person has at least heard of it.
now just because you heard of it doesn't mean you're a poweruser on it, but at minimum you know it because its "star" recently got arrested for raping his own mother or because they told the NZ government to go fuck itself or various other lawyers.
A lot of people here seem to forget that Kiwifarms is the forums of the Cwcki, and where you go to get the latest scoops on the motherfucker that was trending on twitter globally when he got arrested. People still act like its some secret club the same way people do 4chan. Kiwifarms right now is on par with where facebook or youtube was in 2005 in terms of recognizably which is amazing considering the reputation kiwifarms has.
You might as well say Mr.Beast is some fringe youtube guy. like obviously the older people or the tv people might not know anything but its extremely certain that if you ask someone that knows e-celebs they know kiwifarms.
there's a selection bias, if you ask people if they're subscribed to any youtubers or twitch streamers and then if they say yes proceed to ask the question you'll get a lot more hits. if you're already extremely online you will have heard the name like when the host of Taylor Swift's boyfriend's favorite podcast messed up the name when talking about chris-chan on an episode recently. of course you probably don't know who taylor swift is so why would you give a shit.
Daniel Stevens Cum Guzzler
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I want to know how they claim kiwi is saving lives when the vast majority of the content on the site is on either online grifters or legit mentally ill people. Let's take Dr. Katherine Horton or Elora snow who has hundreds of pages on her kiwi thread.
Katherine was a highly respected researcher who became schizophrenic sadly and now is trapped in her own delusions but isn't hurting anyone
And Elora is another woman with paranoid schizophrenia.
How is doxing and talking shit about these people at all helpful to society as a whole?
Yeah yeah zoo sadists bad but let's not lie, most of kiwis content is just making fun of people it's not this internet justice site that fights evil all day.
Plus I think the zoo sadists leaks originated from encyclopedia dramatica and was posted on kiwi.
Katherine was a highly respected researcher who became schizophrenic sadly and now is trapped in her own delusions but isn't hurting anyone
And Elora is another woman with paranoid schizophrenia.
How is doxing and talking shit about these people at all helpful to society as a whole?
Yeah yeah zoo sadists bad but let's not lie, most of kiwis content is just making fun of people it's not this internet justice site that fights evil all day.
Plus I think the zoo sadists leaks originated from encyclopedia dramatica and was posted on kiwi.
CrazyDud32
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Where I work, they're always playing her on the radio, so believe me, I know. I'm just saying that I've never seen or met anyone who knows what the Farms is, IRL. And another point...
This is quite true in my experience. Kiwi Farms? Never heard of it. Chris Chan? Who's that? On and on, it goes. I've even mentioned certain popular "lolcows" to people, and nobody cares. Todd's right - most folks really couldn't care less. I've asked quite a lot of people, across the spectrum, and nobody knows, and if I tried to explain it all, the gamut of responses ran from "mmm, that's weird, yeah," to "I don't really care." I've found that a lot of people really don't know internet slang, either. Incel? SJW? I've met one person, one, who actually knew what "woke" meant. And these aren't just normies, either. A lot of them are quite online themselves.
I will smoke you.
Come on, with a million monthly users, is that even possible?
How is this bad? 60k views and 769 comments isn't bad.
BTW, what is that "Stream Docket" Google doc he's reading from?
The link doesn't appear to lead to anything. Maybe it's a private document?
https//docs.google.com/document/d/1VITAMk5mZ26EONBwclq2-q_7A0zEwMJYk4KZWcQ6LIw/edit
You mean Isabella Yanke? Why won't you mention her name? And since we brought up Turkey Tom's video, here's his video about Isabella, an example of Tom using KF as a resource on a topic:
That's a reference to detransitioners who said they detransitioned due to reading KF, trannies who said they didn't get The Snip because they read all the horror stories that were banned when /r/NeovaginaDisasters was suspended on Reddit, and kids who said they considered transitioning but decided not to after reading KF. Those are all examples of KF saving lives.
People who accuse KF of driving troons suicidal always forget all these other stories about KF saving people from joining the SJW TRA cult, or helping them on their way to get out of the cult.
How is allowing schizos on the internet helping them? A lot of people are too mentally ill for the internet. When you allow these very crazy people online and they end up being triggered there and acting very crazy, don't blame the rest of the internet for noticing there's a crazy person in their midst.
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CrazyDud32
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Sounds a lot like Josh right there. Honestly, it's a miracle KF has even lasted this long with him at the helm.
Daniel Stevens Cum Guzzler
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It's not but it's funny but heaps of kiwis seem to feel the need to moral fag nonstop and suck the fun out of everything.
It's more that grifters who use kiwi for drama content seem to like to pretend that kiwi is solely a site for internet justice and it's not also a trolling site.
CrazyDud32
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That was honestly the reason I only ever lurked on KF. The threads became a total chore to read. Especially when they have to blogpost about how better they feel they are than the cows. Nobody cares you can cook better than Jack. Just fucking laugh at the slob with the rest of us.
Daniel Stevens Cum Guzzler
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So I might be on disability for autism, unable to hold down a job, my family hates me, I have no future prospects, I masturbate to furry porn, have no friends, haven't seen the sun in years and have a serious drug and alcohol problem.
But at least I'm not Chris Chan and didn't troon out and rape my mom. #lifegoals #betterthanChrisChan
TBH, I think anyone other than him at the helm of KF, there wouldn't be a KF. It would've either given into increasing SJW censorship demands long ago, or they would've given up, decided it was too much hassle and moved on to other things. I like the internet better with crazy people like Null on it. I just wish Null himself wasn't so cranky and was happier, is all. I mean, I get that he relishes being able to stick it to the troons and that all the Kiwis get vicarious pleasure from watching him beat them at their own game, but I do wonder if this cat-and-mouse game with the troons is really making him happy at a deeper level. I know a lot of people see Null as a destructive force but my impression of Null is that he's at heart a creative person. Hence why he briefly studied literature and why got into world building at Blockland, that was a kid's creative impulse that was kinda perverted by the social aspect of that forum. Null wants to make things, he definitely sees KF as his creation (there's also something blatantly aesthetic about the presentation of lolcows on KF, like it's "a gallery of fools"), but is this really how he wants to express his creativity? I remember watching Null's programming series on his personal channel and noticing how calm and zoned-out he sounded in those videos. There's something about programming that gets Null to that Zen state that nothing else does. Why can't he put that to better use than just on KF? I even told him something to that effect in an e-mail, and Null being Null I guess he took it as a backhanded insult, but I still wonder what life could be like for him after or past KF.
Todd Thundercock
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Me too, bud. Life ain't all that bad. Hang in there. And at least we haven't fucked our mom, or even thought of that as a possibility.
Latin X
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That reminds me. Many times Null has claimed KF is a comedy site and people should question before they post if their post is funny, instead of just seething. Has Null ever been funny even once? All he does is seethe. Ditto with his favored users.
Boobie Bomb
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I have concerns about the misleading perception that KiwiFarms is a site that saves lives, especially when it seems to be quite the opposite. It can be disheartening to witness claims from individuals, even women, asserting the life-saving qualities of KiwiFarms. However, upon closer examination, it becomes apparent that the site's flaws undermine this notion.
One of the primary factors contributing to my diminishing support for KiwiFarms is the behavior of Null, the site's operator. For instance, his involvement in the Goblin Babies thread did not do much to improve his image. While he claims that the thread was created to expose a mother who abuses her children online, the way in which it unfolded raises doubts about the site's noble intentions. Moreover, Null's allowance of the discussions about the children devolving into online memes only exacerbates the situation, giving people legitimate reasons to criticize and question the site's credibility.
In light of these observations, it is essential to evaluate KiwiFarms critically and recognize that it falls short of its purported role as a life-saving platform. The misleading claims surrounding its purpose can misguide individuals and hinder their ability to seek genuine sources of assistance and support. It is crucial for the public to be aware of these flaws and exercise caution when engaging with such platforms.
Most of the people who said KF helped them realize they needed to either detransition or to not transition at all were male, not female.
People having second thoughts about transition end up on KF because TRAs have censored all open and uncensored discussion about topics such as detransition and transition regret/botched surgeries literally everywhere else on the internet. TRAs themselves drove these people to KF with their censorship. It's really disingenuous to say that these people have an obligation to seek out "genuine sources of assistance" when it's TRAs who have gone out of their ways to utterly destroy those resources. Just look at the way TRAs targeted /r/detrans for years, or the way Katie Montgomery and his cult members will target literally any public detransitioner on Twitter.
Again: it's censorship that creates the demand and support for sites like KF.
If you want KF to not exist, stop censoring people.
It's the complete lack of self-awareness from the most terminally online of that whole group. It's especially funny to watch them take that stance when they have the Ethan Ralph subforum full of a-logs who aren't funny or saving lives or whatever.
Also, jfc that Elora Snow thread is a trainwreck. All it is is the lolcow shitting up the thread with the same nonsensical not-even-content over and over. Each time, they ban her for a week or two, and the thread dies because no one outside of the group of people who like to play Kick the Autistic post there. Each time they let her back on, it's back to pages upon pages of Elora posting meaningless symbols and shit over and over again in response to the retards who keep poking her. There's nothing funny or lifesaving about that.
You know you're in for a treat when the first page of every thread has the disclaimer at the top about feeling the need to tell people that you're better than the lolcow. People ignore that and a-log anyway, and it makes them look like pathetic retards to anyone skimming through. It didn't seem that long ago that people like Hirtes and Lagoona Blue got halaled for pulling that shit over and over.
He can be funny once in a while, but most of the time, especially in the last year or so, he spends most of his time talking shit about Ethan Ralph or chimping out at users who ask him technical support questions. Even the longtime users like AnOminous have gotten pretty a-loggy.