Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
I dont fully understand how Kiwi Farms can be so expensive.

There is a decent number of files to store, but otherwise its text and its not that many users.

I get that the court stuff can be expensive I suppose. Is that why its hard for him to stay afloat?
 
I dont fully understand how Kiwi Farms can be so expensive.

There is a decent number of files to store, but otherwise its text and its not that many users.

I get that the court stuff can be expensive I suppose. Is that why its hard for him to stay afloat?
he's lying. simple as

Another fun bit is that he's so paranoid he does everything himself. other people running websites like the stormfront guys or other censored people seem to be able to maintain websites with way bigger userbases and content because they know how to talk and treat people.

Podawful goes after much richer people than Null and his anti-indian bullshit, but despite being an internet criminal he's managed to stay afloat and have a wife and great life and studio and be able to do shows in front of a camera because he's not some crazy fucker who feels the need to double down anytime some makes them look like an ass.

like the userbase and post count of kiwifarms is on par with a subreddit. not even a big subreddit but a niche one like r/okbuddycinephile/ which is a subreddit spinoff of okbuddyretard but about movies, like that's how fucking small kiwifarms is, its the same size as a spinoff of a niche brainrot comedy subreddit that wasn't even an old subreddit, its from the covid era. like i'm pretty sure there are zoomers on fucking discord that get more traffic than kiwifarms but Null seriously thinks he needs 200k a year to maintain the only place he's allowed to be a racist neo-con without getting trolled.
 
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That Sacramento BPD woman's retraction letter against TurkeyTom was 100% written by Tom's lawyer and then they made her post it on her social media. It's a hostage letter. Because Tom's lawyer crisis team was undoubtedly threatening to sue her. It's just Tom trying to damage control and save his own skin to shut her up. But this is not a defense of her. I can dislike both parties and no binary thinking needs to be involved. I don't need to fluff Tom to spite Josh or vice versa.
I dont fully understand how Kiwi Farms can be so expensive.

There is a decent number of files to store, but otherwise its text and its not that many users.

I get that the court stuff can be expensive I suppose. Is that why its hard for him to stay afloat?
Yeah, something's not adding up with the KF expenses. He was a fool to allow all these lawsuits to build up and not coming up with a solution to avoid having to defend against all of them. But he thinks he can just run a fundraiser for each thing that comes up. He might have a secret vice like meth or gambling that is burning all the money. Or some woman draining all his money. It just seems the more he makes, the more he cries out for needing even more. It's a paradox. It doesn't make sense.

Also it's pretty funny that people told Josh that Turkey Tom monetized his own forum far better than he ever could. And Josh's response was to beg for $20 per month from each user forever.
he's lying. simple as

Another fun bit is that he's so paranoid he does everything himself. other people running websites like the stormfront guys or other censored people seem to be able to maintain websites with way bigger userbases and content because they know how to talk and treat people.

Podawful goes after much richer people than Null and his anti-indian bullshit, but despite being an internet criminal he's managed to stay afloat and have a wife and great life and studio and be able to do shows in front of a camera because he's not some crazy fucker who feels the need to double down anytime some makes them look like an ass.

like the userbase and post count of kiwifarms is on par with a subreddit. not even a big subreddit but a niche one like r/okbuddycinephile/ which is a subreddit spinoff of okbuddyretard but about movies, like that's how fucking small kiwifarms is, its the same size as a spinoff of a niche brainrot comedy subreddit that wasn't even an old subreddit, its from the covid era. like i'm pretty sure there are zoomers on fucking discord that get more traffic than kiwifarms but Null seriously thinks he needs 200k a year to maintain the only place he's allowed to be a racist neo-con without getting trolled.
I love the arrogance of Josh knowing the site isn't growing and has 3K average users but having the audacity to ban even a single person at this time, especially over his own mistakes over the Turkey Tom exes drama.
 
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I think the midterms/Presidential election in 2028 are going to be big issues for the forum.

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I dont fully understand how Kiwi Farms can be so expensive.

There is a decent number of files to store, but otherwise its text and its not that many users.

I get that the court stuff can be expensive I suppose. Is that why its hard for him to stay afloat?
He said a lot of it has to do with security against the site getting hacked.
 
Yeah, something's not adding up with the KF expenses. He was a fool to allow all these lawsuits to build up and not coming up with a solution to avoid having to defend against all of them. But he thinks he can just run a fundraiser for each thing that comes up. He might have a secret vice like meth or gambling that is burning all the money. Or some woman draining all his money. It just seems the more he makes, the more he cries out for needing even more. It's a paradox. It doesn't make sense.
Remember him talking about wanting to build a compound in the Florida swamps to hide from Antifa, and how he wanted to buy all these high end guns with armor piercing rounds and all sorts of tacticool crap? It could have something to do with that, though he's currently stuck in a one room trailer. He also wanted to prepare some kind of doomsday stock filled with cheese and canned fish and then when he ordered some he ate all of the fish within a week or two.
 
He is making $6640/month from donations alone. What more does he want?
It doesn't really matter what INCOME he has, if the OUTGOINGS are higher. We know a great deal of his wodge went on paying for Zhen's laziness. He also says he is using credit cards (plural). Depending on what kind of deal he has (and considering how piss poor he is at general life management), the vig could be killing him.

I mean, what's the top end cost of IT? How much do you pay for the 'jeets to keep this site running?
 
It doesn't really matter what INCOME he has, if the OUTGOINGS are higher. We know a great deal of his wodge went on paying for Zhen's laziness. He also says he is using credit cards (plural). Depending on what kind of deal he has (and considering how piss poor he is at general life management), the vig could be killing him.

I mean, what's the top end cost of IT? How much do you pay for the 'jeets to keep this site running?
I use outside contractors for specific projects/repairs, not to keep the site running. The monthly hosting fee is $358. Security is another $100. Outside contractors work out to $15 to $30/hour.
 
The monthly hosting fee is $358. Security is another $100. Outside contractors work out to $15 to $30/hour.
And, I assume, that is a low end price, right? You don't have many nutters trying to crash your site (the one's you do have, you usually give a broom to), but what is the upper end like?

I mean, how much is it going to cost to DDOS retard a site like Commie Farms, which as an ever growing list of people that want to do to COmmie Farms, what the Muslim world wants to do to Israel. Yeah, that's a little provocative.

Outside contractors work out to $15 to $30/hour.
Right, and how much did it cost you, to pay them, to get the site up, after it was fucked last time?

It costs all that money just to call Null a tranny? God Bless you Ken.
I know, we could go out into the streets and say it.... but IRL people don't have a fucking clue who joshy is.... luckily we can come here and point and laugh.
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And, I assume, that is a low end price, right? You don't have many nutters trying to crash your site (the one's you do have, you usually give a broom to), but what is the upper end like?

I mean, how much is it going to cost to DDOS retard a site like Commie Farms, which as an ever growing list of people that want to do to COmmie Farms, what the Muslim world wants to do to Israel. Yeah, that's a little provocative.

Right, and how much did it cost you, to pay them, to get the site up, after it was fucked last time?
@Nektar Geist it was about 2 to 2.5 hours.
 
@Nektar Geist it was about 2 to 2.5 hours.
And the reason the site was down for days?

btw, what is a upper level, a higher tier, for IT support, that joshy might need, for his site that gets a fuck tonne more traffic than yours? Like, what is the top whack someone could expect to pay to keep commie farms up? If you don't know, fine, just say so....
 
And the reason the site was down for days?

btw, what is a upper level, a higher tier, for IT support, that joshy might need, for his site that gets a fuck tonne more traffic than yours? Like, what is the top whack someone could expect to pay to keep commie farms up? If you don't know, fine, just say so....
The time it was down for days was because the web hosting provider was also down. That was totally beyond my control.
 
I dont fully understand how Kiwi Farms can be so expensive.

There is a decent number of files to store, but otherwise its text and its not that many users.

I get that the court stuff can be expensive I suppose. Is that why its hard for him to stay afloat?
he's lying. simple as

Another fun bit is that he's so paranoid he does everything himself. other people running websites like the stormfront guys or other censored people seem to be able to maintain websites with way bigger userbases and content because they know how to talk and treat people.

Podawful goes after much richer people than Null and his anti-indian bullshit, but despite being an internet criminal he's managed to stay afloat and have a wife and great life and studio and be able to do shows in front of a camera because he's not some crazy fucker who feels the need to double down anytime some makes them look like an ass.

like the userbase and post count of kiwifarms is on par with a subreddit. not even a big subreddit but a niche one like r/okbuddycinephile/ which is a subreddit spinoff of okbuddyretard but about movies, like that's how fucking small kiwifarms is, its the same size as a spinoff of a niche brainrot comedy subreddit that wasn't even an old subreddit, its from the covid era. like i'm pretty sure there are zoomers on fucking discord that get more traffic than kiwifarms but Null seriously thinks he needs 200k a year to maintain the only place he's allowed to be a racist neo-con without getting trolled.
I don't think Jersh is fully lying because even a small operation does cost money.

You got to think about the hardware costs, you got to think about the electricity costs, you got to think about any off-site storage, you got to think about backups (the more backups you have the better), you got to think about storage space for larger files like videos and images, you got to think about security for your users and for yourself, you got to think about hosting, the list goes on.

It wasn't that long ago that Jersh had to resort to using a backup on a NAS to run Kiwi Farms when his main copy started to fail due to hardware issues. The real question isn't the cost of hosting Kiwi Farms (I can forgive any website owner that makes these complaints because running a website of any size will always costs some hefty dough to keep it online); the real question for me is what the fuck is he using the thousands of dollars donated to him that was meant to be used for the forum but the money disappears into who knows where? (My bet is him importing some expensive cheeses from Europe or something.) That's the question that should be asked. If much of the money that is donated to him isn't being reinvested back into Kiwi Farms then where is it really going exactly?
 
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