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TheCIAGlowsInTheDark
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You know, I'm very well aware that Jersh when he ran 9chan did allowed lolicon and shotacon content.
Now unlike a lot of people, I'm not going to rip on Jersh for this because truth be told his chan site was like many out there where most chan sites also did allowed lolicon and shotacon content on the boards where this content it allowed (4chan allows it, 8chan when it was run by Hotwheels allowed it, and many smaller chan sites at the time also allowed it).
But what makes 9chan controversial for me was that Jersh also had a sub board on 9chan where actual pedophiles meet up and talked about their real life exploits and other degenerate and horrifying shit.
Say what you want about 4chan or 8chan (when it was owned by Hotwheels) or the other chan sites that do allow lolicon and shotacon content but at least those chan sites did went out of their way to crack down on IRL pedophilia and turned over any law breaking users to the Party Van.
9chan on the other hand? Jersh allowed actual pedophiles to use his board around the same time when the MAP phenomena started to roll out through many parts of the Internet. I will rip on Jersh for not having the foresight on why allowing actual pedophiles on his platform (that want to harm real children) is a really horrible idea.
At least 4chan made it very clear they don't tolerate criminals going after children. Jersh on the other hand? With 9chan it was practically like a Tor darknet forum where the moderation on 9chan was more lax than 8chan at the time.
At least most of the chan sites (4chan included) at least follow laws and practice some form of ethics on what can be allowed so they can continue operating legally. Jersh on the other hand? The dude was hanging out with criminals on his now failed imageboard and I think I can understand why Epik dropped Jersh and Kiwi Farms a few years back.
Now unlike a lot of people, I'm not going to rip on Jersh for this because truth be told his chan site was like many out there where most chan sites also did allowed lolicon and shotacon content on the boards where this content it allowed (4chan allows it, 8chan when it was run by Hotwheels allowed it, and many smaller chan sites at the time also allowed it).
But what makes 9chan controversial for me was that Jersh also had a sub board on 9chan where actual pedophiles meet up and talked about their real life exploits and other degenerate and horrifying shit.
Say what you want about 4chan or 8chan (when it was owned by Hotwheels) or the other chan sites that do allow lolicon and shotacon content but at least those chan sites did went out of their way to crack down on IRL pedophilia and turned over any law breaking users to the Party Van.
9chan on the other hand? Jersh allowed actual pedophiles to use his board around the same time when the MAP phenomena started to roll out through many parts of the Internet. I will rip on Jersh for not having the foresight on why allowing actual pedophiles on his platform (that want to harm real children) is a really horrible idea.
At least 4chan made it very clear they don't tolerate criminals going after children. Jersh on the other hand? With 9chan it was practically like a Tor darknet forum where the moderation on 9chan was more lax than 8chan at the time.
At least most of the chan sites (4chan included) at least follow laws and practice some form of ethics on what can be allowed so they can continue operating legally. Jersh on the other hand? The dude was hanging out with criminals on his now failed imageboard and I think I can understand why Epik dropped Jersh and Kiwi Farms a few years back.
ipreferpickles
An Onion Among Onions
Null seethes at a Vtuber getting more views on her streams than his.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Regardless of whatever you're saying about Hispanics, the right has clearly lost the culture war to point that Kiwi Farms is banning people for being transphobic and hiding trans doxes either out of worry of retaliation or because the site culture is becoming more liberal.
ipreferpickles
An Onion Among Onions
Epic Fail Man makes a thread pointing out that modern Kiwi Farms has lost it's purpose and is Green Reddit now. Other users agree with him, pointing out the left-leaning turn the site has taken and that multiple users and mods now sound no different politically from trans Redditors.
TheCIAGlowsInTheDark
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Think of it this way.
When you really think about it, the two political sides in America are currently having an identity crisis.
For the Republicans, they're stuck between MAGA and old guard conservatism. You do have the GOP on board with Trump but half of the GOP wants to go back to the way things were with Bush and Reagan.
Most importantly, even if Trump manages to deport the remaining illegal immigrants in America by the end of his 2nd term in office, you'll still have millions of browns living legally in the United States (either as citizens or legal residents which is around 54 million for latinos that live in America legally and this isn't me counting the other non-white groups in America).
Trump is not going to be here forever and the GOP will have to make a choice; either continue some of the identity politics policies that defined the Trump era but may bite them in the ass later or do what the Florida GOP did by embracing the browns and offer them policies that they will like so they can vote for them.
Lyndon B. Johnson (a Democrat) would be the first politician in modern American history to enact an open borders plan where under the Cuban Adjustment Act of 1966 which allowed Cuban refugees fleeing the Castro regime where they can obtain residency and American citizenship with ease if they can prove they are Cuban (and not get caught by the Coast Guard). From this moment on, Florida went from being a reliable blue state for the Democrats, to becoming a critical swing state in the later decades, and now it's a reliable red state for the Republican Party. Lyndon B. Johnson unintentionally screwed the Democrats over where over the decades the Democrats would slowly lose their control in Florida. This simple act of altruism lead to a demographic change which lead to Florida becoming right-wing now.
Now you're probably thinking. What about California or New Mexico and such? Why do the latinos in these states vote blue?
The answer is simple, these Democrat states give a bread and circuses act where they give out a lot of social programs (funded by taxpayers) where they incentivize latino voters (and even white voters living in these states in general) with free shit; vote Democrat in these states and the Democrats will give you free shit (courtesy of the taxpayer). If the Democrats stop giving out free shit, there would be no reason for anyone in these states to vote for them anymore and these states would go Red afterwards (regardless of whether these states are white or not).
Now let's move on to the Democrats. Fortunately for the United States, this country doesn't have any Muslim neighbors so in those countries where everyone kills each other over what they think is the correct interpretation of the Quran are on the other side of the world (so it's logistically a lot harder to import Muslims into the United States compared to how rapidly Europe is importing them into their countries).
But America still has brown neighbors which would be the Latin American world. The Democrats and Progressives are under this weird impression that the U.S. needs to import browns from these latin american countries. They think that by importing a hypermasuline culture from the third-world south of them will get them electoral victories in the long run. This is the same fatal mistake that Lyndon B. Johnson did with Florida. The Democrats and Progressives don't seem to realize they are signing their own death warrant by wanting to import more latinos and latino culture.
If the Democrats and Progressives have their own way, what they would be really be importing are third-world browns from third-world Christian nations that are arguably more socially conservative than White American Chrstians. This is what the Democrats and the Progressives fail to realize, that they're importing non-whites from countries that are predominantly Christian.
A good example of immigrants turning against their importers is the city of Hamtrack, Michigan. This city was once predominantly white and would be dominated by Muslims from the Muslim world and progressives celebrated that there is now a city in America that is non-white and non-christian. But what the stupid Progressives didn't saw coming to their horror was that the city of Hamtrack would ban LGBT pride flags on public property. The progressives where shocked on how can their new Muslim neighbors do this to them? To which many right-wingers that are very familiar with Islam said to them "We told you so."
Now imagine watching the Democrats importing latinos en masse, where their new Spanish speaking neighbors would eventually start demanding laws that outlaws gay marriage, restrict abortion, and put more restrictions on welfare policies.
Right-Wing politics will continue to exist in the United States but most likely in a different from. It's like that South Park episode where Wendy Testaburger created a social campaign to replace the unhealthy greasy food being served in the school with "healthy" vegan options. The school would finally serve vegan food only for Eric Cartman to point out that this new vegan menu is no different from the crap he ate before and this vegan food is just as unhealthy as the old greasy food because this vegan food was processed in a factory where they used who knows what to make this vegan food (to which the whole school collectively realized that Eric Cartman was right).
It would be the same thing here. That 1950's Americana culture will someday come back but it will most likely be brown instead of white and the Democrats and Progressives will wonder how could Right-Wing politics continue to remain alive in America that is now less white and not realize that it was their own fault that these brown immigrants eventually vote for a conservative president in a national election.
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ipreferpickles
An Onion Among Onions
"When all the brown people replace all the white people, the leftists lose"
Yeah no, you're huffing the premium copium the USPG2 crowd lives off of.
ipreferpickles
An Onion Among Onions
TheCIAGlowsInTheDark
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And for the moment, the people that are promoting leftist shit in America are predominantly white. Sure you do see blacks and browns that adopt left-wing politics but at the moment the vast majority of leftists in America are white and this trend hasn't exactly been reversing itself (the White Race in America has signed their own death warrant because a good chunk of them are left-wing these days thanks to college professors and media telling them to dismantle their own culture and filled the heads of White Americans on why American values is somehow bad).
Have you actually seen what latinos really think of gay people or transgenderism or abortion? I can tell you this, a lot of them don't have nice things to say about what they see as degenerate heresy against their religious beliefs (Catholicism/Evangelical Christianity) and things like chopping off a kid's wiener to make society "more equal" they also find abhorrent.
Import the third-world and you'll get the third-world and you'll truly get the third-world which is why the Democrats and Progressives truly have no idea what they're actually importing into the United States to begin with.
The irony is that had the Democrats and Far-Left Progressives still held on to their historic white supremacist beliefs then they would realize it would make more sense where they could make America more left-wing by simply importing white people from Sweden or Germany or Denmark because those European countries there have white people there that lean heavily towards the Left and it makes more sense to import people from progressive countries to make right-wing politics irrelevant in America.
But because the Democrats and Progressives are importing latinos from third-world Christian nations to make America less white and more multicultural, what they're actually importing their own demise where these immigrant groups will someday turn against them and vote for a conservative government instead. For the Democrats and Progressives, be careful what you wish for, you might really just get it.
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No, they're doing it to lower wages, and they want an easily controlled class of workers, who can be threatened with deportation easily. The US is stll run by neocon boomers who believe that making money is the only worthwhile goal in life.
European-Americans remember why their ancestors came to America in the first place-to get away from the kind of people in charge of the US right now. The people the government is importing literally subsist on mud cookies, there's a big difference between the two.
TheCIAGlowsInTheDark
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Probably to be fair here, I think it should also be noted that both the Democrats and the GOP know White America is dying and there is nothing that they can do about it so they're just finding new voters to replace the old dying white boomers that voted for them in the first place.
For the Democrats, they want latinos so they can have a voting block of welfare recipients so they can stay in power to continue their left-wing policies.
For the GOP, they want latinos so they can have a voting block of Christian conservative voters to vote for their right-wing policies.
Both political parties still want third-worlders to do jobs white people won't do (the Democrats want cheap farm workers and Republicans still want Indians to do cheap low level tech jobs)
The moment Trump is gone, I feel like things will go back to how they were before. I think the two political parties have come to the realization that White Americans no longer have an incentive to start big families anymore and to preserve white culture so may as well sell their politics to the browns. Both the Democrats and the GOP will likely still be in power as the white boomers will pass on the torch to their replacements when the white boomers are finally gone. The Culture War will likely still be prevalent in America only it's brown vs. brown instead of white vs. white in the future. You'll still have degenerate left-wingers still wanting to troon out kids and you'll still have right-wingers advocating for capitalism and Western values, only these issues will probably be argued in Spanish probably.
Gaijin Goombah
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@ipreferpickles you cherrypick screenshots of kiwifarmers complaining abut KF having turned into a MAGA hugbox as evidence that the site is more leftist today when all it means is the opposite. A passing glance at any thread that isn't BP, TES or the Donald Trump lolcow thread will show you how half the posts are /pol/-tier culture war shit even when it is extremely forced and out of place (the anime thread will go several pages at a time sperging about a gay or a black appearing in a show, for example). A requisite for being considered a lolcow is posting left wing stuff on social media. USPG2 is still one of the, if not the, most active threads on the forum. Null himself has fully embraced the right wing grift after years of acting annoyed by it (the political sperging moai sticker would never be made nowadays).
Lunar Magma
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Nope. I've never seen that one.
TheCIAGlowsInTheDark
Hellovan Onion
This Kiwi is not wrong,
In the beginning, Kiwi Farms was a forum dedicated to laughing at lolcows. Now? While they still laugh at lolcows it has also devolved into a weird right-wing TERF cult where if you don't simp for women unconditionally then you must be a pedophile.
I think the parallels between Something Awful and Kiwi Farms aren't that far off because the two websites played a role in Internet culture but they would lose their way and have a slow and brutal decline.
Something Awful was the Kiwi Farms of the 2000's. It was a forum where you'd talk about the latest Internet happens, pop culture, and some memes (like Slender Man and The Terrible Secret of Space) originated here and like 4chan you did had people that discussed the lolcows of the day (like Chris-Chan). But Lowtax got more erratic and crazy as he started to push more left-wing politics, he began banning many of of the best posters, and the only people left on Something Awful are troons and atheist progressives from the New Atheism era of the Internet. Lowtax would eventually take his own life on November 9th, 2021 after selling Something Awful to a 15 year old and had nothing left to live for anymore after running his forum into the ground.
We see a similar story with Kiwi Farms. While Kiwi Farms was technically founded by a different person, Jersh would take over Kiwi Farms in its early years and he would become the face of the forums. What made Kiwi Farms big was that you can discuss lolcows uncut and uncensored where you didn't had to deal with shit from other tech platforms. Kiwi Farms helped popularize the 'You Will Never Be a Woman' meme which is used in making fun of troons. Like Something Awful, Kiwi Farms also has sub boards for pop culture and happenings. But over time, like Lowtax, Jersh would slowly lose his grasp on reality. Jersh would embrace this weird TERF right-wing ideology while he also bans many of the good posters and oldfags that heavily contributed to the website. Now the only people left are retarded zoomers that don't have jobs, retarded TERFs, and the few remaining oldfags that Jersh hasn't bothered to ban.
Really the only thing left now is for Jersh to join Lowtax as he keeps burning what is left of his bridges and bleeding Kiwi Farms dry for every cent that it's worth.
Kiwi Farms is going to end like Something Awful and the only thing left now is probably watch Jersh pull a Lowtax to exit this world someday, probably.
then this fat retard thinks he'll get away with being a feminist
Kiwismarms
Remarkable Onion
I'm beggining to wonder how many people know what the right wing is.
Everything you described there is leftwing.
Not that it matters, unbalanced views on the forums are causing issues on the forum. There shouldn't be a left or right dominance, there should be people laughing at others who take politisperg in unrelted threads.
Mace Dindu
Remarkable Onion
please post that omg I really want to see it
Kiwismarms
Remarkable Onion
@Fedpostalservice did you get banned for dunking on null?
ipreferpickles
An Onion Among Onions
Both are true. The forum makes most of it's views and money from right wingers and Trump supporters but there is a growing amount of people who are very annoyed by those users, said group including some mods who are very open about how much they think Trump is a dictator and that all his supporters (including Null and other KF posters) are pedophiles. Keep in mind that it's mostly Trump supporters who make up most of the chuds on KF nowadays and are vicious towards any kind of criticism or doubt shown towards the idea that the right wing is winning in everything. There's also the fact that many of the people complaining have to do it in specific threads or else they'll get banned. Think of all the people got permabanned or threadbanned in the wake of the gravedancing over Charlie Kirk's murder.
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ipreferpickles
An Onion Among Onions
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