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Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
We are not in the 1920s, and we certainly aren’t in 1882. We’re under such a harsh thumb currently that there is no “Just get rid of this and everything will be peachy keen!”. If you deport Indians, they’ll just get someone else willing to work for pennies, and if they can’t do that then they’ll get a robot to do it for free. Anything as long as they don’t have to pay more than a dollar an hour. The war on immigration is not an American war, it’s the five hundredth distraction thrown at you by billionaires that still works.
That is the thing, if they got robots to replace Indians and Mexicans and whatever hypothetical race they import, that would be an improvement. That also has historical precedent because labor shortage means investment in efficiency. Fighting immigration is not a "distraction" created by billionaires (unless again, you mean what Trump does with ICE that Kiwi Farmers clap like seals for), nor is it even exclusively a white supremacist or nativist cause. It is literally a tool for improving society. Might be we will no longer have jobs, but if it is all so hopeless the billionaires have already won and UBI techno-feudalism is our fate like you imply, then it would be slightly less worse to live in that system if we could maintain something like living in a coherent nation and not just a diverse hellscape.
 
That is the thing, if they got robots to replace Indians and Mexicans and whatever hypothetical race they import, that would be an improvement. That also has historical precedent because labor shortage means investment in efficiency. Fighting immigration is not a "distraction" created by billionaires (unless again, you mean what Trump does with ICE that Kiwi Farmers clap like seals for), nor is it even exclusively a white supremacist or nativist cause. It is literally a tool for improving society. Might be we will no longer have jobs, but if it is all so hopeless the billionaires have already won and UBI techno-feudalism is our fate like you imply, then it would be slightly less worse to live in that system if we could maintain something like living in a coherent nation and not just a diverse hellscape.
The thing is, machines break down and require maintenance. Which begs the question, are they going to hire college-educated Americans to fix these machines or are they going to hire more cheap labor foreigners for the job?

Even if tomorrow human coders get replaced by AI and machines, someone has to ensure they're working properly so they don't doom humanity into a crisis.

When the refrigerator was invented, the invention of the refrigerator put ice salesman out of business because why buy ice from some dude off the street when you now have a machine that can preserve your food for a lot longer? But the invention of the refrigerator created new jobs, refrigerator repairmen (and a lot of those home appliance repairmen aren't white either).
 

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