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Null 🥝 Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
We suggested to Null a long time ago that he would be a lot less vulnerable if KF were to transform into a group of interconnected forums and websites
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Personally I think that this is the future, but I can see why he'd be hesitant because each of the sites would just grow more different over time and just be a lot harder to manage, since he of course would want to be the only one on top.
 
Zephyr said:
Personally I think that this is the future, but I can see why he'd be hesitant because each of the sites would just grow more different over time and just be a lot harder to manage, since he of course would want to be the only one on top.
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Yeah that is definitely true he would have to adjust on accepting more of a general consensus among the different forum owners rather than him being the only one on top and I don't think he is capable of that.
 
Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
As far as being a single monolithic forum, Kiwifarms is on borrowed time. We suggested to Null a long time ago that he would be a lot less vulnerable if KF were to transform into a group of interconnected forums and websites so we were more like a community with our own unique culture and maybe be more inclusive rather than just kicking people out. When VOID was an admin here I had him reach out to Null about this but predictably Null told us to basically fuck off.
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Null is an attention whore and everything has to be about him and his autistic cult of personality. Of course that was impossible.
 
Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
As far as being a single monolithic forum, Kiwifarms is on borrowed time. We suggested to Null a long time ago that he would be a lot less vulnerable if KF were to transform into a group of interconnected forums and websites so we were more like a community with our own unique culture and maybe be more inclusive rather than just kicking people out. When VOID was an admin here I had him reach out to Null about this but predictably Null told us to basically fuck off.
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Perhaps it wasn’t a good idea to send void I mean he was nice to me. But he wasn’t nice to other people and he has a questionable past. I also noticed that we take all the rejects to happen one way or another been banned from the farms. according to the farms point of view. smells of desperation.
I mean, your idea sounds good, but we need to find someone who is neutral and of good standing according to the farms. Someone that we know that we can trust to be a peacekeeper between the two groups.
 
fag0t said:
probably one of the more autistic things i have read
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I’m just saying if we’re going to go to the farms and try to make peace with them, you know an olive branch and stuff. or the very least try to find some common ground. We should not have someone with a questionable past you know dark skeletons in the closet.
I’m not sure why we would be doing this, but I guess this is one of the goals Ken wants.
 
Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
As far as being a single monolithic forum, Kiwifarms is on borrowed time. We suggested to Null a long time ago that he would be a lot less vulnerable if KF were to transform into a group of interconnected forums and websites so we were more like a community with our own unique culture and maybe be more inclusive rather than just kicking people out. When VOID was an admin here I had him reach out to Null about this but predictably Null told us to basically fuck off.
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Sadly Josh wants Kiwifarms to be reddit for lolcows. "Reddit Farms," if you will.
 
bubss said:
I keep getting vindicated that everyone on KF or shaken off the main body is a broken personality disorder having ultra loser who only views morality in terms of who is "nice to them" or not. Getting indoctrinated into Null's pathetic fascist cult focused on hating transpeople and slandering them as sex offenders is easy since most of you have never interacted with them and indeed have hardly interacted with anyone because you're deeply offputting and obnoxious. "Questionable past" He literally went to jail. For child abuse. Don't ever reply to me ever again or talk about me ever again you crazy disgusting bitch.
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I have interacted with Trans people, and they are all messed up.
 
Ashley Hutsell Jankowski said:
I keep getting vindicated that everyone on KF or shaken off the main body is a broken personality disorder having ultra loser who only views morality in terms of who is "nice to them" or not. Getting indoctrinated into Null's pathetic fascist cult focused on hating transpeople and slandering them as sex offenders is easy since most of you have never interacted with them and indeed have hardly interacted with anyone because you're deeply offputting and obnoxious. "Questionable past" He literally went to jail. For child abuse. Don't ever reply to me ever again or talk about me ever again you crazy disgusting bitch.
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I am fully aware of this person’s past. I was just trying to acknowledge it, but at the same time, not start a fight and have some decorum.
 
Zephyr said:
Dunno what you mean by succeed, but if I were in Null's shoes I'd do two things; Remove posts that get complained about as he is doing with the redaction he implemented, and try to get more money.

The first thing is just because his ass WILL be on the street if he doesn't. And if that happens, he can kiss his KF tugboat goodbye. The site being up is the only way he can get money right now.

Clearly, the bottleneck in his operation is money. He doesn't work, and relies on donations. It seems clear to me that his #1 priority should be making it as easy and enticing as possible to send him money, but he does basically the opposite.

As for how to get money, I'd have more (and more varieties of) merch. Stickers, posters, etc. Whatever you can put on redbubble. I don't know how he's doing the payment for his current merch stuff and I don't really care, but the fact of the matter is that Kiwifarms has a marketable brand.

Also, have it up front and CRYSTAL CLEAR how to send me crypto. I've seen a lot of people asking "how do I turn my cash into crypto" and never seen Null help them through it. I wonder how much money he's left on the table that way.

Of course, he won't get out of his own way and continually alienates people who seemingly would give him money by being a standoffish, angry retard whenever he posts, but I think it's a lot smaller of an aspect than it would initially seem. People put up with autism when they can be paypigs, just look at any twitch streamer.
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I agree with a lot of what you said. I would like to point out the reason why it’s so hard to donate money to Null A he may or may not be able to get a legitimate bank account somewhere B if it was very easy to donate to the farms, then people who hate the farms which shut it down.
 
Firegirl26 said:
I would like to point out the reason why it’s so hard to donate money to Null A he may or may not be able to get a legitimate bank account somewhere
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Oh, I'm perfectly aware. That's why I only talked about crypto. There's not much people can do to shut down donations in crypto, so my point was that he should make it as clear and easy as possible for people to get their money into a position where they can just send it to him.
 
Zephyr said:
Oh, I'm perfectly aware. That's why I only talked about crypto. There's not much people can do to shut down donations in crypto, so my point was that he should make it as clear and easy as possible for people to get their money into a position where they can just send it to him.
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Nice to know. I don’t use bitcoin or cryptocurrency, but I do remember that if you look on the front page of KiwiFarms down on the bottom, it says how to donate.
 
Firegirl26 said:
I agree with a lot of what you said. I would like to point out the reason why it’s so hard to donate money to Null A he may or may not be able to get a legitimate bank account somewhere B if it was very easy to donate to the farms, then people who hate the farms which shut it down.
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Actually, there were efforts at shutting down the crypto-wallets of anyone who donated to KF during #DropKiwiFarms. There's a Youtuber called Old Man Londre who runs an organization called Cryptocons.org and he was using the Twitter account associated with that organization to track down and shut down the crypto-wallets of Kiwis. He was openly bragging about doing so on Twitter at the time, while openly threatening to doxx Kiwis themselves just for using the site:

KiwiFarmsWalletExplorer.jpgOldManLondreCryptoCONsOrg.jpgOldManLondreEncouragingDoxxing.jpgOldManLondreFOIAtehCIAS00p3rS3kr1tDox.jpgOldManLondreKFTotallyDead.jpg

So no, crypto isn't as safe or as private people seem to think it is.

Zephyr said:
Oh, I'm perfectly aware. That's why I only talked about crypto. There's not much people can do to shut down donations in crypto, so my point was that he should make it as clear and easy as possible for people to get their money into a position where they can just send it to him.
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Actually, there are other ways to get money to Null besides crypto. There was Kiwi during #DropKiwiFarms who ran the Twitter account @defendkiwifarms and they posted a long thread with a list of different ways to get money to Null besides crypto:

 
I like how null was defending ssniperwolf for something that gets users a pink triangle for admitting on site. Cow touching since he considers the guy making videos on her one to defend her, not that he has any principles to begin with and not like users haven't done it in the past. But just go to show he will throw away all his credibility to his remaining users just to simp for someone that will never notice him and its not like he has any left for people with an iq above room temperature.
 
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