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Joshua Conner Moon - Kiwi Farms Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Gaijin Goombah said:
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What are the implications of featuring political news and a Qtard video, then complaining when your forum gets filled with antisocial /pol/tards?
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Josh is super similar to Fredrick Brennan's 8chan days in this way. Recruiting retarded, super fringe right-wingers because they travel in packs and post on the internet all day. Makes you feel important when your forum is always active. But then there's that bitter aftertaste of an insane and intolerable userbase.
 
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Josh wrote love letter to his current best internet friend Ashton "PPP" Parks.
okay look, what you have to understand is that I am probably the longest running unironic fan of PPP. I think maybe 99% of people who know him just think he kind of spawned out of a gutter one day and started the Kino Casino with Andy Warski, but that's not the case. I don't think people even know PPP has a meaning: People's Populist Press.

Back when Ralph was actually really popular and raking in thousands of dollars off of YouTube, the atmosphere of the Internet was completely different. I could best describe the streamers between GamerGate and the end of the Trump admin as patchwork similar to the tiles of the floor of a mental institution. Locked in grout, respecting each others boundaries, not very interesting or transgressive.

But even in the hyper-censored days, there was an underground, and this was back when /cow/ was still a thing. What some people, notably Godwinson and then PPP, would do is just boot up streams and talk the maddest shit that has ever been talked. They'd use cheap webcams or their phone propped up against a wall, with the worst audio quality ever. Godwinson in particular had rules (styled after the Dogme 95, an informal set of avant garde cinematography rules) he called Kino Dogme 2007. Audio quality, video quality, and film style had to be on par with 2007 YouTube, which he called the peak of YouTube. Godwinson calling certain unintentionally artistic things "kino" is where PPP got the word.

They were also very anti-grifting. Back during GamerGate, Patreon and SuperChats were called "hipster welfare" and it was a mark of shame to have one. There's very famously a video of Metokur ridiculing someone for having a RedBubble selling things like clocks with their logo in it.

So those were the rules. GWS and the People's Populist Press followed the rules and the gambit was they were going to talk all the mad shit that the streamers in the organized, for-profit streaming patchwork would never do, less they risk the well-established hierarchy and their position in it. Matt Jarbo is a good example of what happens to someone who upsets the balance and gets dressed down by all the big boys.

GWS and PPP, having absolutely no financial incentives and no real audience, had no rules to play by. So they'd prop their phone up against a wall, open Google Hangouts, use that to stream to YouTube without using OBS (OBS was abominable to the Kino Dogme), and then just air out all the laundry about the then-untouchable Ethan Ralph.

Now normally a coked up angloid and a big fat guy streaming to an audience of 40 people (I was one of them) should not upset the guys making tens of thousands of dollars doing the easiest job ever created. But it did. Even though Ralph's audience was 6000+ people on a good day, the hundred or so anons on /cow/ sharing clips of GWS/PPP bullying Ralph drove him so up the wall he'd start arguing anonymously in his own defense.

They all did this btw. All those big boy streamers read /cow/ and would whiteknight themselves. I'm sure even Andy Warski did it too.

PPP's real gift as a performer is his background as a youth pastor. He has a classic American southern baptist style fire and brimstone way of casting condemnations on people. Even when he does it without religious context (though religious condemnations were way more common for him during this era) it is still very compelling.

This is also where Coach Redpill comes in. Despite Coach not even being relevant to anything I've mentioned, for some reason he loved /cow/, he loved shit talking streamers, and he had this enormous dating YouTube channel, but would still randomly post 3 minute videos of himself making fun of Ethan Ralph on /cow/. He really thought GWS and PPP were the coolest kids on the block and he coveted their approval.

Over the years, three big things change: (1) Metokur becomes a grifter, and by proxy whatever Metokur does is OK for everyone else to do because he is always the top dog in the hierarchy, (2) Godwinson had a falling out with PPP. Without Godwinson to preach the Dogme, PPP appears to have stopped caring about it, and (3) Mad at the Internet started and was the most successful podcast about Internet drama in da setur for a long time.

I believe that he looked at Metokur and said, "I can grift better than that", looked at Godwinson and said, "I don't need that anymore", and looked at me and said, "I can do that with more energy." So, being someone with approximately zero technical knowhow, he called up the most senior streamer he somehow stayed on good terms with and said "let's do a show I'm going to make you rich buddeh". That's my theory.

Early KC I really didn't like. It was, and still is, very loud. However, the biggest improvement is literally just that PPP will talk over Andy without mercy now. I saw it was successful but I didn't like it. I developed stockholm syndrome for KC after I started needing to do work after about 8pm and for some reason their timeslot would occupy 8pm to 4am which is exactly when I had shit to do.


You might notice by this point btw that I just refer to the Kino Casino as a whole by just saying PPP. I honestly do have a hard time saying nice things about Warski. We have had precisely one interaction before Kino Casino, and that was during the Tonkasaw Boxing Event. He had a really big chimpout with me on the air and started calling his boxing promoter a dumb whore and all sorts of other awful shit while I'm just going "Warski????" over and over again in disbelief. For some reason she didn't care at all and let him fight still. It's not that I don't like him on a personal level, I just don't really have anything to say about him.

I've never discussed this with PPP, but I think the reason he's kept with Warski is either out of a sense of loyalty, and/or (my current theory) is that Warski actually does a ton of show prep and genuinely does good work with the production that PPP doesn't think he can easily replace or do by himself. I don't mean operating OBS, I mean watching hours of footage, clipping stuff, paying attention to news vectors that people like me do not pay attention to, knowing basically everyone who has ever made appearances in the sektur off the top of his head. I think those kinds of things have immense intangible value.

so huge tl;dr but PPP has always been one of the most transgressive shit-stirrers in the sektur and what makes him really unique is that he did it for more than half a decade without taking a paycheck just because he thought people like Ralph and Rekieta were sinners who didn't deserve the bounties they had been given. his turn from anti-grifter to grifter was an honest to god "the city deserves a better class of criminal" situation.

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Kiwifarms user DogZero gives a scathing, accurate rebuke of Josh's love letter to Ashton "PPP" Parks, calling it fantastical and revisionist history.
1) Josh's recounting of the founding of the kino casino, and what precipitated it is not just extremely funny for being one of the most sycophantic posts I have seen in this thread which is already at least half KC superfans, but is also consistently inaccurate to a fantastical level. Some of the mistakes are minor and not super important, but others, like why PPP started grifting, failing to mention the powerchat paypig leaks or metokur confronting them on it, when the godwinson breakup actually happened and why, among others seem almost intentional. A conspiratorially minded person might think the purpose of that post was to poorly fabricate a new "creation myth" of KC for the newcomers in this thread who view even the first two years of KC as esoteric lore and don't know any better. Personally, I tend to assign things more to stupidity than malice, and some of the all time bangers in that post like suggesting PPP was inspired by MATI support that side.

In any case, it is funny to have such errors from the guy who runs the same place where what actually happened is recorded pretty extensively. Even funnier is Josh's assertion that he was one of the 40 original live viewers of PPP both because if everyone claimed that was telling the truth it would mean PPP had more viewers than the killstream and because if true it means he was watching live the hundreds of times PPP called him a pedo and called for his execution, something I doubt he would just sit and take still thinking he is a fan given his visceral reflexive response to criticism anywhere else.

I think that post, and lit cigarette's post in response pointing out how these strategic alliances usually go for him will age very poorly and very well respectively in the future.

2) Regarding those criticizing a-logging in this thread despite it not being in multimedia, I point you to these interesting posts made in a thread similarly divided between a-logs and fans.
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This thread is for discussing KC, including negatively, it's the thesis of the site. Nothing ABG has done falls outside that. This is not strictly a fan thread, and to those who want one, consider what happened when the thread from the posts above briefly got split between fans and a-logs. (spoiler it didn't last long).

3) After reading the last few pages of debate, the gruesome descriptions by lit cigarette, and the ridiculous attempts to cope which would be called out in any other circumstance by the same people I now more than ever before affirm that ANDY WARSKI LIVESTREAMED CP ON 2/28/2019.
 
Josh is still gay.
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This was already posted, so I will elaborate on the wicked engagement this lolsuit is getting on twitter. Nulls girlfriend Ana Slatz must be so proud, I bet she's in their lovenest now, preparing Josh some top notch crockpot slop to celebrate.

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thefrogninja said:
Hardin (on Josh's orders) is suing Kandiyohi county.*
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You forgot to add, "frivolously" or "without merit" at the end.

Even by Hardin's own admission the only reason Nick has for this is some photos from an intoxicated live stream. By no means does that mean the photos were admitted as evidence. Ever. This whole thing is schizophrenic as fuck. I get that Jersh and Hardin are both borderline sovereign citizens but jfc do you really think you can sue the government and accuse them of conspiracy AND WIN? We still don't even know that much about MKULTRA for fucks sake and we can prove that actually was a government conspiracy. Absolute mental illness from everyone involved.

Then again, these are the people who think Jersh can just ignore Take It Down
 
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