Joshua Conner Moon - Kiwi Farms Josh and Finances

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms

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When it comes to finances, Josh is consistently inconsistent with his figures, and no one is really certain how much money he is making monthly, spending, and has stored away in his walls. Because of trolls and persistent enemies, Josh has had to pull himself up by his bootstraps and buy a server, colocate, and also control his own ASN/IP range [A], July 12, 2019, to bring as much operation under his control as possible, as to avoid attack vectors.
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In This Post [A], May 8th, 2020, Josh states he spends $500 USD a month on colocation costs and $1500/year USD on a subnet mask.
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However, in This Post [A], December 5th, 2020, a little under 7 months later, these figures have increased to $750 and $2000 respectively.
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An odd increase, and one without any justification in posts from what I was able to find. Perhaps he has moved colocation hosts? Perhaps he expanded the IP range? No ideas.

Another odd fact is that he has maintained a $1000 operating cost figure for years, apparently beginning in late 2016 [A].
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Again [A] in March of 2019.
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A few days later posting a general outline of his expenditures [A]:
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And Again in February 2, 2020 [A], also admitting an offer to lowtax of $10,000 for a Xenforo 2 forum migration:
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Later in September 10th of 2020 [A]:
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And finally the most recently in January 6th of this year [A]:
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One figure of note is the cost he has presented for the server. In the "Biting The Hand That Feeds" post, he stated he bought the server for $2000. This conflicts with previous posts of his such as This [A] (3/17/20) and This [A] (4/2/20) where the server is said to have cost $8,800.
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Josh has previously stated in a /cow/ post that forum runs off of multiple servers working together (where he also admits he "doesn't do the lolcow thing").
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Aside from this he also runs other web services such as lolcow.email. Whether the $2000 figure is an entirely different server or him fucking with the figure for the original "$8,800" server is unknown.

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A question that needs to be asked is "How is Josh making money in the first place?". Josh has:
  1. Offered hosting/software services such as offering lowtax XF2 migration + hosting for $10,000, and successfully duping Fredrick "Hotwheels" Brennan out of $12,000 for infinity next. [1]
  2. Accepted $20 for "True and Honest" donor statuses + General donations. [1]
  3. Attempted/Is attempting to create a base of $100/mo supporters/sponsors. [1] [2] [3]
  4. Hosted t-shirt/sticker merchandise runs. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
  5. Ran a Patreon for his stream "Mad At The Internet" (Now defunct) [1] Has run other Patreons previously.
  6. Traded stocks and Cryptocurrencies. [Multiple posts across forum]
  7. Ran a cryptominer on the site. (Now defunct) [1]
  8. Life Savings (Apparently drained now)

This is just a general thread for watching his money and expenditures. We really have no idea how much he's making or spending as the bills and accounts are completely invisible to everyone. With what we have there are some oddities worth looking into. I made this pretty quickly so I'm sorry if there's a few errors or poor organization.
 

thefrogninja

JDANKS420
An Onion Among Onions
Archives of Josh's newproject2 are out there somewhere. I can't remember the link to check. In it he displays amounts of cash it would take for him to live "comfortably." Would be good to dig up.
 

Gajin

Registered
First off, I'm pretty sure the $2,000 server is a different one than the $8,800 server that was set up last year. I remember a lot of drama about it at the end of 2019 in chat when things were going really slow and Null kept saying he was looking into getting a new server.

Another thing to add, because I'm not quite sure it's included with number 1, is that he makes money from his 1776 hosting company. I remember him talking in chat about how there are a lot of Russian sites that use him because they contain dox info or whatever and they're constantly being hounded by people. I legitimately don't know how much he charges and how many clients he has with it, though.

Finally, there's income from his streaming. I'm not sure how much he got when he was on stream.me or DLive (was he on DLive or am I just remembering wrong?), but recently, he's been streaming on chink controlled Trovo to get that CCP cock-sucking money which is why he has began streaming more. Here's the link[A] to his account. However, I think in either the last MATI stream or the last video game stream, he mentioned them "not liking him" or otherwise hinting that he may not be getting any revenue from them anytime soon.

But just in general, I, too, am mystified by his financial situation and his overall living situation. He legit has some cognitive problems from what I've seen, with his inability to make any progress with a second language being the most obvious one. I just don't get how he functions in 3rd world countries like Ukraine and Serbia without ANY language abilities. I get that there are some people who help set up apartments for ex-pats and whatnot, but maintaining a long-term life there without speaking Serbian would mean that he probably only ventures out of his apartment to get food and nothing else.

P.S.: Great thread set-up, @Vex !
 

Noghoul

An Onion Among Onions
I get that there are some people who help set up apartments for ex-pats and whatnot, but maintaining a long-term life there without speaking Serbian would mean that he probably only ventures out of his apartment to get food and nothing else.
Definitely, he only goes to buy food and the local soda. He has mentioned before that pretty much he only socialises through chat and discord.
I wonder where he gets his drugs though, if the rumor that he still does Adderall holds water. Both local prescription and a dealer would requiere knowing Serbian, I don't know a lot about the country but I don't think Serbia has medical tourism, so knowing Serbian would be requiered for getting amphetamines.
 

polonium

feels later than it is
Hellovan Onion
knowing Serbian would be requiered for getting amphetamines.
I dunno about Serbia specifically but a lot of places you can still score if you don't know the local language but you'll be paying horrifying tourist prices
 
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The Real DJ Yella

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Definitely, he only goes to buy food and the local soda. He has mentioned before that pretty much he only socialises through chat and discord.
I wonder where he gets his drugs though, if the rumor that he still does Adderall holds water. Both local prescription and a dealer would requiere knowing Serbian, I don't know a lot about the country but I don't think Serbia has medical tourism, so knowing Serbian would be requiered for getting amphetamines.
What about online pharmacies, research chemicals and those types of things? I've never used them but I'd assume that someone so long associated with both shady internet shit & prescription pill abuse would be familiar with all of that
 

Niggo Mortensen

Baby Onion
Most people in Europe, especially younger people, speak English. He can eke out an isolated, wretched existence by making a few hundred per month and not know the local language. Anything else likely requires him to use Google Translate.

That pretty much explains Jewsh’s finances. He does not have special internet skills where he does freelance work. I could see a couple sites using 1776 hosting but it’s not going to be much. A low key and threadbare existence is about all he can do. So much for wanting to start a family.
 

Noghoul

An Onion Among Onions
Most people in Europe, especially younger people, speak English. He can eke out an isolated, wretched existence by making a few hundred per month and not know the local language. Anything else likely requires him to use Google Translate.

That pretty much explains Jewsh’s finances. He does not have special internet skills where he does freelance work. I could see a couple sites using 1776 hosting but it’s not going to be much. A low key and threadbare existence is about all he can do. So much for wanting to start a family.
Keep in mind he gets a massive cut out of 1776, his rates are two times the average for what he offers.
 

PESTPOOM

"such an infantile shitpump"
Baby Onion
"Listen guys, I'm giving you free access to a service that costs me $500/month to run. How can you sit there and complain about the quality of things and compare me to other people when you aren't the one spending $750/mo? This wouldn't even be a big deal if I could run ads on the site, that would easily get me the $1,500/mo I need. Since that can't happen, I just need 20 users to subscribe to a monthly newsletter for $100 so that I can reliably keep things operational. If you have a better idea of how to earn that $3,000, you're wrong, I've tried everything. I was interviewed for a six figure job that fell thru because they found out about the site I pay $4,500 for on a monthly basis and they LAUGHED at me. So let's get the facts straight. You have NO IDEA how much money is needed to run things around here ($10,000), so make sure you've sent me a few bitcoin first before you want to complain about anything!

OY VEY!"
 

SSF2T Old User

No Super Combos Necessary
Hellovan Onion
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This is your brain on stonks.
>When you run out of unique ideas that you go back to the same dead horse (CWC) you've been beating for years
I get he's a sacred cow and is the reason why the site exists to an extend, but come the fuck on. This is like when your girlfriend/boyfriend breaks up with you but you still decide to use them in your fanfictions.
 
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