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Joshua Conner Moon - Kiwi Farms Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Josh banished a thread I made into talk to staff and got into a heated agrument with me, thought maybe you guys might get a kick out of it, or might think i'm a sperg:

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And people tell me I take the site too seriously.
 
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Bear Hammer said:
And people tell me I take the site too seriously.
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i love how his entire argument is that you aren't a mod. if you were a mod you'd get away with it. Also how much of a retard do you have to be to pay for T&H and get a pink triangle?

Null would rather die than do something about bannings because most of them are because of slights against null, harder to get away with that if he had to put a reason down for each one
 
Obscenity2022 said:
no one really talks about how Null will just ban the few effortposters like Blav in the destiny thread or @The Gays From LA in the contra thread
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I was an effortposter too before getting banned for "spam," whatever that means. Honestly, we may need to seriously consider the idea that Josh bans people out of jealousy. If you write better than him, if you're funnier, if you're more insightful. Any of these things. I doubt he would ever admit it, but due to his massive ego, he doesn't want to be outshined by anyone on the site. He's supposed to be the head honcho, supreme leader. And if someone is more liked or better at something he thinks he is, then he suffers narcissistic injury and breaks out the ban hammer. As one example, anytime Josh criticizes Metokur, it splits his MATI audience. Instantly, half of chat revolts against him 'cause they like Metokur more than Josh. And given the binary choice of Josh vs Metokur, most pick Metokur every time. Metokur has more natural charisma and thus, more simps. The squeaky, fat, short, voice-cracking Josh just can't compete. Not that Metokur is any better honestly. He's an ostensibly terminally-ill guy with breaking bones, wearing a clamshell brace for his crumbling spine and mostly sits in his recliner chair these days while worshipping Vtubers. Not exactly cool. But he used to be to his audience. Josh is your fat nerd friend but not someone you admire or want to be like. I mean, why would anyone? He's fat! So on any issue, fat Josh is giving his hot take and dude can't even control his eating addiction. I just don't respect his opinion. Like Josh will rant about how you must be feminist to get white women and how the incels won't reproduce. And I'm just thinking, "Bro you can't do a single pullup, let alone a muscle-up. You can't lecture me on anything. Do 10 pullups and get a six pack. That will show me you unlocked true discipline and strength." At best, a fat guy like Josh or Ashton Parks can be an entertainer or a clown. That is an acceptable role for a fat guy.
 
Out of curiosity has Null ever given an explanation why Kiwi Farms needs $12,000 a month, or about $145,000 a year, to operate? It's a shitty web forum in the asshole of the internet that few people know or care about (and if they do know it's always dismissed as a doxing/hate site).

It couldn't be more obvious he needs this amount to finance his metamorphosis into Jocelyn, we all know it's true. The trannies biggest alogs are other trannies, and Josh is the biggest tranny of all. :story:
 
Obscenity2022 said:
Next you'll tell me young people don't vape or do nicotine pouches.
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Off-topic, but have people gotten so fucking stupid over the years to where now every store that sells cigs and vapes have warning signs all over the fucking place saying how they have nicotine and nicotine is bad for you?

Like, yea no shit! Even the most braindead retard back in the day knew that, why does it need to be explicitly spelled out for people? The signs themselves aren't even subtle, they're just as gigantic as the cig/vape rack.
 
Joshua gives his thoughts on some youtube video by a political youtuber.


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I actively watched and listened to the entire video.

His arguments run cover for basically every right-wing spook: immigration is bad, diversity is bad, DEI is bad, supporting Ukraine is bad, etc. His main thesis is that all of these points are a mere facade covering the greatest threat of all (which is definitely not a left-wing spook): Nazism and Putin, and that Putin has paid off popular creators to popularize Nazism so that the US is weakened.


He suffers tremendously from not addressing what I call 'presuppositions', which is a real word but I use it in a specific way. I realized as a teenager listening to Atheist vs. Creationist debates that there's no way to have a real productive conversation between those two groups because they cannot make their arguments in a way that is accepted by the opposition. This is because our knowledge is built on a stack of assumed truths I call presuppositions, and in conversation you expect your partner to presuppose certain things. In a disagreement, you will unwittingly analyze your presuppositions to find the most fundamental difference between yours and your partner's, then tackle that difference to try and convince them to realign with you. Consider the following:

"Evolution is real." "It is not, God created mankind in his image." "There is evidence of evolution." "The evidence is planted by the Devil." "There is no Devil." "The Devil is real, he is mentioned in the Bible." "The Bible is a collection of fairy tails." "The Bible is the truth." "It was written by fallible men." "It is the word of God." "There is no God." "God is real." <- That is the fundamental presuppositional difference, and it is so fundamental that these two parties cannot approach the topic of Creationism productively.

Left vs. Right dichotomy has become increasingly unhinged over the last 10 years and that is because the foundational presuppositional difference between the two sides has gotten so far apart that productive conversation is impossible.

Consider the stack of presuppositions that someone like LazerPig would have to break down to figure out the core difference between himself and an avowed antisemitic neo-Nazi. I believe i know what that difference is.

"Liberals" like LazerPig believe that: (1) things used to be ok, (2) things are better now, and (3) things will continue to be ok and get better.
"Conservative" normies believe that: (1) things used to be ok, (2) things are worse now, and (3) things could get better with some change.
"Extremists" believe that: (1) things used to be fucked, (2) things are really fucked, and (3) things will get so incredibly fucked.

I believe this is the fundamental difference, and it's because it is a presupposition based on how you feel. If you don't feel like things are OK, how you view a myriad of things is different. Same with your opinion of the recent past (esp before your lifetime that you did not experience) and optimism for the future. These three feelings dictate how you will analyze facts presented to you. LazerPig, and all men, build what they believe to be true based on how they feel about the trajectory of their society. If you feel like things are doing poorly, you will quickly realize you have very little in agreement with someone who feels things are doing quite well.

That is the core difference, and LazerPig falls very neatly alongside Destiny. I've previously said that Destiny is the political alignment he is because there is no other timeline where Destiny would be paid millions of dollars and offered an endless buffet of BPD pussy other than the timeline we currently live in. LazerPig, as a gross fat homosexual, is in an identical situation. That is why they love the status quo and want more of it.

If LazerPig allowed himself to think things are getting worse because of domestic policy, especially contemporary policy like mass immigration, then you open the door to reform. Radical change could result in their gravy train and bug chasing adventures ending in a mass grave under one of two red flags. For someone like him, he has to completely shut down any change. In order to be a gay bear backpacking and bugchasing across a worry-free Europe that is a stranger to war, Europe must remain liberal, it must be a part of NATO, and NATO must continue to dominate the entire world to maintain Pax Americana.

The mild conservative is willing to undo a lot of things, even if it means throwing out gay marriage and 30 million immigrants. That threatens the gay bathroom cruising and BPD pussy chasing lifestyles of LP & Destiny. The extremist will go so far as to say the wrong side won World War 2 and want to undo everything since the New Deal. That's an even bigger threat, which is why taking that position must be linked with the Holocaust and Russia (as these two spooks create the foundation for our understanding of our country's past and present).

This is also why I think so many young minorities become socialists under the Hasan banner. They don't believe that the past was OK, as believing the past was OK means that colonialism and racism was OK. As they're not from that era of our history, there's nothing of it they wish to conserve. So since they don't like the past, and no young person is doing well in the present, they turn to socialism.

This just feels like venting. He's trying to convince people that the status quo is a good thing, actually. Meanwhile, the young minds (dumb Timmy) is not debating minutia of how to help black people achieve more, or how to train police better: they're talking about either installing afro-centric communism vs. deporting every dark skinned person to Africa, or abolishing the police vs. instituting a police state to get rid of the mexicans. He concludes on saying "send me your pepe because I lost the culture war", which is true. He did.
 
Jersh, no one watches online debates for the actual facts, it's to see who can roast each other better. Every filmed debate on the Internet (since the creation of websites like Youtube and Dailymotion and so on) have always been gladiator blood sports to see which side of a debate can roast each other better on stage.

In fact even Kiwi Farms is guilty of this too because whenever a controversial topic pops up on Kiwi Farms, half the of the Kiwis call each other faggots rather than caring about being objective on who is actually objectively right; I see far too many of the Kiwis being incapable in not resorting to gish galloping (basically bringing up stupid questions to overwhelm your opponent in a debate so that you can "win" a debate and this is very dishonest), red herrings (they always find a way to make it about the Jews or troons somehow), ad hominem attacks (the classic calling someone a 'faggot' or a 'cuck' with usually no real argument to back it up), and blind appeal to authority (like blindly using religion to argue for or against something as well as praising badly written laws your average Kiwi finds "Based" and never mind the ethics).

It takes a lot longer to refute a stupid argument than it does to make said stupid argument which is why some dishonest people will gish gallop knowing fully well an argument is timed and their opponent doesn't have enough time to refute said dumbass argument, bringing up irrelevant shit in an argument (like troons) is not a winning argument, calling someone a faggot because you're losing an argument is a classic case of 'Feels Over Reals' (how you feel about anything is subjective and learn to take the L when you're losing), arguments from religion are usually weak ass arguments that it's easy for someone much more educated can easily look at almost any arguments from religion and tear them to shreds, and ethics doesn't come from law (if this was the case then genocide being legal in some countries would be seen as ethical then; good luck trying to convince a sane person that genocide being legal in some parts of the world is somehow ethical).

Jersh isn't wrong when he says that online debates are usually just slapfights (nobody really watches post-debates featuring actual experts that know their stuff that can fact check both sides for a reason because to your average person the charts and facts are not as interesting compared to two guys on stage hurling insults at each other) but Jersh and the Kiwis are not free of this midwittery either where Kiwi Farms does the same thing with just about any controversial topic they discuss.
 
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ipreferpickles said:
I think that has more to do with the userbase starting to become younger than anything to do with women. Young people online are starting to become more disdainful of video games, anime and sexual content.
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The only people I see online that make a big stink about video games, anime, and sexual content in general are either retarded feminists/radfems and other retarded Leftoids that are still stuck in 2014 and still believe in the Anita Sarkessian grift (the 'Everything is racist, everything is sexist, and everything is homophobic and you have to point it all out' grift that was pushed by lefty grifters like Anita Sarkessian at the time) as well as retarded tradcons and other dumbass Rightoids that think the video game industry and countries like Japan somehow have an obligation to make "Christian Content" for them and the Rightoids rehash old Jack Thompson boomer grifter talking points to justify their nonsense.

Video games are now a multi-billion dollar industry as well as anime and manga are very popular with young people.

The only people that make a big stink about youth culture are losers and midwits that already adopt an extremist ideology that wish to recruit said young people into their said bullshit extremist ideologies.

To your average young person, the Far-Left and the Far-Right are gay and lame to them because the two extremes attack the hobbies they like and enjoy.
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young people not liking anime? the only people i know that watch anime during their lunch breaks are in their 20s. this whole "based youth" faggotry is up there with "immigrants are natural conservatives" its mostly a myth based on weird boomers trying to talk to younger people and them not wanting to discuss that shit with them.

i remember in the bush era when people genuinely said "young people don't like smoking weed" either. Next you'll tell me young people don't vape or do nicotine pouches.
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The whole "Gen Z is the most recent conservative generation" is just that, a meme much like the 'Year of the Linux Desktop' meme but at least Linux has a better chance of reaching mainstream popularity unlike Gen Z where they are not a monolith when it comes to politics (no generation is a monolith).

The only reason why some boomers and tradcons think Gen Z is "Right-wing" is because they found some Zoomers adopting right-wing views (like Nick Fuentes). The problem with this way of thinking is that it's a confirmation bias just because they found some Zoomers holding right-wing views. This is just as laughably retarded with Communists where they try to argue that Eastern Europe is becoming communist again just because they found a few legit commies living in Eastern Europe when most Eastern Europeans already have a favorable view of capitalism and liberal democracy and they don't want to go back to communism.

If anything, current satsistics show that Gen Z are far more likely to be progressive on various social-political issues much like with their Millennial and Gen X counterparts where many Zoomers are still more than willing to support LGBT rights and support establishing a universal taxpayer healthcare system in the United States (two things that most on the American Right oppose).

As for immigrants, the conservative boomers and the tradcons are right that immigrants are conservative but not for the reasons they think. Those conservative immigrants usually come from impoverished third-world countries or second-world countries that are only getting started in becoming a developed nation.

Why are most first-world countries secular and progressive leaning? Liberal democracy prohibits the establishment of state sponsored religion, innovations through Capitalism has made the lives of those living in the first-world a lot easier, and advancements in science and technology (motivated by capitalism) has taken away the power from the church (if your arm gets broken then you go to a hospital where doctors can heal you up in no time so there is far less of a need to visit a house of worship and pray that your arm heals on its own).

Sure you have some developed countries that are seen as conservative (Japan, South Korea, Singapore) but they're an exception and not the rule.

In order to make America into a tradcon nation then you would have to abolish the U.S. Constitution (the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of state sponsored religion), abolish Capitalism and replace it with an economic model that allows the state to have more control over people (Fascism, Corporatism, Feudalism, Christian Socialism, pick your poison), and abolish all technologies invented after the 15th century that allow the mass distribution of information freely (the printing press is part of the reason why the church began to lose its power over Western society, so abolish the printing press and you may as well abolish the Internet while you're at it in order for the church to once again have more control over the flow of information). Of course abolishing capitalism and abolishing liberal democracy are very unpopular ideas in the Western world so this not going to happen anytime soon.

Notice how the conservative immigrants come from countries that have corrupt governments and are underdeveloped so they practice whatever is their own culture's version of a rain dance (religion) in the hope of a better tomorrow and meanwhile your average first-worlder doesn't need to do a rain dance because they are presented with many opportunities to have a better life.

I can pretty much guarantee that the same conservative immigrant communities living in the first-world will eventually become moderate or even progressive because the future generations for those said immigrant communities will have far less reasons to continue the conservative traditions of their ancestors as they embrace first-world living that makes their lives a lot easier (the grandchildren for the browns will have far less reasons to practice their parent's rain dance for a better life).

The only reason why most boomer conservatives and most tradcons don't want to be honest with this is because they know that for their ideals to be realized then they have to establish authoritarianism to get their tradcon nation (becaue liberal democracy and tradcon ideals are like oil and water, they don't mix no matter how hard you mix them together). If any of the boomer conservatives and the tradcons were really honest about their praxis to the general public then most people will simply be turned off by said tradcon ideals because the general public would understand the horrific logical conclusion of said tradcon ideals. The only right-wingers that are honest about this are neo-Nazis and white supremacists because they openly acknowledge that liberal democracy and capitalism gets in the way of getting what they want (liberal democracy prevents authoritarianism and capitalism has made humanity's lives so much easier that it gives less people a reason to say 'Heil Hitler' because they're far too busy doing Netflix and Chill with a signifagant other that they won't even bother to read Mein Kampf).

"I don't care about your extremist ideology and I don't want to do the Roman Salute, I just want to grill and be with my family."
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Obscenity2022 said:
"immigrants are natural conservatives"
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Immigrants are conservative in their own countries, but super lefty liberal in yours.

thefrogninja said:
If you're wondering why Josh hasn't been dilating on X, he said on MATI he was banned for celebrating harm on Congressman Mitch McConnell. He appealed 3 days ago and is still waiting.
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Just in time for Lidls return!
 
Josh, “a good person,” received a message from Rekieta around noon on Easter Sunday, telling him he had to delete the MN Public Records post because it was a site violation. For those not in the know Kiwifarms user MNPublicRecords is a bad actor who will illegally leak court documents. Josh replied: "Stop cheating on your wife." Rekieta responded: "I have never cheated on my wife. She always consented." Josh then quotes the Bible, a book he doesn't believe in, to prove it's cheating.


How does the capital I internet define cheating?
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Obscenity2022 said:
null decided to implement private profiles all for her too.
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It's almost like null is catering the site for himself so he can post on it like a normal user while still having control. It's like having your cake and eating it too. And since it's his tranny persona he doesn't even have to make a new personality.
 
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