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KF Miscellaneous 𝓚𝓲𝔀𝓲 Ways Kiwis Are Like the SJWs of 2015

Kiwifarms related threads that do not appear to fit in any other thread prefix.

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1. No concept of gray or nuance. You either agree with every take, no matter how deranged, or you're immediately assumed to be taking HRT. You don't agree with some idiot's theory that black people are basically the real-life version of the Kender from Dragonlance (a race that realistically should not have survived and only do so due to massive plot armor)? You must be a troon.

2. Constant messaging that their enemy (in this case, "troons") are always close to winning and we must resist them as hard was we can, which they use to reinforce the first point. This despite the fact that "troons" are no more likely to dominate America than "Nazis" were in 2015 (and in fact, in 2025 most of the public is turning against gender ideology). If you ever look outside their hangout you quickly realize most of what they're saying is bullshit, but they're hoping you never do.

3. Inability to learn from the past. The SJWs saw the public turn against the Religious Right for their hardcore stances against things like Dungeons & Dragons and Harry Potter, and how quickly Jack Thompson became a laughing stock... and decided "hey, we should emulate that!" The Kiwifarms saw the SJWs doing that, saw how it caused societal backlash (to the point where even Roe v Wade got overturned) and decided "doing the same things they do will make this a Christian nation again!" Hello dumbasses--if it failed for two previous generations then it will fail for you as well.

4. Corallory to the above: when they do fail, neither Kiwis nor SJWs ever accept that maybe it's because they dun fucked up--instead they always flip the script and say "see? our failure is proof that the enemy is just that strong!" They will then flip this into a call to fight even harder (when what they should be doing is self-examination).

5. Their denial of their issues ("Kiwis are moralfags? Whatever - could - you - mean?") and also they use a lot of the exact same excuses that SJWs used ("if you keep running into certain type of people you must have intentionally sought them out!" "You'll only have problems if you say something problematic!")

6. The hypersensitivity they display to any media that is not explicitly written to conform and expound their views. They actually take this farther than SJWs do--whereas SJWs thought it was okay to have fun, but only with party-approved things, Kiwis think you should not have fun at all and should be just drinking and working all the time, and that literally any and all recreation is a gateway to "trooning out". Just see the links I posted in the previous point.

(NOTE: They'll make an exception if a certain work is known to be by a Christian author like Tolkien, but I suspect this has more to do with optics than genuine belief--telling people that LOTR will make you troon out would just immediately reveal Kiwis as a bunch of crazies).

7. Both have gaslit themselves into hyperfocusing on niche issues that really don't matter that much in most people's day to day lives, but which they've convinced themselves that the future of civilization depends upon. SJWs were concerned with how women and minorities were treated in video games. Kiwi Farms are obsessed with whether or not some people millions of miles away can do body-alterations. Whoever wins has absolutely no effect on whether or not I can put food on the table today or other things that, you know, actually matter.

8. The way the leader of their preferred party absolutely dictates what they think about and consider important, regardless of whether it actually is important, or if it straight-up contradicts what they were all about last week. In Kiwis case, there's two authorities they recognize: Null and Trump. If Trump comes out next week and says he wants to hand out SNAP benefits, they'll suddenly start saying "SNAP is good, ackshually!" when they all had literally been wishing death on SNAP users the week before.

9. Both are obsessed with a word that begins with the letter N. In SJWs case that word is "Nazi." You can guess what the Kiwi n-word is. And both absolutely love to spam it to the point that you get sick of hearing it (and both will take "I'm tired of hearing it" as confirmation that you're guilty of wrongthink).

10. Resorting to armchair psychobabble to explain why you disagree with them. "You're just a media addict!" is the Kiwifarms version of "you're just protecting your privilege!"

Did I miss anything?
 
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yes you have forgot one important detail, they LOVE claim everyone they dislike is pedophile. Whenever it's true or not.
 
yes you have forgot one important detail, they LOVE claim everyone they dislike is pedophile. Whenever it's true or not.
Thanks. Not only is this true but it actually reminded me of a greater point.

10. The Sex Obsession. SJWs were obsessed with sex (we all remember how often they would drag people's nether regions into pretty much any discussion), and so are Kiwis--note how much of their moralfinagling revolves around what people are "cranking" to. There's also a minor point that a great number of people on both sides turned out to be sexual degenerates.
 
Thanks. Not only is this true but it actually reminded me of a greater point.

10. The Sex Obsession. SJWs were obsessed with sex (we all remember how often they would drag people's nether regions into pretty much any discussion), and so are Kiwis--note how much of their moralfinagling revolves around what people are "cranking" to. There's also a minor point that a great number of people on both sides turned out to be sexual degenerates.
Should also write down their hypocrisy.
 
I finally realized what @SpaceStationRubber was getting at.

11. Both SJWs and Kiwis have a tendency towards "rules for thee, but not for me." They will expound at length about things other sites do that are so bad and wrong, and then turn around and do exactly the things they're calling out others for. Speaking for myself, the thing I most notice is Kiwis always go on about the low quality/low intelligence of posters in places like Reddit, but then KF itself is overrun by autistic manchildren who often can't string coherent thoughts together and have clearly never had a real conversation before.

(I've also heard rumors of people getting banned for wrongthink despite KF lauding itself as a home of free speech, but I can't vouch for this personally).
 
I finally realized what @SpaceStationRubber was getting at.

11. Both SJWs and Kiwis have a tendency towards "rules for thee, but not for me." They will expound at length about things other sites do that are so bad and wrong, and then turn around and do exactly the things they're calling out others for. Speaking for myself, the thing I most notice is Kiwis always go on about the low quality/low intelligence of posters in places like Reddit, but then KF itself is overrun by autistic manchildren who often can't string coherent thoughts together and have clearly never had a real conversation before.

(I've also heard rumors of people getting banned for wrongthink despite KF lauding itself as a home of free speech, but I can't vouch for this personally).
BINGO you got it right
 
(I've also heard rumors of people getting banned for wrongthink despite KF lauding itself as a home of free speech, but I can't vouch for this personally).
Long-time user SSJNess was banned and labeled a pedophile for advocating his belief that a 13 year old who "dressed slutty" could be at least partly responsible for being raped. That is a pretty fucked up view but is a logical conclusion for the extremist beliefs many Kiwis hold.

Advocating that lolicon should be legal is, I believe, now a bannable offense on Kiwi Farms, even though Null held that position as recently as 2022. I may be wrong on that part, however.

Criticizing Null too much is also a bannable offense despite Null wanting to be a political figure and having an alleged charity. You cannot even debate him over weight loss or his taste in cheese without risking a ban.
 
Long-time user SSJNess was banned and labeled a pedophile for advocating his belief that a 13 year old who "dressed slutty" could be at least partly responsible for being raped. That is a pretty fucked up view but is a logical conclusion for the extremist beliefs many Kiwis hold.

Advocating that lolicon should be legal is, I believe, now a bannable offense on Kiwi Farms, even though Null held that position as recently as 2022. I may be wrong on that part, however.

Criticizing Null too much is also a bannable offense despite Null wanting to be a political figure and having an alleged charity. You cannot even debate him over weight loss or his taste in cheese without risking a ban.

That alone would cause Null to ban a significant percentage of the anime community if they were on his forum. Many of the weebs who think loli is the most disgusting thing on earth don't want it to be criminalized due to potential collateral damage. (Real example: Some SAO volumes and No Game No Life got caught up in Australia's anti-loli law.)

Not everyone who is against it's criminalization is a lolicon themselves, but KF will just make assumptions anyhow.
 
Thought of a new one.

12. Both are harmful to their own stated positions. One of the biggest "accomplishments" of SJWs was that their push against racists and Nazis actually succeeded in creating more actual racists and Nazis. With Kiwis, what I've most experienced is that they actually justify a lot of what I used to believe were strawman arguments--the guys who think there are people who just want to be really racist without consequences. Kiwis are literally those people and they make all other Christian Conservatives look bad by claiming to be on their side. Literally Kiwis make it so that anyone who is conservative and not insane has to fight uphill not only against the Left, but against the idiots in their own faction.
 
That alone would cause Null to ban a significant percentage of the anime community if they were on his forum. Many of the weebs who think loli is the most disgusting thing on earth don't want it to be criminalized due to potential collateral damage. (Real example: Some SAO volumes and No Game No Life got caught up in Australia's anti-loli law.)

Not everyone who is against it's criminalization is a lolicon themselves, but KF will just make assumptions anyhow.
There probably are people who agree with that on Kiwi Farms, but they never voice that view because why would you want a target on your back for when the ShitKiwifarmsSays Mass Debates brigade decides to cancel you in a callout thread?
 
I'm thinking of doing a rewrite/version 2 of this whole list (too bad you can't edit the OP) but for now I'll just throw in the following:

13. The tendency to resort to labels in lieu of actual discussion. Disagree with a Kiwi and expect to be called a pedo, troon, media addict, or a litany of slurs.

14. The repeated insistence that they are about "Free Speech" when in actuality you get punished for any view that goes outside the narrow range of "correct opinions" allowed within their echo chamber. Also in both cases both will have moments where they admit they actually don't care much about "free speech."
 
Weirdly I just thought of a new one:

15. Both SJWs and Kiwis believe in media being "coded." SJWs would say characters are "gay coded" meanwhile Kiwis list a whole bunch of different "codings" things can have.

This especially stands out to me as I recall Kiwis used to say the whole concept of "coding" was stupid, and now they go along with it.
 
Jersh and half of the Kiwis have their own version of the "Male Gaze" concept only they just call it "Degeneracy".

If you know anything about feminism, one of the things that feminists in general preach is the "Male Gaze" which preaches that stuff like sex, fan service, or anything else that men may like is expanding the "Patriarchy". So many feminists believe that anything that men may remotely like has to be heavily censored in order to expand feminist thought in the Western world to make the world a "better place" for women.

What feminists preach requires an authoritarian dictatorship so they can have things their way.

We've saw the feminist praxis in action over the past few years with video games, movies, and television where there was a huge push to make media more queer and women friendly (which required covering up female characters in media, demonizing men, and discouraging heterosexuality). Now and days you don't see this much anymore as the general public gave a lot of backlash towards the entertainment studios for them to finally start dropping the DEI and feminist crap like a hot potato (because a transsexual lesbian protagonist that hates men and hates Western civilization doesn't make any money).

With the Kiwis you see the same thing. Jersh and half of the Kiwis demonize things like video games, anime, and porn because they believe these things like fan service in anime, anime female characters showing skin in a video game, and porn is what is going to lead to the downfall of the West and other stupid talking points from the Kiwis that makes them no different than left-wing feminists.

Then again, Jersh is a retarded radfem so his radfem ideals trickled down to the rest of the Kiwis which is why the Kiwis look and sound like 2015-era SJWs.

The only main difference between the Kiwis and the feminists is where they stand on the political spectrum. Same censorship-happy shit, different ideology.
 
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