Joining The Army

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

I'm not just going to roll over and take a "grunt or nothing" mindset either.

Well, fuck you too.

Yeah, I am going to end up with GED and need waivers, but that doesn't mean I can't train, pass selection, or prove I'm dependable. Ranger regiment isn't SEAL Team 6, they take people who have their shit together, not just the best of the best, it's not delta. You don't need to be a valedictorian or have a perfect past, you just need to have grit, be reliable and committed. That's what I'm working on.


If I get denied? That's fine, I'll take whatever mos I can and crush it. But I'm not going to pre emptively self disqualify myself just because some people think only perfect people can do hard things. If anything, I think having something to prove matters more.

If I fall short, at least I won't be stuck wondering what could've happened if I actually tried.

Hey I'm not saying don't try, I'm just saying that dependability and grit and determination or whatever are a big part of what they look for... But they also look at your background as a whole.

All I'm saying is don't set yourself up for disappointment. And stop acting like being a grunt is the equivalent of being the underneath guys. We're the ones who get shit DONE. We're the last motherfuckers you see before you meet Satan and find out the 72 the virgins thing was a lie.

Besides, a purple heart is WAY cooler than whatever bullshit medals the other dorks get.

 

[Bear Hammer]

We're the last motherfuckers you see before you meet Satan and find out the 72 the virgins thing was a lie.

COLD

Hey I'm not saying don't try, I'm just saying that dependability and grit and determination or whatever are a big part of what they look for... But they also look at your background as a whole.

All I'm saying is don't set yourself up for disappointment. And stop acting like being a grunt is the equivalent of being the underneath guys. We're the ones who get shit DONE. We're the last motherfuckers you see before you meet Satan and find out the 72 the virgins thing was a lie.

Besides, a purple heart is WAY cooler than whatever bullshit medals the other dorks get.

I'm not shitting on infantry, didn't mean to come across like that. I've looked into it more, I know those are the people who get sent in first, who take the hits, and usually who end up with stories worth telling.

But no offense unc, we are in peacetime, the infantry isn't earning any purple hearts right now, they are currently doing nothing but doing PT and playing in the woods, with usually very slow promotion. And it doesn't look like they are going to do anything soon since it doesn't seem like war is close anyway.

Rangers are actually doing the job still, raids, real world missions, always training at a higher standard. If I'm going to bust my ass and eat dirt anyway, I'd rather do it with people who are still in the fight.

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

COLD


I'm not shitting on infantry, didn't mean to come across like that. I've looked into it more, I know those are the people who get sent in first, who take the hits, and usually who end up with stories worth telling.

But no offense unc, we are in peacetime, the infantry isn't earning any purple hearts right now, they are currently doing nothing but doing PT and playing in the woods, with usually very slow promotion. And it doesn't look like they are going to do anything soon since it doesn't seem like war is close anyway.

Rangers are actually doing the job still, raids, real world missions, always training at a higher standard. If I'm going to bust my ass and eat dirt anyway, I'd rather do it with people who are still in the fight.

You're selling it short, cousin. I'm telling you it's only a matter of time before we goose step into Gaza.

 

[Jazz_is_Immortal!]

Just because you were such a pussy you chose to be a cook doesn't make me a mongoloid for walking through crowds of Iraqis with my M16 and a gigantic set of balls, catching dirty looks from the locals and wondering if today was the day.

Nah this is a real mans job one fuckup and you lose a limb.

That said infantry is up their and again the morons on Kiwi shows they don't know what the fuck they are talking about with common infrantry being dumb. With modern warfare being heavily integrated with tech and various other roles it requires a high school level education and further training outside of boot camp.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Thats true. Any infantry grunt needs to understand the use and maintenance of half a dozen weapon systems alongside tactical training, first aid, navigation and decorum as well as upholding the mental and physical standards necessary to complete their given task. You will be groomed for leadership, adaptability and rigorous physicality. Theres no room for chafing.

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

Nah this is a real mans job one fuckup and you lose a limb.

You wouldn't catch me working on those to save my fucking life. The two things to this day that still scare the fuck out of me are hearing an airstrike and the "INCOMING INCOMING INCOMING" from a C-Ram before it plays the symphony of hell.

Thats true. Any infantry grunt needs to understand the use and maintenance of half a dozen weapon systems alongside tactical training, first aid, navigation and decorum as well as upholding the mental and physical standards necessary to complete their given task. You will be groomed for leadership, adaptability and rigorous physicality. Theres no room for chafing.

Real shit. You have to be trained in hand to hand, all the weapons you'll have in the field, a cursory understanding of other weapons, local customs, how to nig rig at the drop of a hat, basic field medicine, radio protocols, where to buy black market stuff, what stuff to get sent to you from people back home (silly string saved our asses lol), and a myriad of other things that I can't even think of off the top of my head.

Factor that in with the idea that at any second an IED can hit the Humvee you're riding in and fucking melt you alive into the seat, or somebody could detonate a suicide vest or cell phone bomb every time you're at a marketplace or raiding a house, or a firefight could break out literally at any second.

And the shitty thing is, there's NOTHING you can do to prep your mind for that. Anybody who says it got easier is just trying to sound like a badass. Every single time something popped off, your legs would turn into spaghetti, your stomach would drop into your asshole, your hands would shake, your gear would weigh 300 pounds and your mind is shrieking "I don't want to die I don't want to die please God don't let me die oh my God I'm going to die"

And that's why they run you so hard and break you in BT. Your drill Sergeant is literally factory resetting the bitch out of you. You will still have that cowardly scared shitless freak out, but because of getting the instructions knocked into you so many times you'll go into autopilot and just let Betty chatter.

Lol, I nicknamed my rifle "Betty" and my sidearm "Veronica" like the Archie girls. I was so fucking bummed they wouldn't let me take them home, even if they were deactivated

 

[Ashley Hutsell JankowskiAshley Hutsell Jankowski is verified member.]

You wouldn't catch me working on those to save my fucking life. The two things to this day that still scare the fuck out of me are hearing an airstrike and the "INCOMING INCOMING INCOMING" from a C-Ram before it plays the symphony of hell.

Real shit. You have to be trained in hand to hand, all the weapons you'll have in the field, a cursory understanding of other weapons, local customs, how to nig rig at the drop of a hat, basic field medicine, radio protocols, where to buy black market stuff, what stuff to get sent to you from people back home (silly string saved our asses lol), and a myriad of other things that I can't even think of off the top of my head.

Factor that in with the idea that at any second an IED can hit the Humvee you're riding in and fucking melt you alive into the seat, or somebody could detonate a suicide vest or cell phone bomb every time you're at a marketplace or raiding a house, or a firefight could break out literally at any second.

And the shitty thing is, there's NOTHING you can do to prep your mind for that. Anybody who says it got easier is just trying to sound like a badass. Every single time something popped off, your legs would turn into spaghetti, your stomach would drop into your asshole, your hands would shake, your gear would weigh 300 pounds and your mind is shrieking "I don't want to die I don't want to die please God don't let me die oh my God I'm going to die"

And that's why they run you so hard and break you in BT. Your drill Sergeant is literally factory resetting the bitch out of you. You will still have that cowardly scared shitless freak out, but because of getting the instructions knocked into you so many times you'll go into autopilot and just let Betty chatter.

Lol, I nicknamed my rifle "Betty" and my sidearm "Veronica" like the Archie girls. I was so fucking bummed they wouldn't let me take them home, even if they were deactivated

Who in their right mind would be impressed by anything this loser faggot did ever lol

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

Who in their right mind would be impressed by anything this loser faggot did ever lol

Who in their right mind would be impressed by anything this loser faggot impersonating another loser lol

 

[Jazz_is_Immortal!]

You wouldn't catch me working on those to save my fucking life. The two things to this day that still scare the fuck out of me are hearing an airstrike and the "INCOMING INCOMING INCOMING" from a C-Ram before it plays the symphony of hell.

Real shit. You have to be trained in hand to hand, all the weapons you'll have in the field, a cursory understanding of other weapons, local customs, how to nig rig at the drop of a hat, basic field medicine, radio protocols, where to buy black market stuff, what stuff to get sent to you from people back home (silly string saved our asses lol), and a myriad of other things that I can't even think of off the top of my head.

Factor that in with the idea that at any second an IED can hit the Humvee you're riding in and fucking melt you alive into the seat, or somebody could detonate a suicide vest or cell phone bomb every time you're at a marketplace or raiding a house, or a firefight could break out literally at any second.

And the shitty thing is, there's NOTHING you can do to prep your mind for that. Anybody who says it got easier is just trying to sound like a badass. Every single time something popped off, your legs would turn into spaghetti, your stomach would drop into your asshole, your hands would shake, your gear would weigh 300 pounds and your mind is shrieking "I don't want to die I don't want to die please God don't let me die oh my God I'm going to die"

And that's why they run you so hard and break you in BT. Your drill Sergeant is literally factory resetting the bitch out of you. You will still have that cowardly scared shitless freak out, but because of getting the instructions knocked into you so many times you'll go into autopilot and just let Betty chatter.

Lol, I nicknamed my rifle "Betty" and my sidearm "Veronica" like the Archie girls. I was so fucking bummed they wouldn't let me take them home, even if they were deactivated

Plus all that stuff and with all of the drone and squad implementation computer tools forget the fucking term but that shit is here now like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfare granted the smart hud the Army is testing is shit and the new riffle is like the M14 all over again. But the drone and integrated Warfare that shit is here just look at Ukraine and Israel with how Palestine fought Israel using drones before they got there fucking asses kicked rightfully so I might add fuck the libtards supporting Hamas and Palestine but anywho. You need to not be a idiot anymore those days of infrantry being dumbassess are long gone dead by the gulf war because that's when the modern integrated fighting started.

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

Plus all that stuff and with all of the drone and squad implementation computer tools forget the fucking term but that shit is here now like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfare granted the smart hud the Army is testing is shit and the new riffle is like the M14 all over again. But the drone and integrated Warfare that shit is here just look at Ukraine and Israel with how Palestine fought Israel using drones before they got there fucking asses kicked rightfully so I might add fuck the libtards supporting Hamas and Palestine but anywho. You need to not be a idiot anymore those days of infrantry being dumbassess are long gone dead by the gulf war because that's when the modern integrated fighting started.

I would say by the time I joined up in late '03 that whole "only stupid people join infantry" stigma had been dead and buried for decades. The last time infantry even allowed people with lower IQs to join was when we were short on manpower in Vietnam.

Just from my experience, most kiwi farm users would have gotten killed if they were in infantry because they are too socially retarded to learn customs, learn even the most cursory Arabic phrases, or read the room well enough to save their own lives while they were there.

Those people didn't have the social cues we did to learn almost immediately that you never touch a woman with your hands, or that if you win the kids over with candy typically you'll win their parents over, or what I learned on day three which was everybody should grow their mustaches out (in Iraq, your mustache is seen as a sign of machismo and other men will respect you more for having one)

So yeah I'll accept being called stupid for being in the infantry, as long as it's by a bunch of people who are autistic fuckwits that would have died in an easily avoidable firefight if they knew how to act like a human and not like Captain spectrum.

 

[Jazz_is_Immortal!]

Just from my experience, most kiwi farm users would have gotten killed if they were in infantry because they are too socially retarded to learn customs, learn even the most cursory Arabic phrases, or read the room well enough to save their own lives while they were there.

They wouldn't of graduated basic training they would of most likely washed out.

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

They wouldn't of graduated basic training they would of most likely washed out.

They say that infantry is stupid but most of them would have gotten a section 8 discharge for being autistics. The Army doesn't have time to train people who are half a retard.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

They say that infantry is stupid but most of them would have gotten a section 8 discharge for being autistics. The Army doesn't have time to train people who are half a retard.

Thats not entirely true. They like to reclass people into being cooks sometimes.

 

[mtil]

dressing up and marching is GAY, armies are HOMOSEXUAL CULTS at least the navy admits to this upfront

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

dressing up and marching is GAY, armies are HOMOSEXUAL CULTS at least the navy admits to this upfront

Yeah but usually you get to be the top so it's not even gay.

Plus the Army has strict vigorous rules where we have to say no homo before everyone begins.

I mean you can catch a dishonorable discharge if you don't say no homo. They make that very clear on the first day.

 

[Home]

I will never understand men’s insistence to immediately throw themselves into hardcore warfare the moment they become slightly bored with their lives. “I have no direction in life” then find one, there’s so many things you can do before dying in Iraq.

Though reading through this thread this seems like something you’re already pretty deep into and something you genuinely want to do. If it’s a genuine desire then I support it wholeheartedly.

 

[Bear Hammer]

I will never understand men’s insistence to immediately throw themselves into hardcore warfare the moment they become slightly bored with their lives.

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

I will never understand men’s insistence to immediately throw themselves into hardcore warfare the moment they become slightly bored with their lives. “I have no direction in life” then find one, there’s so many things you can do before dying in Iraq.

Though reading through this thread this seems like something you’re already pretty deep into and something you genuinely want to do. If it’s a genuine desire then I support it wholeheartedly.

I can't speak for bear, but they really worked us up into a fever pitch after 9/11. I remember being so fucking down to go as soon as that second plane hit the tower. They didn't even need to send recruiters to the high school, there was a line at the recruitment office.

It didn't take a lot of convincing to get kids my age to join. Plus if you come from a military family it's almost a rite of passage, you don't want to be the first chicken shit who didn't enlist and breaks the combo lol.

 

[Bear Hammer]

I honestly just want meaning and respect from other people, with the added bonus of potentially killing terrorists.

I mostly really want to prove to myself that I matter. The military, especially special operations, offers a very clear path: suffer, grow, earn respect. No ambiguity, that's it. Just you, your limits, and whether you can overcome them. That kind of structure, pain, and meaning is addicting when you've lived most of your life feeling like a joke or a disappointment.

 

[Iyo SkyIyo Sky is verified member.]

I honestly just want meaning and respect from other people, with the added bonus of potentially killing terrorists.

I mostly really want to prove to myself that I matter. The military, especially special operations, offers a very clear path: suffer, grow, earn respect. No ambiguity, that's it. Just you, your limits, and whether you can overcome them. That kind of structure, pain, and meaning is addicting when you've lived most of your life feeling like a joke or a disappointment.

Plus you'll have the tools and skills that they teach you. For me mild PTSD (I have the occasional anxiety attack every few months) was a sound trade off for everything they taught me and hooked me up with after discharge.