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Rebrand? You say that as if it’s not already socially unacceptable
It isn't. You're insane if you think people view having sex with someone over the age of consent who has finished puberty as the same thing as raping a toddler. Nobody outside of mentally ill people who live online cares if a guy in college is dating a 17 year old.
 
"Socially unacceptable" lol

I guess if mentally ill people on the internet have more weight in society than all the age of consent laws, coming of age ceremonies, public opinion
 
Fuck off. All you do is lie. You losers arent going to rebrand fucking a 17 year old as being as bad as raping a toddler.

Especially not from gay niggers like you
You seem to be the only one incapable of discerning the difference. You're the type of retard to advocate for toddlers having sex with each other like it's the thing to do and get mad when you're rightfully called out on it. Any parent would oppose your opinion unless they want their children to be groomed.
 
Reason: It's like this fucking idiot doesn't understand that you don't fully develop your impulse control and can't fully understand the relationship between cause and effect until you reach 25 years old and that problem gets worse the lower the age is. Ngmi
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It isn't. You're insane if you think people view having sex with someone over the age of consent who has finished puberty as the same thing as raping a toddler. Nobody outside of mentally ill people who live online cares if a guy in college is dating a 17 year old.
Federal law overrides state law. Federally the age of consent is 18 so any case can be pushed to a federal court in which case your "muh states rights" argument goes out the fucking window. No one gives a shit about state rights anymore because slavery was a state right. So everyone will think you're alt right lolbertarian adjacent if you advocate for them these days. Also your whole argument is "if it's legal then it's moral" so what about countries where AoC is 13. That too is not the same as a toddler. And if you say something something development again I will point out that even 18 year olds let alone 16 year olds are not fully developed mentally, that happens at 25. I'm in favor of raising age of consent to at least 21 or even 25 for everything from smoking and drinking to sex and joining the military.
 
"Socially unacceptable" lol

I guess if mentally ill people on the internet have more weight in society than all the age of consent laws, coming of age ceremonies, public opinion
You have more weight than most of society because you're a fat whore.
 
Federal law overrides state law. Federally the age of consent is 18 so any case can be pushed to a federal court in which case your "muh states rights" argument goes out the fucking window. No one gives a shit about state rights anymore because slavery was a state right. So everyone will think you're alt right lolbertarian adjacent if you advocate for them these days. Also your whole argument is "if it's legal then it's moral" so what about countries where AoC is 13. That too is not the same as a toddler. And if you say something something development again I will point out that even 18 year olds let alone 16 year olds are not fully developed mentally, that happens at 25. I'm in favor of raising age of consent to at least 21 or even 25 for everything from smoking and drinking to sex and joining the military.
No it doesn't. the states are the final authority in almost every criminal case that happens in the state. this is federalism 101.

the federal government is not just a national government. states are the supreme authority in their own right and handle criminal law almost all of the time. Feds have no jurisdiction on matters that take place inside a state that don't involve them.

nobody is being prosecuted for fucking a 16 year old in most of the US. it's just not happening. normal people dont care
Ok but they’re not over the age of consent
16 is the age of consent in most of the US. you're well aware of this and are choosing to deny reality because you dont like it
 
Pretty much what he said
If you're going to argue with me about this, the least you can do is not fuck up basic things every American who completed civics should know.

The federal age of consent ONLY applies on federally owned lands and interstate communications. They have no authority in criminal matters otherwise. That's the state's job. It doesn't become a federal offense until a minor is being sexually solicited online. The federal government cannot just cancel state laws it doesn't like. It also has no authority over criminal cases that do not involve federal matters. This is the supremacy clause.

There's also no precedent of wasting federal court's time by prosecuting young adults for having sex. So yeah. the federal government is not going after young adults for fucking
 
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No it doesn't. the states are the final authority in almost every criminal case that happens in the state. this is federalism 101.

the federal government is not just a national government. states are the supreme authority in their own right and handle criminal law almost all of the time. Feds have no jurisdiction on matters that take place inside a state that don't involve them.

nobody is being prosecuted for fucking a 16 year old in most of the US. it's just not happening. normal people dont care

16 is the age of consent in most of the US. you're well aware of this and are choosing to deny reality because you dont like it
You're wrong and stupid. Even the wiki article you posted without reading debunks you. It's in the constitution and was the real reason the civil war was fought. Ending slavery was only part of it. It was actually to prevent the USA from falling apart and that is why they made federal law override state law to keep it together and made state secession treason. Which brings the question confederate defenders will never answer. The state rights to do what? In that case it was owning people. In your case it's muh states rights to groom a child. Somehow that makes confederate defenders seem less bad than what you're doing lmao state secession is also treason btw

Don't believe me? Read bitch, read.
Supremacy Clause
Article VI
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.


This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.


The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
 
Reason: Try reading the constitution sometimes gypsy lolicon crusader
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If you're going to argue with me about this, the least you can do is not fuck up basic things every American who completed civics should know.

The federal age of consent ONLY applies on federally owned lands and interstate communications. They have no authority in criminal matters otherwise. That's the state's job. It doesn't become a federal offense until a minor is being sexually solicited online. The federal government cannot just cancel state laws it doesn't like. It also has no authority over criminal cases that do not involve federal matters. This is the supremacy clause.

There's also no precedent of wasting federal court's time by prosecuting young adults for having sex. So yeah. the federal government is not going after young adults for fucking
There is a reason children who distribute their own nudes still get charged with distribution and production of child pornography. You should have your hard drive checked. Groomer.
 
Now I'm not staying I would date Ishtar if she was 17 and I was 22, but if she was 22 and I was 17 I definitely would consider it 🥴 I like older chicks.
 
Everyone involved in this fucking thread are utterly defficient spastics.
Yes even me despite not posting there before. I do it now so it does count.

That being said: FUCKIN. CEASE. DEGENERACY.

Also AoC is murky waters and if somewhere in the world AoC is 12 and it's okay to marry a kid in a sence of written law doesn't mean it's actually okay to do so or have any kind of intercourse with an exception of vocal mentorship (ie school teachings or parental advisory and audit).

On topic of people over 18 to have something with 16-17 let me be clear. If 16-17 yo do something with someone 2-3 years older than them it's not much of a back thought for many people due to difference in age is not that big to care, for most of occasions. It's still irky, for a reason. Same can be told about someone of 23 years old having some feelings\relationship with teens of 16-17 but there is more complexity and not so obvious nuances to it. I've been there, unfortunately and not willingly on my end. When you have love in your life it's great, it becomes way less great or good by any measure when you get to know a person that you have developed feelings for was not, in fact, an adult person (said they were 18 when in reality it was not the case) and was deliberately lying to you using your situation against you.

Morale: don't let people grow on ya when you're at your lowest, both mentally and spiritually. Don't do any new connections at all, for good measure. You'll evade many problems this way. I wasn't that lucky to have such advice and had to pay my price for it.

Now I'm not staying I would date Ishtar if she was 17 and I was 22, but if she was 22 and I was 17 I definitely would consider it 🥴 I like older chicks.
Same, wouldn't mind if someone I might to love is 5-7 years older than me, we still can make it work.
 
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