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I've also thought that he was having problems in whatever country he was living in that made him leave, but no, I think he just fell for all the "Trump is going to usher in a golden age for America" talk the online right was doing and came back to get revenge via Trump on all the leftists who tried taking out Kiwi Farms. That's why he had such a massive meltdown when Trump said he was going to be bringing in Indians, it meant that he came back for nothing and is now stuck in a trailer park harassing the GOP into committing an ethnic cleansing against jeets.
Maybe but it doesn't track. He hates america, hates the american government, hates the american people, hates the american food. Does he ever give praise to america? He seems to gush and romantasice his time in europe quite a bit, which for a supposed america-o-phile is very weird. Especially given how often his fan base will slag off europe.

If he wasn't fucking kids, I can imagine he ran his mouth off to the wrong slav - because americans think they're big tough guys until they come across Ivan who gives no fucks, and null have to leave for his own safety. Or he refused to pay the mafia.

Probably fucking kids though to be honest because he must have been living like a king over there on the money he was stealing off of his fanbase.
 
Maybe but it doesn't track.
It does. Null is incredibly vindictive, practically everything he's done since returning to the US has been to get even with people and groups who have tried to ruin him or personally annoy him, and he's far from the only person who thought Trump was going to go scorched earth on the left. Null is also getting older, he's almost 40. He probably didn't want to die in a foreign country.
 
It does. Null is incredibly vindictive, practically everything he's done since returning to the US has been to get even with people and groups who have tried to ruin him or personally annoy him, and he's far from the only person who thought Trump was going to go scorched earth on the left. Null is also getting older, he's almost 40. He probably didn't want to die in a foreign country.
That still doesn't explain kiwiflare, or how if he is debanked he can still raise money. He has a full throng of people around him, from lawyers to accountants to network engineers.
He isn't one man sat in a room.
His life story and current situation is full of holes.
 
He hates america,
hates the american government,
hates the american people,
hates the american food.
No, he hates....
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White Power joshy....
Does he ever give praise to america?
No. He's yer typical Burger. Thick, self absorbed, and resentful.
to get even with people and groups who have tried to ruin him
Like the trannies. That blow he delivered to Dong Gone... forcing zhem to accept $140k, and making Vinny write that statement, about how COmmie Farms was defamatory.
 
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The culture that made Null all the more famous. Hating Transgenders people and Anime fans. They might as well call themselves Lolcow Stormfront, given they have lost their minds fast.

 
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The culture that made Null all the more famous. Hating Transgenders people and Anime fans. They might as well call themselves Lolcow Stormfront, given they have lost their minds fast.

>I already wanna fire bomb a car with regular anime decals on it. If I ever see a car with lolicon on it, I'm keying the fuck out of that car.

The feds do read Kiwi Farms, right? That is incitement to violence, this isn't some edgy free speech shit. That Kiwi is committing a federal crime by making a violent call to action.

Holy fuck, I'm convinced some of the people on Kiwi Farms are feds that are looking to entrap any retarded Kiwis this way.
 
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The culture that made Null all the more famous. Hating Transgenders people and Anime fans. They might as well call themselves Lolcow Stormfront, given they have lost their minds fast.

>I already wanna fire bomb a car with regular anime decals on it
>If I ever see a car with lolicon on it, I'm keying the fuck out of that car

Now I wanna send LavenderMenace into some itasha expo and see xhem try :story:
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Holy fuck, I'm convinced some of the people on Kiwi Farms are feds that are looking to entrap any retarded Kiwis this way.
It'sa honeypot, just like that 4chan turned into.

Latinlovr, Mound Dweller, CTRand Hey Johnny Bravo are fed accounts, I'm sure of it. Look how they come out of nowhere and post like they've been there for years, then rack up 10 posts a day consistently.

Watch them disappear over national holidays as well. "I've just been on holiday" when accounts disappear for a while. Call out an account that used to post regular that has gone silent and they will appear with "been away for a month, just got back today". It's feds swapping accounts.

None of the farms is natural or organic. Like why focus so much on lolicon and trannies? I thought jersh hated government over reach? Yet there's no mega threads or constantly highlighting that?

The epstien files were a dead giveaway. He had a community feature when they weren't getting released and every bit of information since has been radio silence.

Surely it isn't just me that sees how obvious it all is?
 
It is a compelling theory, I'll say that much. And ever since the DOGE findings I don't put anything beyond the feds.
I'll do the "do your own research" line.

I never venture into the lolcow pathetic side of the site, just Autistic thunderdome, where the news used to be informational.
Anyway, each topic has a set of handlers, posters who will turn up out of the fucking blue like they're monitoring the thread, ready to shoot down any conversation.

The conspiracy thread is highly regulated by two posters, I won't name who, but they chop and change who posts, never adding to the conversation, only shooting down and attempting to humiliate anyone who puts anti-fed theories forward.

CTR is the handler for mossad and israeli threads.

Mound Dweller and 1 other haunt the brit topics

Mad Stan is there to shoot down any anti-immigration talk

Latinlover - a poster who had an account made last year who has only just popped up and managed to get 8 posts a day in, is on point to shoot down anti-government messages.

Johnny Bravo is the USPG spaz who keeps the thread on point, or distracts it with retarded bullshit when a salient topic is discussed.

I don't enter the Ukie of Russo threads but I can bet good money they have handlers as well, not just pro or anti handlers, but those who keep 'the message' on point.

The happenings threads have no happenings in them, just topics that can be corralled into the rightthink opinion.

The TES and TDS threads are the same, they have anti-trump slants with a but and pro-trump slants with an if.

It's all very curated, especially compared to just 2 years ago. I fully believe the farms was sold out after COVID. It was the only place where the real truth was leaked and discussed openly. Imagine a covid like/lockdown/jab thread happening today?

Then finally, the bans. Null will make a public ban of some accounts and railroad others into logging off permanently, nobody is going to risk getting doxxed by some fat down syndrome pedophile for the sake of typing on said retards forum.

I'll make a bold prediction: Null will discourage the use of VPN's, as he needs the ad revenue (or some other excuse).
 
It'sa honeypot, just like that 4chan turned into.

Latinlovr, Mound Dweller, CTRand Hey Johnny Bravo are fed accounts, I'm sure of it. Look how they come out of nowhere and post like they've been there for years, then rack up 10 posts a day consistently.

Watch them disappear over national holidays as well. "I've just been on holiday" when accounts disappear for a while. Call out an account that used to post regular that has gone silent and they will appear with "been away for a month, just got back today". It's feds swapping accounts.

None of the farms is natural or organic. Like why focus so much on lolicon and trannies? I thought jersh hated government over reach? Yet there's no mega threads or constantly highlighting that?

The epstien files were a dead giveaway. He had a community feature when they weren't getting released and every bit of information since has been radio silence.

Surely it isn't just me that sees how obvious it all is?
Kiwi Farms has always been obsessed with trannies because tranny communities are full of absolute lolcows and disturbed psychopaths, and until a few years they got very little pushback in the mainstream. So no surprise that Kiwi Farms became a place you could vent about them and laugh at how stupid they were. The only difference is that back then, there was more engagement with laughing at individual trannies like the old Rat King board or Jonathan Yaniv's subforum, but now it is just yet more politics shite. You could laugh at trannies because they lived dumpster fire lives in general, like Phil/ADF being an Antifa hobo.

The lolicon thing is new, because old Kiwi Farms never cared much other than thinking it was disgusting. Josh defended the legality of lolicon as late as 2021 and believed it was nasty shit you had to just ignore if you wanted free speech. It may be that as the site has become dominated by Josh simps, lolicon has become a popular topic because Josh is obsessed with it himself due to being a repressed shotacon and blaming lolicons for the failure of 9chan. If Josh sperged as much over furries or adult diaper lovers, I bet Kiwi Farms would be obsessing over those groups too even when all those types of communities are just indistinguishable masses of porn addicts into gross shit.

But...I do think there is a lot of shilling done on Kiwi Farms. There were a few accounts during covid which would post government talking points about how great mask mandates, lockdowns, and the vaccine was. These accounts went silent around 2022. There have been several accounts dedicated almost solely to pushing Conservative Inc and Zionist views in every politics thread. Any conversation about China is dominated by sources from literal CIA-funded outlets like Epoch Times and China Uncensored and if you argue even a reasonable stance like "China has a large enough economy and enough stolen tech they are a serious danger to the US" you have several users waiting to correct the record. So there is clearly a push to manipulate Kiwi Farms into kosher-right talking points.
 
That still doesn't explain kiwiflare, or how if he is debanked he can still raise money. He has a full throng of people around him, from lawyers to accountants to network engineers.
He isn't one man sat in a room.
His life story and current situation is full of holes.
"kiwiflare" is just a variation of challenge.js

you download an image, hash it, return the hash and it does server side secret generation with the result. it takes about 800,000 - 1,500,000 attempts on your browsers end.

it was probably possible to pull cloudflare's original js challenge, download , inspect , and steal it the same way you can on kiwifarms' version right now.

cloudflare has since then moved to something called turnstile (challenges.cloudflare.com) and uses something more complicated and harder to rip off or inspect/disassemble now. but the thing they were using a couple of years ago would have been easy to steal and implement.

because of that, i cant compare them side by side and say whether it is in fact a copy of cloudflare's original challenge.js method

his method is not in fact an anti ddos, nor does it prevent scraping. once you have the SSSG token and xf_csrf you can scrape it or flood the server with as many automated requests as you want. You only need to use a real browser once, turn on development tools, click literally any link, "get curl command" and then insert your values for

sssg_clearance=
xf_csrf=

curl 'https://kiwifarms.st/threads/2025-12-01-roy-philipose-copyright-claims-board.234253/post-23133047' \
-H 'User-Agent: ShitZilla/5.0 (X11; LinSux x86_64; rv:666.0) Gecko/20100666 Firefox/666.0' \
-H 'Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8' \
-H 'Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5' \
-H 'Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd' \
-H 'DNT: 1' \
-H 'Sec-GPC: 1' \
-H 'Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-Dest: document' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-Mode: navigate' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-Site: same-origin' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-User: ?1' \
-H 'Connection: keep-alive' \
-H 'Cookie: sssg_clearance=XXXXXaXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXX-XXXX; xf_csrf=ZazazaZAza'

thats why cloudflare uses turnstile now.


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if you argue even a reasonable stance like "China has a large enough economy and enough stolen tech they are a serious danger to the US" you have several users waiting to correct the record.
You're spot on the money here. I once tried to reason that China, who make all of the consumerist crap for America, could turn off the factories and let half their population starve to death to spite the americans, before they bent the knee to any demands. That americas economy would collapse without chinesium and china could survive on its own food and selling to russia, was immediately corrected.
How I must be a pro-russian, putin-defending xinnie the pooh-loving shill.

Same thing happens with Russia as well, come to think about it. Any suggestion that russia isn't going to invade europe is met with hate and ire. Any suggestion that russia isn't interfering with domestic politics gets shit on.

teriyakiburns, implying and fedpostalservice are glowie accounts.
"kiwiflare" is just a variation of challenge.js

you download an image, hash it, return the hash and it does server side secret generation with the result. it takes about 800,000 - 1,500,000 attempts on your browsers end.

it was probably possible to pull cloudflare's original js challenge, download , inspect , and steal it the same way you can on kiwifarms' version right now.

cloudflare has since then moved to something called turnstile (challenges.cloudflare.com) and uses something more complicated and harder to rip off or inspect/disassemble now. but the thing they were using a couple of years ago would have been easy to steal and implement.

because of that, i cant compare them side by side and say whether it is in fact a copy of cloudflare's original challenge.js method

his method is not in fact an anti ddos, nor does it prevent scraping. once you have the SSSG token and xf_csrf you can scrape it or flood the server with as many automated requests as you want. You only need to use a real browser once, turn on development tools, click literally any link, "get curl command" and then insert your values for

sssg_clearance=
xf_csrf=

curl 'https://kiwifarms.st/threads/2025-12-01-roy-philipose-copyright-claims-board.234253/post-23133047' \
-H 'User-Agent: ShitZilla/5.0 (X11; LinSux x86_64; rv:666.0) Gecko/20100666 Firefox/666.0' \
-H 'Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8' \
-H 'Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5' \
-H 'Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd' \
-H 'DNT: 1' \
-H 'Sec-GPC: 1' \
-H 'Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-Dest: document' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-Mode: navigate' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-Site: same-origin' \
-H 'Sec-Fetch-User: ?1' \
-H 'Connection: keep-alive' \
-H 'Cookie: sssg_clearance=XXXXXaXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXX-XXXX; xf_csrf=ZazazaZAza'

thats why cloudflare uses turnstile now.


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Thank you for the informative write up.

Does this mean that josh stole code from another website to make it his own? Sounds kind of an illegal and indian thing to do.

Also, how did he manage that himself? Is it just an easy thing to do, and if so, why haven't big companies implemented their own cloudfare solution rather than pay cloudfare?
 

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