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[nobodyworthwhile]

There's a thought I've been having.

It's kind of weird to say, but it feels like when SSJ_Ness got banned, the soul of Kiwifarms died and the site truly entered its death throes.

I'm not gonna say Ness is innocent--he absolutely said stupid shit and deserved that ban--but the weird thing is that sometimes Ness could be the most reasonable person in the room.

I recall once talking about Ranma 1/2 with him, an anime where most Kiwis look at the premise and call it "tranny shit," but Ness was one of the few people who understood that something can have a gender-bend premise and not have anything to do with trans stuff.

And this was Kiwifarms in a nutshell: half the time it was stupid, the other half the time they were some of the most reasonable people online.

While the forum had been losing its mind before Ness was kicked, it feels like his booting accelerated it.

 

[Obscenity2022]

There's a thought I've been having.

It's kind of weird to say, but it feels like when SSJ_Ness got banned, the soul of Kiwifarms died and the site truly entered its death throes.

I'm not gonna say Ness is innocent--he absolutely said stupid shit and deserved that ban--but the weird thing is that sometimes Ness could be the most reasonable person in the room.

I recall once talking about Ranma 1/2 with him, an anime where most Kiwis look at the premise and call it "tranny shit," but Ness was one of the few people who understood that something can have a gender-bend premise and not have anything to do with trans stuff.

And this was Kiwifarms in a nutshell: half the time it was stupid, the other half the time they were some of the most reasonable people online.

While the forum had been losing its mind before Ness was kicked, it feels like his booting accelerated it.

you're probably not wrong. when a forum has such a small userbase any power user leaving really fucks up everything. think about it like a community. say a high school of 1200 kids. one leaving really fucks up everything sometimes. especially when there is only 5% of those that really contribute a whole lot and keep people's spirits up.

in august they used to knock out about 60k posts per week, and now its under 50k meaning site activity has dropped 1/6th in the last 4 months. Another thing to note is the quality of the posts. because i'd say about 10% of posts at minimum in a given week are A&N posts of people going "fuck niggers/indians/trannies" or "i hate this" or "this rules" to any given article without adding anything to the conversation. despite the hype its a much smaller forum than people think.

thats whats funny about null banning people, its basically a userbase of 1200 people and he's expecting 600 paypigs. he only has 133 paypigs right now and that seems in line with the userbase. way more understandable for 1/8 people to donate vs 50% especially when you notice how many don't have jobs. it also shows you how crazy this whole thing is. he has 9 mods for a site with under 50k posts weekly. if even 1% of posts are flagged, that's still 500 posts for 9 mods to review, why he needs so many is insane.

 

[Obscenity2022]

its still 50,000 posts

how many posts are you seeing that need sweeping? users are obnoxious enough to report "rule breakers" so most of your job is done for ya. you don't need to look at every single fucking post. Null's even admitted the mods were faster than even facebook's and that was before a 20% drop in posts and a doubling of mods meaning even less "work" to go around.

especially for a Free Speech forum jannys shouldn't be sweeping too much.

 

[nobodyworthwhile]

and no, those people are not about to come over to a splinter site like this dump , or even someone else barfing a copy of xenforo up and running a kiwifarms spite house on it. the whole "blackjack and hookers" thing never works, it only works when its organic and everyone just collectively agrees its time to pick up our Barbie dolls and go play somewhere else. a good discussion group? im in. fuck "cow" boards though.

I'm gonna be honest, part of the problem is Onionfarms is literally just a place I go to, to bitch about KF.

Part of the problem is nothing else is really actively discussed here. I recall back when the news of The Completionist being a charity scammer first broke, I posted about it both here and on KF. On KF it became active, dug up more info, and even got discovered and used as a resource by the people who were investigating Completionist.

On Onionfarms I only got two replies and both were "who is the Completionist? Why do I care?"

And that pretty much says it all: Onionfarms isn't interested in being anything more than a refugee camp where we bitch about KF, and for that reason it will never be as big.

The other problem is that a lot of the people here aren't that different from Kiwis.

I think for a KF alternative to really work, it has to

A) have an identity outside of being a KF alternative.

B) have a culture that is very different from KF.

That said.... the biggest thing that saddens me about KF's decline is that they were an information resource, and when they go, they're gonna take a lot of valuable intel with them.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

/g/ - Technology » Thread #107418360

desuarchive.org

4trans hates KF now. some gems in here like “isnt that just a place for fat women to gossip about even fatter women?”

it goes on and on, nobody has anything good to say. this is the audience he was trying to court after 4ch was hacked and is so fond of pretending hes cozy with.

https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/kiwifarms/page/1/

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Fedposting from some of the 4channers aside (telling people to spam CSAM on Kiwi Farms just to take down the farms is retarded), they're not wrong that Kiwi Farms has become a cat lady forum.

Many of the good posters either got banned or scared away because of Jersh and his newfag retards making Kiwi Farms more unpleasant these days.

Kiwi Farms is as valuable as a supermarket tabloid these days.

 

[HET!]

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Burgers? Lolcows?

>deep dive
As someone who was browsing the sharty thread last night, it was anything but. The posts from around yesterday were revolving around a doxxing campaign on the sharty called "No Nut November", which was a giant gay-op to try and dox as many NSFW artists as possible.

They got about 100 people, most of them having only committed the sin of being a troon or making gay art. One person was doxxed for daring to question the ethics of the almighty sharty during this shitshow, and only one other person actually had the feds tipped off about them. This was because those participating were less concerned about actually dealing with potential pedos and more about sending "'zas," which is soyfag speak for ordering pizzas to people you doxxed... along with keeping track of who could send the most

One streamer had four pizzas sent to them during a stream.

But of course, the soyfags didnt stop there, and another streamer had their account hacked mid stream.

Im amazed Null is trying to brownnose these fags. Imagine the kind of reaction thered be if the journalists pushing #DropKiwiFarms found these people on the site advertising the successes of their doxxing campaign.

>"but the people they doxxed are degenerates"
Then laugh at them, dont do this shit or cheer it on. Nothing beneficial comes from touching the shit, no matter how degenerate it may be.

Everyone the sharty has doxxed came out unscathed. Rev says Desu still has their youtube channel, Webfishing is still on steam, same with The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and I can guarantee just about everyone targeted in this gayest gay-op of all time will not have anything happen to them. All these soyfags have done is make these people into martyrs, and cause them to sink deeper into whatever degeneracy they may be participating in.

The reason Im ranting so long is because this is a perfect example of where the realm of lolcow-centered places are headed. Nobody wants to just sit back and laugh at gross idiots on the internet anymore, instead its all about who can be the bigger ween against whatever you dont like. All while being high and mighty on how you "hate degenerates and pedos" whenever any sane person questions the point of it all.

tl;dr: The sharty and its consequences have been a disaster to society

 

[Tom Homan's Alien Removals]

>deep dive
As someone who was browsing the sharty thread last night, it was anything but. The posts from around yesterday were revolving around a doxxing campaign on the sharty called "No Nut November", which was a giant gay-op to try and dox as many NSFW artists as possible.
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They got about 100 people, most of them having only committed the sin of being a troon or making gay art. One person was doxxed for daring to question the ethics of the almighty sharty during this shitshow, and only one other person actually had the feds tipped off about them. This was because those participating were less concerned about actually dealing with potential pedos and more about sending "'zas," which is soyfag speak for ordering pizzas to people you doxxed... along with keeping track of who could send the most
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One streamer had four pizzas sent to them during a stream.
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But of course, the soyfags didnt stop there, and another streamer had their account hacked mid stream.
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Im amazed Null is trying to brownnose these fags. Imagine the kind of reaction thered be if the journalists pushing #DropKiwiFarms found these people on the site advertising the successes of their doxxing campaign.

>"but the people they doxxed are degenerates"
Then laugh at them, dont do this shit or cheer it on. Nothing beneficial comes from touching the shit, no matter how degenerate it may be.

Everyone the sharty has doxxed came out unscathed. Rev says Desu still has their youtube channel, Webfishing is still on steam, same with The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and I can guarantee just about everyone targeted in this gayest gay-op of all time will not have anything happen to them. All these soyfags have done is make these people into martyrs, and cause them to sink deeper into whatever degeneracy they may be participating in.

The reason Im ranting so long is because this is a perfect example of where the realm of lolcow-centered places are headed. Nobody wants to just sit back and laugh at gross idiots on the internet anymore, instead its all about who can be the bigger ween against whatever you dont like. All while being high and mighty on how you "hate degenerates and pedos" whenever any sane person questions the point of it all.

tl;dr: The sharty and its consequences have been a disaster to society

Some of the tactics Soyjak Party is known for crosses the line into ID theft sometimes (i.e. calling utility company to shut off utilities, other forms of impersonation via fake accounts, hacking accounts, etc.) Soytards can become quite dangerous if someone starts calling them out publicly.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

If you ask me, I strongly believe that the Sharty glows brighter than a quasar.

Most of their shenanigans involve black hat script kiddie hacking (illegal), the Sharty often making false police reports (also illegal), and harassment that often involves a lot of A-Logging (even Anthony LoGotto never went this far with Chris-Chan).

I also know for a fact that the admins for the Sharty do not protect the privacy of their own users and they collect data from their own anons where they sell that off to any data broker for some quick cash (which is dumb because should any Sharty anon is being investigated for a crime then the admins will easily rat them out). So the fact that the Sharty admins sell out their own users shows me that the Sharty glows brighter than a nuclear explosion and this makes the Sharty no different than 4chan.

I've also heard of horror stories where whenever the Sharty attacks someone, some of their anons will spam CSAM in order to frame their targets for a crime the victim didn't commit. If that is true then some of the Sharty anons are criminals for being in possession of that illegal content.

If you ask me, it wouldn't surprise me if the Sharty are on some FBI watchlist. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the Sharty anons are feds that are encouraging any retards on the Sharty to glowpost so they can incriminate them in the future. I won't be surprised if someday the Sharty gets anally raped by the feds with no lube and that will probably be how the Sharty will end its story on the Internet anyway.

 

[SwanSwanson]

There's a thought I've been having.

It's kind of weird to say, but it feels like when SSJ_Ness got banned, the soul of Kiwifarms died and the site truly entered its death throes.

I'm not gonna say Ness is innocent--he absolutely said stupid shit and deserved that ban--but the weird thing is that sometimes Ness could be the most reasonable person in the room.

I recall once talking about Ranma 1/2 with him, an anime where most Kiwis look at the premise and call it "tranny shit," but Ness was one of the few people who understood that something can have a gender-bend premise and not have anything to do with trans stuff.

And this was Kiwifarms in a nutshell: half the time it was stupid, the other half the time they were some of the most reasonable people online.

While the forum had been losing its mind before Ness was kicked, it feels like his booting accelerated it.

I dont support ness' ban, and consider him one of kiwifarms better users, but kiwifarms spirit was gone before that.

I think for a KF alternative to really work, it has to

A) have an identity outside of being a KF alternative.

B) have a culture that is very different from KF.

It's likely never going to happen

 

[thefrogninja]

I think for a KF alternative to really work...

KF alternatives exist. Twitter & Reddit.

 

[IKOL]

It's kind of weird to say, but it feels like when SSJ_Ness got banned, the soul of Kiwifarms died and the site truly entered its death throes.

It was on this path for a while and SSJ_Ness have nothing to do with it.

 

[SwanSwanson]

It was on this path for a while and SSJ_Ness have nothing to do with it.

There's a million users like SSJ_Ness who were banned as well.

 

[IKOL]

There's a million users like SSJ_Ness who were banned as well.

I like exaggerations.

 

[ipreferpickles]

Im amazed Null is trying to brownnose these fags. Imagine the kind of reaction thered be if the journalists pushing #DropKiwiFarms found these people on the site advertising the successes of their doxxing campaign.

Null can't afford to piss off the soyteens and he's more than likely trying to get them to become an attack force against anyone who he's feuding with.

There's a million users like SSJ_Ness who were banned as well.

I see his ban as a wider internet trend of people, even on edgier forums, getting tired of the right wing. If you read through his ban thread, a couple people were questioning why someone like Ness was allowed to post for as long as he did without any mod intervention, since the things he said that got him banned weren't anything new for him.

 

[Nektar Geist]

-but the weird thing is that sometimes Ness could be the most reasonable person in the room.

As long as everyone else in the room was a histrionic faggot.

that's still 500 posts for 9 mods to review, why he needs so many is insane.

He doesn't. A few of them are from the Ol' Days(tm) (2016 and before). They stick around, because they have nothing else to do with their lives. I guess, some of them might have stuff on joshy, but I think that the jannies are all unpaid (except a few side hustles)

part of the problem is Onionfarms is literally just a place I go to, to bitch about KF.

Meh, it was the same for dot org.

some gems in here like “isnt that just a place for fat women to gossip about even fatter women?”

That's unfair, a lot of the BPhags are skinny bints, raging at the fact that fat tardesses get more action than them.

Kiwi Farms is as valuable as a supermarket tabloid these days.

C'mon, when was it ever "valuable"? THis idea that COmmie Farms is this thing other than a bunch of speds seething at Chad and Stacy, while harassing the only people they can feel superior to (ie: much more autistic speds)

 

[Obscenity2022]

KF alternatives exist. Twitter & Reddit.

exactly, snark pages are better at tracking lolcows, to the point where kiwifarms is obviously jealous and enjoys seeing them suffer.

and twitter is better at the A&N sperging. like look at h3h3 or any other "big" lolcow such as Chris chan and 99% of the time reddit is better at logging their shit. Some retard tried making an OP for Joe Rogan recently on kiwifarms and it completely failed because reddit does it so much better.

At this point kiwifarms is like diet Sharty, most of the lolcows are internal products.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

C'mon, when was it ever "valuable"? THis idea that COmmie Farms is this thing other than a bunch of speds seething at Chad and Stacy, while harassing the only people they can feel superior to (ie: much more autistic speds)

Well at least supermarket tabloids are more entertaining than Kiwi Farms despite stories on tabloids being fake.

 

[Nektar Geist]

despite stories on tabloids being fake.

And how much of joshy's "narrative" is self serving BS?

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

And how much of joshy's "narrative" is self serving BS?

The way I see it, Jersh should just rename Kiwi Farms into Dairy Farms.

It's clear Jersh doesn't even like healthy fruit that keeps you slim and he prefers cheese anyway.

 

[cosmic veteran]

dot org.

as in lolcow.org? that splinter by @SIGSEGV?