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Sneeder Griffin said:
There are many, many things to criticize Nick about, but the reality is he's one of the most popular talking heads on the far right, mostly because everyone else is so pathetic and degenerate. If wignats actually learned to wash their ass, leave their basement, and stop sperging out at anyone who has ever interacted with a minority, they might be able to see the same success as Nick and their attacks on him might actually be taken seriously.
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while all true, if you notice null and BAP and most of his other detractors chose wrong when it came to israel, and Nick being Mr. Anti-israel the last decade has finally payed off. there's some weird alternate universe when Oct 7th happened in 2016 and WP doesn't get canceled and that Sam Hyde/Nick Fuentes interview happens in 2017. its literally like asking why everyone loves some conspiracy theorist who was the first to call out covid bullshit or every gossip person who later massive fanbases for talking about the Weinstein stuff before everyone else.

That's similar to how Redbar got massively famous the last 5 years because his feuds against guys like Joe Rogan or Chris D'elia or other comedians suddenly payed off once the rest of society got on his level. he even admitted he would deliberatly start feuds with other podcasts and use his dedicated fanbase to help fuck with people in order to "get his name out there and go viral" the exact same way you're seeing Nick do today with his Tucker Carlson and Candice owens tirades.

If you're early on a hate train, you end up becoming seen as an authority and guide the conversation. a great kiwifarms example is @The Gays From LA who dominated the contrapoints thread or Blav in the Destiny thread, while others might be better or have more to add to the discourse they end up practically famous for their contributions.

Its like being an early investor in a stock, eventually if everything goes right you look like a genius and people hold you in high regard no matter how lucky you are.

people might be faggots about it, but Nick was really the biggest anti-israel name especially on the right for a very long time. he was talking about it back when Jack Buckby still led the proudboys and you had the alt-light vs alt-right.

Nick was also huge on the anti-boomer crusade, in general he was saying everything people are only now realizing zoomers are all about. its more shocking he hasn't been bigger, even with the censorship. People don't realize how charismatic and perceptive nick is, especially for how censored he's been. I wouldn't be shocked if Sam Hyde or Kanye West or his other connections help him get even bigger, but he has a great energy to him that you don't really see on the right, which is what you said in your comment. there really aren't a lot of non-fat asses who can appear on camera and people's first inclination is "look at this fat fucking loser who's so autistic he can't even speak" which makes up 99% of the alt-right, even JD Vance is fat as shit.

I honestly feel like if Nick Fuentes did go on JRE, especially if he had Sam Hyde or someone else on with him he'd do amazing. look how many podcasts he's been on and been a great guest on. If someone that isn't obviously hateful has him on, he usually has an entertaining time. destiny is a great example, nick was so good destiny sucked him dick.
 
Nick Feuntes isn't really going to last long and he won't go anywhere even with his new found popularity for one main reason, the man is his own worst enemy.

Say what you want about Candace Owens but she is right about Fuentes for one thing, Fuentes is often the one that starts unneeded fights with other people on the Dissident Right because Fuentes doesn't like sharing his popularity with other people, he wants to be number one in the Dissident Right.

Another reason why Fuentes won't go anywhere is because the dude is a massive moralfag hypocrite; he has condemned homosexuality before but then he went on a date with a catboy twink from Australia (he says they're just good friends but the obvious body language from the two says otherwise), when Nick Fuentes made comments about hunting for cum stains with a black light, and when Nick Fuentes accidentally streamed gay porn and he blamed the Jews for his own mistake (it's got to the point where even Andrew Tate called out Fuentes by pointing out that Fuentes is a betamale for blaming the Jews for everything and how Fuentes is an immature jackass where Fuentes doesn't want to take any responsibility for his own mistakes in his life).

There is also Nick Fuentes' weird comments he made about pedophilia and the fact that Fuentes had unironic pedophiles in his inner circle. Everything from how Nick Fuentes thinks age of consent laws should be abolished because he thinks females should be completely submissive to men regardless of age, to Nick Fuentes agreeing with Destiny when Destiny said that "Kids are hot", and Nick Fuentes knowingly having child predators in his inner circle (like Ali Alexander) where Fuentes had to distance himself from them after they got caught (I'm sure news media and South Park are going to have a field day with this shit if they ever bother to cover this really freaky aspect of Nick Fuentes' life).

But the question that gets brought up the most is whether or not Nick Fuentes is a fed and you even have people like Elon Musk coming to the conclusion that Nick Fuentes is most likely a fed asset. After the Jan 6th riots, Fuentes was (for the most part) left alone and the feds did nothing to him while many other groypers and MAGA folk that participated in the riots got the book thrown at them. It's almost like Nick Fuentes made a deal with the feds so he doesn't get fucked in court, it's almost like Fuentes is likely a fed informant now, it's almost like Nick Fuentes now glows in the dark.

I don't see Nick Fuentes going anywhere and what his left of his Groyper movement is most likely going to implode in the same way Richard Spencer and the Alt-Right imploded after the 'Unite the Right' rally.
 
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Believe it or not, most people do not care about any of that. Only perpetually online speds.

People at large do not care that:
- He hung out with Catboy Kami a single time 6 years ago.
- Made a joke about finding stains with a blacklight years ago.
- Made creepy comments about wanting a 16 year old bride when he was 23. (That even Josh would say is not pedophilic.)
- Was not arrested for January 6 because he never set foot inside of the capitol, which some of his fans/friends like Baked Alaska did.
- Distanced himself from Ali Alexander who he used to his benefit, as many other Republicans had, when the heat became too much.

When you dump this lore to "redpill the normies" you just look like a freak.
 
Neighbor Nerds said:
Jewsh's opinions on whether something is or isn't pedophilia doesn't mean much lmao. A grown adult wanting to marry a 16 year old IS pedophilic, and most normies would agree with that.
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Yeah this isn't the early 00s anymore, the age of consent doesn't vary state to state, the age of consent is 17 federally now.

I don't see a problem if the people are a few years apart (if they are close enough in age to have been in high school together then whatever) but when you're hitting me with 23 and 16, that's a little sus. That means he was 20 when she was 13.

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The sheer irony of this jobless loser telling his entire forum to get a job.
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If you don't have a job, then you have no chance of donating to Jewsh. How is he gonna pay for his exotic cheese subscription service if you don't pay up? If you already have a job, then get two! This cheese isn't gonna pay for itself. It ain't free to be 300 lbs. Tetrabax, who used to donate $400 per stream, needs to step it up. Daddy's gotta eat.

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He's been seething about Nick Fuentes and how much clout and pull he still has despite several trumped up controversies only perpetually online speds care about and can cite chapter and verse. Josh feels it is undeserved and that he, Janitor-in-Cheif of a revenge porn hosing gossip forum and President of a dead gay Mugu "big boy" foundation, deserves a turn in the limelight.
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He has a point. If Null went all in on hating women and didn't piss off the lolicons, incels and other assorted woman-haters, he'd probably have a lot more support than he currently does. A lot of men among the online right are pedophile incel spergs who want to wallow in self-pity, and Fuentes has turned that into a genuine movement.
 
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He has a point. If Null went all in on hating women and didn't piss off the lolicons, incels and other assorted woman-haters, he'd probably have a lot more support than he currently does. A lot of men among the online right are pedophile incel spergs who want to wallow in self-pity, and Fuentes has turned that into a genuine movement.
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A lot of men online period. We don't have to make it political even. That's why girls on only fans become multi-millionaires even though xHamster is still free.
 
I don't really see the Groyper movement as a legitimate political movement either because Nick Fuentes and the Groypers don't have any real political power.

Nick Fuentes does have a sizable following on the Internet but that's just it, he only has a sizable following online. The Groypers don't hold public office in America (or in any country) to make their goals into reality.

I remember when Nick Fuentes said that to make America into a fascist state, he encouraged his audience to support far-right candidates to subvert the GOP. This failed because the vast majority of right-wing voters in America aren't fans of legitimate fascists so Nick Fuentes' attempt to turn the GOP into America's own version of the National Socialist German Workers' Party didn't went as planned.

There's one main problem on why Nick Fuentes won't get anywhere with the GOP and it's the fact that the GOP is overwhelmingly pro-Israel because the vast majority of elected officials are Christians that support Israel. Why would a religious Republican that's been raised to learn that the Jews are God's chosen people (as stated in the book of Genesis) are suddenly going to betray their Christian beliefs for white supremacy and antisemitism? It's not going to happen. While there are some people in the GOP that do object to Israel over American sovereignty reasons, they're only libertarians (such as Thomas Massie and Rand Paul) that still believe in individual freedom (because Fascists don't like individualism) and they still refuse to adopt Fascism; you're going to be very hard pressed to find a Libertarian Republican in public office that adopts actual Fascism (because libertarians don't like fascists either as people like Thomas Massie and Rand Paul still oppose Fascism so even the Libertarian Republicans that object to Israel over American sovereignty reasons are not allies for the Groypers either).

I can see why Nick Fuentes is angry at the GOP and A-Logs Trump a lot because Trump is pro-Israel (which Nick Fuentes opposes) and the GOP supports Israel and even the Republicans that do object to Israel over American sovereignty reasons, those Republicans still refuse to adopt Fascism and they reject what Nick Fuentes is trying to sell them. It's for these reasons is why I don't see the Groypers going anywhere and they're going to stay a fridge online political movement while MAGA continues being relevant in the long term.
 
Lunar Magma said:
If you don't have a job, then you have no chance of donating to Jewsh. How is he gonna pay for his exotic cheese subscription service if you don't pay up? If you already have a job, then get two! This cheese isn't gonna pay for itself. It ain't free to be 300 lbs. Tetrabax, who used to donate $400 per stream, needs to step it up. Daddy's gotta eat.

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Nice. Both delicious and fitting for the site.
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thefrogninja said:
Believe it or not, most people do not care about any of that. Only perpetually online speds.

People at large do not care that:
- He hung out with Catboy Kami a single time 6 years ago.
- Made a joke about finding stains with a blacklight years ago.
- Made creepy comments about wanting a 16 year old bride when he was 23. (That even Josh would say is not pedophilic.)
- Was not arrested for January 6 because he never set foot inside of the capitol, which some of his fans/friends like Baked Alaska did.
- Distanced himself from Ali Alexander who he used to his benefit, as many other Republicans had, when the heat became too much.

When you dump this lore to "redpill the normies" you just look like a freak.
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Except they do because Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk, who normies both know and respect, both referenced things from that list. Nick is always going to be the creepy little gay kid in mommy's basement and not a legitimate political leader (you might notice this applies to Josh and his own political movement as well). The feds executed their plan perfectly by astroturfing a loser to be the spokesman for a movement with actual concerns. The feds have been doing this for decades with dissident movements in the United States, all the way back to when they had Rockwell and his band of feds larping as Nazis crashing counter-protests against the civil rights movement or got crazy Chairman Mao worshippers to show up at protests against the Vietnam War (or today the protests against Israel).

The only reason I do not believe Josh is a fed, even though he fits this breed of loser to the letter, is because the movement againet debanking is not a big concern for those in power since most people never have to deal with it. If it becomes a bigger concern with shit like delisting porn games stirring up the coomers, Josh will have to fight for a place among the loli and rape aficionados to become a good fedboy.
 
Kiwi Pot Pie said:
Except they do because Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk, who normies both know and respect, both referenced things from that list.
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They don't care the same way they don't care Elon is a retard and a fed or that Tucker is a son of a fed and a nepo baby. The same way they don't care about Andrew Tate's abuse of women and rape allegations. I want to say it again because it's very important: Only perpetually online speds care about any of this.
 
Smeared Mascara said:
I don't see a problem if the people are a few years apart (if they are close enough in age to have been in high school together then whatever) but when you're hitting me with 23 and 16, that's a little sus. That means he was 20 when she was 13.

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It's even worse than that. I dug up the original clip and 45 seconds in Fuentes says that he would like to be 30 when he gets his 16 year old bride, and makes it clear that the age gap and purity is alluring to him. But appearently if you care that a increasingly prominent right wing talking head potentially has sexual proclivities towards teenage girls, you're a loser.

 
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It's even worse than that. I dug up the original clip and 45 seconds in Fuentes says that he would like to be 30 when he gets his 16 year old bride, and makes it clear that the age gap and purity is alluring to him. But appearently if you care that a increasingly prominent right wing talking head potentially has sexual proclivities towards teenage girls, you're a loser.

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