Null 🥝 Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Null just a moment ago on MATI very publicly burned his bridge with Rekieta:

Based on what Rekieta said, that he wants me to be the one to say we're not fwends anymore, I would be completely right to say you're lying about me, deliberately, to drive a wedge between me and my community. That's pretty shitty, go fuck yourself. Every reasonable person, it would be extremely reasonable to say that. And I wouldn't be MATI, because it's not the internet that's pissing me off, it's one particular person. However, chat, in good faith, I will treat Rekieta as he has treated me, because whenever he signs off his rants about me, he says "I love Josh, I love the KF": I just think everything about him is shit and his community is fucking garbage and I don't care, and I hope he goes away, because, fuck it. That's his thing, he does this really passive-aggressive thing, where he circles around, telling me to go fuck myself, but he can't be the one to say it. So I won't be able to say it. In fact, I will treat Rekieta as he's treated me, and I'm gonna say (proceeds to read a passive-aggressive note with a lot of what I guess are underhanded insults referring Rekieta lore or private conversations that I'm completely unfamiliar with and hence can't parse.)

Nick, I hold no ill will towards you. I totally forgive you for lying about me offering to censor your thread. I know from your nose, it's just part of your nature and you can't help yourself. Your car is so cool, and you totally deserve to treat yourself. (I didn't get the rest, to me it sounded like Null was referring to stuff that Rekieta had discussed with him privately, like buying a new car or something like that, that Null is now implicitly making fun of.)
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The Gays From LA said:
Do you think KiwiFarms can exist without Null?
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The answer is a bit more complex than a simple yes or no, also he wasn't even the one to start it iirc. It used to be chris chan focused when someone else originally made it and became kiwifarms later. I can see the same thing happening again. It probably won't be known as kiwifarms but if someone manages to get all the data off the site they can basically just copy it over and mirror it continuing it as a spiritual successor like kiwi was for the chis chan one. Depending on who he gets to host the site someone could pull 4d chess and make a copy. Probably why he also says not to trust unofficial mirrors. In theory it could certainly continue without him in one form or another, again it probably just won't be called kiwifarms.
 
The Gays From LA said:
KiwiFarms exist as a platform for Null to collect unique lolcow material for MATI.
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I believe its more accurate the other way around. Im sure this isnt entirely accurate since Im working with some pretty hazy memories from when I used to listen to MATI years ago, but I believe he's said something like he made MATI as a way to make money in a way that wasnt "directly" tied to kf since he would get banned if he tried to make official kf accounts on patreon and similar services.
This also coincided with him trying to network with all the cool youtubers at the time, most of which he's burned bridges with by now, lol.
Increasing his brand recognition and thereby generating interest/traffic to the farms, was a factor in all of this too, I believe.
 
The Gays From LA said:
They literally think Rekieta wants to have sex with Null:
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i'm amazed you haven't been following 2023's lolcow of the year. Nick is lying through his teeth and you're more autistic than null for not seeing that. Josh has been through this whole show for a decade. Nick's doing the internet thread subject equivalent of catcalling. No he doesn't actually just want to talk or tell josh he looks pretty today or that he should smile more. Josh is 100% in the right and the only autistic thing is that he doesn't realize humans grey rock that shit. "yeah i heard that sucks" or if he truely liked Nick "thats awful, so hows the kids?" but he is doing what he should here, also Nick's black friend is just his version of Vito. You might defend Vito the pedo but Josh had a shitload of luck breaking shit off right when Dick was starting to get closer to him.

Josh is playing the metokur playbook for the most part, keep everyone at bay and keep your activities online secret. the fact that josh actually uses kiwifarms shows he's slightly more public but overall he's playing by a somewhat normie playbook about his activites online.

I'm actually disappointed, has no one ever slid in your DMs to flirt? Nick is doing everything short of sending a dick pic to josh.
BurnerAccount333 said:
There will always be a gossip forum, but KiwiFarms itself cannot exist without Null.
Most drama sites eventually become stagnant, or implode, thus why most people find Null's site to be particularly exceptional.
So: No, in my opinion I don't think it can exist without Null.
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it really takes a special type of weirdo to keep up a website out of spite for so long. Redbar's mike david barely made more than a guy working at staples by the 10th anniversary of his site and was 100% Null-esque in that era, and while not autistic Mike was so determined to prove the haters and especially his family and former friends wrong that he kept his site up when the userbase was practically nothing. 4k listeners.

If josh was normal then like every other forum, once it stopped being fun or he could milk it he'd drop it and run. literally exactly like ED which has had a dozen different "owners" in the last decade. You need to be unable to get a life outside of your passion project in order to keep at it years later. George Lucas is a bigger example, him not playing with the unions and kikes meant he was the Null of his empire for decades, unable to move on from a franchise that was just one of the dozen ideas he had for films in the 1970s.

plenty of businesses have similar stories, once you take the big guy out then it goes from someone's passion project to something people with almost no passion just take over and use and pass on to the next guy with even less care once they're done with it.
 
Kramer is A Man Da said:
i'm amazed you haven't been following 2023's lolcow of the year. Nick is lying through his teeth and you're more autistic than null for not seeing that. Josh has been through this whole show for a decade. Nick's doing the internet thread subject equivalent of catcalling. No he doesn't actually just want to talk or tell josh he looks pretty today or that he should smile more. Josh is 100% in the right and the only autistic thing is that he doesn't realize humans grey rock that shit. "yeah i heard that sucks" or if he truely liked Nick "thats awful, so hows the kids?" but he is doing what he should here, also Nick's black friend is just his version of Vito. You might defend Vito the pedo but Josh had a shitload of luck breaking shit off right when Dick was starting to get closer to him.
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Balldo man is 100% a weirdo you shouldn't talk to after the sun goes down but josh is also 100% spastic. The fact that nick's late night "you up bby" messages have seemingly caused him so much mental distress is hilariously retarded.
 
Kramer is A Man Da said:
i'm amazed you haven't been following 2023's lolcow of the year. Nick is lying through his teeth and you're more autistic than null for not seeing that. Josh has been through this whole show for a decade. Nick's doing the internet thread subject equivalent of catcalling. No he doesn't actually just want to talk or tell josh he looks pretty today or that he should smile more.
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Nick doesn't? Damn, who's going to take Null to the prom next week?
Kramer is A Man Da said:
I'm actually disappointed, has no one ever slid in your DMs to flirt?
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Is this an offer of invitation?
 
Cursed Content Purveyor said:
Nick Rekieta has definitely become more of a faggot in recent years, definitely a lolcow, but he would wipe the floor with Josh if they ever got into a feud.
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OK, so I listened to Null's "ironic note" to Rekieta again, and I guess Null is alluding to Drexel and Veto being a danger to Rekieta's own children or threatening to rape his own children or something like that? Then Null says that if Drexel and Vito do ever end up raping Rekieta's children, which Null says would prove him right about why Rekieta shouldn't hang out or defend these alleged pedos, Null claims he would be more than happy to fly over from Europe to help Rekieta assassinate the rapists of his children.

Again, the ironic note is written in such a way that, I guess only those who obsessively follow Rekieta will know what Null is actually referring to. If someone who's into Rekieta lore can listen to that segment of MATI (it's at about 1 hour and 45 minutes into the stream) and tell us WTF Null is referring to, that would be appreciated.

A friend in need's a friend indeed
A friend who'll tease is better
Our thoughts compressed
Which makes us blessed
And makes for stormy weather
 
He needs a PR person. He cannot be trusted to talk to the media:
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Or his own users for that matter...
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TheRealAshleyHutsellJankowski said:
Nick doesn't? Damn, who's going to take Null to the prom next week?

Is this an offer of invitation?
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VAIDS Victim said:
He needs a PR person. He cannot be trusted to talk to the media:
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Why does he need a PR person? you really think that towelhead cunt could be convinced to give him a good hitpiece? Ben Shapiro's entire thing is good PR and that fuck has the worst reputation of any kike in modern media. He's treating these people how they deserve to be treated. let @Sailfish reach out if you genuinely think this is a great PR opportunity
 
I agree that this journalist is biased and won't give him a fair article but I don't think replying to people like this with basically "fuck off" is helping. If not a PR response then simply not responding at all would be better than responses like this. He's only playing into their narrative.
Kramer is A Man Da said:
He's treating these people how they deserve to be treated. let @Sailfish reach out if you genuinely think this is a great PR opportunity
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I don't think it's a great PR opportunity, I think he needs a PR person to moderate his response if he's going to bother to respond at all. I agree she deserves nothing less than this kind of response but he's still technically a business owner and should attempt to be somewhat professional.
 
Kramer is A Man Da said:
Why does he need a PR person? you really think that towelhead cunt could be convinced to give him a good hitpiece? Ben Shapiro's entire thing is good PR and that fuck has the worst reputation of any douche bag in modern media. He's treating these people how they deserve to be treated. let @Sailfish reach out if you genuinely think this is a great PR opportunity
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Anything other than a "fuck you" to these people would just be twisted into something it's not for their narrative anyway. It's how "journalism" and "reporting" these days works on both sides regardless of political stance. Honestly the response from null in this instance is pretty reasonable in spite of most if not all his criticism also applying to himself and his personal army forum.
 
VAIDS Victim said:
I agree that this journalist is biased and won't give him a fair article but I don't think replying to people like this with basically "fuck off" is helping. If not a PR response then simply not responding at all would be better than responses like this. He's only playing into their narrative.

I don't think it's a great PR opportunity, I think he needs a PR person to moderate his response if he's going to bother to respond at all. I agree she deserves nothing less than this kind of response but he's still technically a business owner and should attempt to be somewhat professional.
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Yeah it won't help at least in his case but it is kind of funny. The only options are to not respond or to tell them go fuck themselves. At least we get a show, it's like the spiderman pointing at spiderman meme.
 
Chrysler Building said:
Its the whole domination/power thing. He has to assert himself somehow or else the other person "wins." Its retarded
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Just T pose to assert dominance.
As seen in figure A:
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