The end of kiwifarms

Nektar Geist

An Onion Among Onions
On the one hand, you have an autistic website owner who read shota porn as a teenager and runs an edgy forum
Also sends threats of sexual violence. Scammed (and tanked some peoples devices) users by mining crypto (and this is the main reason he is fucked), harassed people (one of them being a vastly more intelligent and qualified laywer), got his mum the sack. If we are being frank and honest.
On the other hand, you have a troon who ran a child grooming discord and illegally distributes homemade HRT to children without their parents' consent. This person has also doxxed and swatted people in the past in spite of speaking out against these things when they happen to him personally
And has (for the time being) the backing of WaPo et al.

Evidence suggests that joshy will always be the bigger cunt, even compared to a death cult looney like Fuff. This is entirely joshys fault.
 

Battle of Brainiac

Janny disrespecter
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I stated this earlier in here but its now offical. Poa.st is being targeted with ddos attacks and is down at this time due to kiwifarms turning it into there life raft. The tranny army continues its genocide of all josh fanboys. They march on through dilation stations and pronoun arguments. Unstoppable it seems. Keep an eye on all this @Sailfish for sure when joshs body is found hanging from a rafter they will turn there saron gaze on all “kiwifarms alternatives” im sure Rob on /cow/ is prepping the hatches.
 


Also sends threats of sexual violence. Scammed (and tanked some peoples devices) users by mining crypto (and this is the main reason he is fucked), harassed people (one of them being a vastly more intelligent and qualified laywer), got his mum the sack. If we are being frank and honest.

And has (for the time being) the backing of WaPo et al.

Evidence suggests that joshy will always be the bigger cunt, even compared to a death cult looney like Fuff. This is entirely joshys fault.

How is any of that worse than preying on children?
 

Battle of Brainiac

Janny disrespecter
Hellovan Onion
Also sends threats of sexual violence. Scammed (and tanked some peoples devices) users by mining crypto (and this is the main reason he is fucked), harassed people (one of them being a vastly more intelligent and qualified laywer), got his mum the sack. If we are being frank and honest.

And has (for the time being) the backing of WaPo et al.

Evidence suggests that joshy will always be the bigger cunt, even compared to a death cult looney like Fuff. This is entirely joshys fault.
Ya man I dont think trying to have a debate on whos worse josh or keffals is the right approach here. Its more of a topic of who gets lined against the wall first because they both need it tbh.
 
We've been told not to shit up the thread, but... One of the people he sent threats to was a child.

Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.
 

sick twist

Baby Onion
Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.
Why do you think this matters?

Both people are shitty. One being worse doesn't matter. It's like trying to decide if a warlord who committed cannibalism should put to death harder than one who one raped people first.
 

Nektar Geist

An Onion Among Onions
Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.
It was a girl. He has a thread here. You might want to read it. And yes, in a legal sense, it is worse. Threatening to rape and murder is against the law.

So, at best, for joshy, it's 6 of one, isn't it? At best, he's just as much of a cunt as Fuff. At best.
 

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Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.
Her name was Stocking and you can read all about it here: https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/joshua-moons-blocklands-saga-restored.2839/
 
Why do you think this matters?

Both people are shitty. One being worse doesn't matter. It's like trying to decide if a warlord who committed cannibalism should put to death harder than one who one raped people first.

What's wrong with comparing lolcows? I thought the whole point of this site was to discuss them.

It was a girl. He has a thread here. You might want to read it. And yes, in a legal sense, it is worse. Threatening to rape and murder is against the law.

So, at best, for joshy, it's 6 of one, isn't it? At best, he's just as much of a cunt as Fuff. At best.

I'm working my way through his megathread. It's pretty long. While you might be right in a legal sense (I know that child grooming is legal in the US, but I'm not sure about Canada), I think it's funny that sending threatening messages to someone can be considered worse than causing IRL harm to children. Granted, I'm not saying that what Josh did was okay, even for a teenager, just that one caused damage to children in real life and the other, as far as I know, didn't.


Thanks.
 

sick twist

Baby Onion
What's wrong with comparing lolcows? I thought the whole point of this site was to discuss them.



I'm working my way through his megathread. It's pretty long. While you might be right in a legal sense (I know that child grooming is legal in the US, but I'm not sure about Canada), I think it's funny that sending threatening messages to someone can be considered worse than causing IRL harm to children. Granted, I'm not saying that what Josh did was okay, even for a teenager, just that one caused damage to children in real life and another, as far as I know, didn't.



Thanks.
There's nothing wrong with it. It's just weird you're acting like there is some kind of algorithm proof you can use to show Josh is 0.05% less shit than Keffals and I'm asking why you think it matters, not telling you to stop.
 

Nektar Geist

An Onion Among Onions
just that one caused damage to children in real life and the other, as far as I know, didn't.
Good point about "as far as I know", as you aren't really that clued up about joshy (no offense, most KFers aren't, people tend to focus on the cows they are interested in).

But, again, read the thread, his constant association with CP (but maybe you're in the "it's just pictures!"), his connection with school shooters... I could go on.

Kerfuffels is a mentally ill man (like joshy), is a sexual pervert (like joshy), likes to surround himself with young people with social problems (like joshy).

The point: Who is worse, is academic, it depends on your moral standpoint. The point: This situation is completely joshys doing, is objectively fact.
 
There's nothing wrong with it. It's just weird you're acting like there is some kind of algorithm proof you can use to show Josh is 0.05% less shit than Keffals and I'm asking why you think it matters, not telling you to stop.

People in this thread are saying that the reason KiwiFarms is being attacked is because Josh is a sperg and this made KF a lightning rod for attacks from all angles, which is why Keffals' campaign has seen so much support and has been successful so far. My claim is that it doesn't matter that Josh is a sperg, and that the real reason KF is being attacked is because the site has archived malicious/illegal activity from troon lolcows and now the troons are trying to scrub this info from the internet. Because they're troons, they get full support from tech companies, not because tech companies are aware of all of Josh's lore and are taking advantage of finally having a reason to take him down. While arguing this, I said that the reason Keffals has so much support isn't because he's more respectable than Null, which is what everyone else fixated on.

I dunno. It'd be like if people argued that the reason Destiny was facing deplatforming issues during Keffals' attacks on him was because he's a sexual degenerate, then I point out that he's always been a degen but wasn't getting hammered until he started speaking out against troons competing against biowomen in sports, and that Keffals is a bigger sexual degenerate anyway, then people insisted that Destiny is actually the bigger sex pervert and the conversation just devolved into arguing whether a groomer pedo troon is worse than a cuck who thinks there's such a thing as ethical incest and CP.
 

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Baby Onion
People in this thread are saying that the reason KiwiFarms is being attacked is because Josh is a sperg and this made KF a lightning rod for attacks from all angles, which is why Keffals' campaign has seen so much support and has been successful so far. My claim is that it doesn't matter that Josh is a sperg, and that the real reason KF is being attacked is because the site has archived malicious/illegal activity from troon lolcows and now the troons are trying to scrub this info from the internet. Because they're troons, they get full support from tech companies, not because tech companies are aware of all of Josh's lore and are taking advantage of finally having a reason to take him down. While arguing this, I said that the reason Keffals has so much support isn't because he's more respectable than Null, which is what everyone else fixated on.

I dunno. It'd be like if people argued that the reason Destiny was facing deplatforming issues during Keffals' attacks on him was because he's a sexual degenerate, then I point out that he's always been a degen but wasn't getting hammered until he started speaking out against troons competing against biowomen in sports, and that Keffals is a bigger sexual degenerate anyway, then people insisted that Destiny is actually the bigger sex pervert and the conversation just devolved into arguing whether a groomer pedo troon is worse than a cuck who thinks there's such a thing as ethical incest and CP.
Oh its easier than that.

Kiwi Farms is framed often as engaging in libel. Troons routinely have convinced others things like the archived pages are faked by users or taken out of context. A lot of the worst behavior by trannies is further viewed as "just one bad actor" and not representative of the whole. Trannies on a whole note have done really well with the PR campaigns and constantly can just fall back on the non-existent perfectly passing tranny who never bothers anyone that totally does really exist in massive numbers.

Josh shot himself in his doubtlessly size 5 foot because the places he came in contact with groups outside of KF (New Zealand, journalists who emailed him) by telling them to fuck off. He established himself to people who never visit KF as this hot headed idiot and that makes it easier for people at large to give the benefit of the doubt to troons who managed to not get banned on every public platform.
 

Nektar Geist

An Onion Among Onions
You seem to have a massive blind spot, when it comes to joshy the broom.

Counterpoint: joshy has a history of illegal activities, and due to no one really knowing who he was, he got away with it. Then people started to notice. And the tech companies wanted nothing to do with "Back Door" joshy. He himself fucked off any good will he had. That had nothing to do with troonatics, big tech, just joshys malformed ego.

If he hadn't been a cunt, hadn't turned a site he just jannied (badly) into his own blankey, none of this would have happened.
 

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I think Josh makes a convenient but ultimately stupid target. His offenses pale in comparison to what gets walked by every day on the internet. And it's all going to get exposed.

I understand why he has some enemies. I understand he's fun for some people to poke at. Doesn't change the fact that kiwi farms isn't illegal and he shouldn't be forced to take it off the internet.

(stanning Null isn't popular here...but w/e)


Null is also 100% right about the fact that if kiwi farms goes, the precedent will be used to silence minority voices all over the place. And eventually the vulnerable group you care about will be hit. And it will happen faster than you can imagine.
 

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Hey @░░░▓▓▓▓▓▓ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้ nice to see you here.

I think Josh makes a convenient but ultimately stupid target. His offenses pale in comparison to what gets walked by every day on the internet. And it's all going to get exposed.

I understand why he has some enemies. I understand he's fun for some people to poke at. Doesn't change the fact that kiwi farms isn't illegal and he shouldn't be forced to take it off the internet.

(stanning Null isn't popular here...but w/e)
Do people get how Bill of rights and shit works?

Let's play US lesson for laws:

Corporations were ruled ages ago as individuals in terms of the rights they maintain. This is a big reason why you don't see the government not being able to roll in and open someone's books to make sure they aren't embezzling without having to go through the same process they so getting warrants and such on individuals.

The implication there is the way the first amendment has historically been interpreted is that the government, and only the government, can't do shit to impede your freedom of speech. Corporations need no more justifications than anyone else here would need to block you from using their services.

Josh's game of being this last bastion of Freedom of Speech meant nothing because it wasn't ever the government after him. He needed to play a game of nice because he was dealing with businesses not government agencies. His rights don't mean much more than they do to another individual to Cloudflare.

Rights are a legal construct and questions of if it's good or bad are irrelevant.
 
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