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incels are the basic building blocks of every movement, you think men with wives and families joined the army? especially in the era of career soldiers post-feudalism but before the modern system of short terms and reservists. there's a reason gangs target the newly pubescent and most of the civil rights foot soldiers of the 50s were incels. Bayard Rustin was the Ali Alexander of his day, but last i checked niggers don't have to use separate water fountains anymore either, so he won in the end.

one of the easiest criticisms of activism is the fact that you usually are an unfuckable weirdo, even George Orwell infamously mentioned it all the way back in 1936/37, so to just move on from the incels is like trying to make porn but make sure no one jerks off to it. its an insane proposition and a losing one. yeah they're annoying, you want to deal with normal people get an office job
I wouldn't go that far. I think most of the guys I was talking about will cut ties with the right as it continues it's death spiral and they lose ground to the horde of young demoralized virgin men that make up most of the online right wing spaces. It's gotten bad enough that Null is talking about fleeing America again and is getting bullied by leftists on Twitter.
 
But no seriously @Obscenity2022 what was that "Magic Dirt" thing about?
a more modern term for "tabula rasa". basically the idea that a Haitian turned haiti into a shithole because of things beyond their control and if we let them come to america, they'd be just as hard working and patriotic and right wing as your average white american.

Basically it means a right winger who isn't racist. like Welperhelper or Johnny Bravo or a bunch of other boomers. "black people are only like that because of culture and nothing else"

as if every white person under 50 isn't a fan of rap and has similar shit circumstances. but somehow don't commit crimes. like JD Vance was literally raised in a single mom household and the mom was a drug addict and he didn't rob a 7/11. these faggots lie to themselves about how "the guvamant" and "dem programs" caused black people to detoritioate into this when anyone with an interest in black culture would point to native son and how it resonated proving that niggers on the south side of chicago were always like that, then there's iceburg slim and eldgerice cleaver and a bunch of other niggers who prove that even before the montgomery bus boycott era niggers were acting like niggers, and we have numerous studies proving it, which oddly enough they literally reference in CRA debates at the time for why they needed programs because it was either give them fucking anything to support them

and i'm not even getting into how rich niggers still act like niggers despite being rich. even the engineers or STEM focused ones still have that nigger attitude to them. such as that famous black MBA who almost became CEO of disney but became a pornstar instead.
 
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... "Magic Dirt?"


I mean, if the site keeps going like it currently is, that'll happen sooner or later.

KF was only sustainable because for a long time it used to be sane. But now that it's insanely far-right its gonna collapse. I have never seen a far-right site last for long. Remember voat, that attempt at a right-wing reddit alternative?

And they all have the same problem: the userbase has a very narrow range of interests. For all reddit's issues, I can go there and find a community for niche anime, or retro Nickelodeon, or whatever else. Voat was all-politics, all the time. So is Kiwifarms now, as much as they pretend they aren't. People said it was annoying SSJ_Ness would make gaming threads political, but even after his ban most of the userbase does that anyway.
What would a post-KF internet look like?
 
a more modern term for "tabula rasa". basically the idea that a Haitian turned haiti into a shithole because of things beyond their control and if we let them come to america, they'd be just as hard working and patriotic and right wing as your average white american.

Basically it means a right winger who isn't racist. like Welperhelper or Johnny Bravo or a bunch of other boomers. "black people are only like that because of culture and nothing else"
I mean, isn't that mostly true though? If people were biologically determined to act a certain way, they could never have made functioning societies and likely would have gone extinct.

It doesn't necessarily have to be that dirt was magic or anything, there is such a thing as being screwed over by circumstance, just like how some people are born into prosperity. It's like playing Civilization and you just happen to start nowhere near a good resource.

Also, at the risk of sounding like a moral busybody, can we PLEASE tone down the use of slurs? It's already something driving me away from Kiwi Farms and it's rather sad to see people on the forum that always bitches about how insane KF is... sounding exactly like KF. As I say in that post, its not even just that slurs are offensive, its also the absolute tourette's-like spamming of them. (Not helped by how Kiwis get petulant when you explain the problem--"Oh, this bothers you? I will do it EVEN MORE!" just like kids you knew in grade school).
 
Archive Today has always been sketchy as fuck.

The moderation is way too lax and I've heard stories on how they don't really do much to take down illegal content which shows me they're probably fucking screwed.

And I know they're screwed because if the FBI wanted to then they'd just send an email to the owner of Archive Today and I'm sure the owner would happily comply.

But the fact that the FBI is sending a subpoena to a Canadian tech company means one thing. The FBI wants to to know who runs Archive Today and how they can legally nail them. That alone shows me the glowies want the head of the Archive Today owner on a silver platter.

But truth be told, I think the CSAM is an excuse. I've heard rumors that Archive Today is run by a Russian foreign national and since the Biden years the American government has been seizing Russian-connected websites deemed being used to influence American public opinion. I think this is it, if you are a Russian offering services to Westerners then get ready to be raped by the Western feds. Just look at what happened to the guy that founded Telegram.

So if the Western glowies permanently shut down Archive Today then it's the end of an era.
 
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I think at this point we can collectively agree that 'muh-Think of the Children' is a midwit argument used to justify authoritarianism.
By all sides,yes it is. See the Archive.IS takedown as a classic exampleof it.
like what does he mean no one cares?
He's talking shit. I care. Gay Marraige, of which I was on board for at the time (I honestly didn't give a fuck one way of the other) is a failed experiment and should be reversed.
What's more telling, is that these big bad right wing parties are not platforming for the removal of gay marriage, like it's a settled debate and that's it.
So much for conservation of traditionalism.
These political positions became very unpopular throughout the 2000's which is why America got eight years of Obama
Obama was against gay marriage for a long time. He originally ran on a platform opposing it.
So when you see retarded Moral Majority Republicans push for mass surveillance for the Internet
They aren't right wing, they're the uniparty. Those in power want censorship.
I don't see much of a future for the right in it's current form.
The right doesn't exist and hasn't done for decades. One could argue Bush was the last of the right wing but he was a centrist at best.
There's been an update to this. Apparently somebody was using that site to archive CSAM.
A cover story for anyone paying attention. They go after archived CSAM now, by definition the archive means it has been around a while, and not when it was originally uploaded or captured?
This is Kash trying to get a win after the complete fuck up of the epstein files and a precursor to internet censorship.
"see, we go after pedophiles. Now if we all had online ID there would be no more pedophiles (except the ones we protect)"
 
But the fact that the FBI is sending a subpoena to a Canadian tech company means one thing.
The irony is that KF laugh at Ofcom (UK) sending demands to 4chan and the farms, to background noises of yeehaw and 1776 "because what the fuck is another country doing telling us what to do", while cheering on the FBI censoring a canadian website.

Is the internet free and should be open and protected, or should it be censored in ways that are OK when they do it?
 
Call it a gut hunch but I get the feeling that the archived CSAM on Archive Today is just an excuse.

The main difference between the Internet Archive and Archive Today is that the Internet Archive have more stringed rules when it comes to copyright takedowns, they comply with takedown requests of illegal porn, they take down doxes and other forms of harassment, and they act in good faith enough which is why the feds don't fuck with them.

Archive Today? It's an almost free for all where almost anything goes which means the glowies are going to take a lot of interest in them.

I've heard rumors that the Trump administration is silently telling Youtube to take down anti-Israel videos and channels. Archive Today has plenty of anti-Israel and antisemitic content. So if this is a collaboration between America (CIA) and Israel (Mossad) to take down platforms and then blame it on Russia then I think it may work because normies are going to look at this and say 'Oh, website owner is a child predator so this is a good thing' and not bother to look at the details to see why everything about this is screwy.

If this is the case, I do see other websites that comes to mind that could be raped by the Western feds soon. If you think Western democracies don't violate people's right to free speech, oh yes they can and they fucking will. It's well documented that America violated the First Amendment rights of their citizens during World War 1 and the Vietnam War by the way.
 
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They’re ACTUALLY brain broken. Any inconvenience MUST be Indians.
 
I mean, isn't that mostly true though? If people were biologically determined to act a certain way, they could never have made functioning societies and likely would have gone extinct.

It doesn't necessarily have to be that dirt was magic or anything, there is such a thing as being screwed over by circumstance, just like how some people are born into prosperity. It's like playing Civilization and you just happen to start nowhere near a good resource.

Also, at the risk of sounding like a moral busybody, can we PLEASE tone down the use of slurs? It's already something driving me away from Kiwi Farms and it's rather sad to see people on the forum that always bitches about how insane KF is... sounding exactly like KF. As I say in that post, its not even just that slurs are offensive, its also the absolute tourette's-like spamming of them. (Not helped by how Kiwis get petulant when you explain the problem--"Oh, this bothers you? I will do it EVEN MORE!" just like kids you knew in grade school).
Nobody, save you breath, Obscenity’s a proud racist. He’s spamming “nigger” because he’s racist. You’re just going to start a pointless shit flinging sesh.
 
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They’re ACTUALLY brain broken. Any inconvenience MUST be Indians.
The fuck does "do the needful" even mean? I see that phrase a lot on KF and while I can guess at its meanings, its just so weird that I'm never sure.

Also didn't quite see what that post had to do with indians, sorry.

EDIT: Also, I don't mind Obscenity being racist so much, but seeing the n-word eight times in one post is genuinely unpleasant. It's like toilet humor: once every couple of hours I can stand it, but if its nonstop then I'm changing the channel.
 
The fuck does "do the needful" even mean? I see that phrase a lot on KF and while I can guess at its meanings, its just so weird that I'm never sure.

Also didn't quite see what that post had to do with indians, sorry.
“Saar” and “do the needful” are both common phrases used to mock Indians. “Patel” is essentially the Indian version of “Tyrone”.
 
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