LFJ wins defamation lawsuit against Flow Chemical

Nektar Geist

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"The case claimed that a Brisbane-based company, Flow Chemical, and its sole director, Vincent Zhen, were “instrumental” to its publication and for keeping it accessible, even though they were not the authors of the defamatory Kiwi Farms thread.

Because the matter was undefended, an interlocutory judgment was made against Flow Chemical and Zhen in July and Fong-Jones was awarded damages of $445,000 plus costs this week."

"The agency attempted to contact Kiwi Farms in May 2022 with takedown notices for Class 1 material – a category of illegal and restricted online content – but the site ignored the request, telling eSafety to shove its “‘fines’ up your arse”, according to documents obtained under FoI."

What janny used the Anglo Saxon word "Arse"?

"Fong-Jones’ crusade against Kiwi Farms has been slow and taxing – both financially and emotionally. While the damages and costs awarded from the case might help pay for things like personal protection, she said, it doesn’t make up for the years of harassment."

Yeah, if Fong had just ignored it... they probably would have had to face up to the horrific lie they are living and topped themselves. Also: Chances of FOng ever getting any of this money?
 

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They probably did say ass but they most likely changed it to arse because the editors didn't like it or something, as journalists tend to do.
 

thefrogninja

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Vincent Zhen and Flow Chemical must pay LFJ $445,000 for its alleged link to Kiwi Farms and its harassment campaign against LFJ led by Josh Moon. Vincent chose to not defend himself. Summary below.

An Australian company found to have helped keep the notorious forum Kiwi Farms accessible online has been ordered to pay more than $400,000 in damages after a successful defamation action in the Victorian supreme court.

Liz Fong-Jones, a longtime crusader against the site, brought the action over what she asserted in court documents was an “abusive, transphobic, defamatory” thread targeting her on the forum since August last year.

In hundreds of posts, the Kiwi Farm’s users discussed information about her work, her partner and her family. They shared “vile and baseless” allegations that she was a rapist and a liar and that she had molested and threatened subordinates, which the judge found caused serious harm to her “very good” reputation.

Messages were sent to work colleagues and posted under her employer’s online videos.

In September 2022, a picnic with supporters she hosted in Sydney’s Hyde Park was surreptitiously photographed and pictures of participants were posted on the forum too.

Run by Joshua Moon, one of Kiwi Farms’s main activities is the sustained exposure of people the site deems worthy of derision – as the site describes it, “lolcows” that are “milked” for entertainment.

The case claimed that a Brisbane-based company, Flow Chemical, and its sole director, Vincent Zhen, were “instrumental” to its publication and for keeping it accessible, even though they were not the authors of the defamatory Kiwi Farms thread.

Because the matter was undefended, an interlocutory judgment was made against Flow Chemical and Zhen in July and Fong-Jones was awarded damages of $445,000 plus costs this week.

The Australian connection​

Digging into the infrastructure behind Kiwi Farms when it was accessible online, Fong-Jones and her team found there were blocks of IP addresses that appeared to be obtained from the Asia-Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC), which administers IP addresses for the Asia-Pacific.

Flow Chemical is the registered owner of these IP blocks, according to court documents, “a subset of one which allows 1776 Solutions LLC to host the Kiwi Farms website”. Its sole director, business records show, is a Brisbane man named Vincent Zhen.

For a while, it was just another weird fact about the site. “No one really had any idea whether this was a red herring,” Fong-Jones said. “No one thought about the implications of this as far as Australian law [was concerned].”

Fong-Jones, an American, spends part of each year in Australia and this connection meant she also had recourse to the local legal system. At first Fong-Jones tried getting action against Kiwi Farms and Flow Chemical via Australian authorities, including via the eSafety Commissioner.

The agency attempted to contact Kiwi Farms in May 2022 with takedown notices for Class 1 material – a category of illegal and restricted online content – but the site ignored the request, telling eSafety to shove its “‘fines’ up your arse”, according to documents obtained under FoI.

A spokesperson for eSafety told Guardian Australia the commissioner has no power to seize IP addresses or servers. As there was no evidence Flow Chemical directly hosted Kiwi Farms discussion forums where the thread was posted, the spokesperson said it had no power to issue a notice to the company.

Then Fong-Jones started to look into her private rights of action, bringing the defamation case in May this year.

For her, the Australian lawsuit had motivations both strategic and personal. “The defamation, the threats to my life, the attempt to get me fired, they’ve gotten so extreme that it’s important at this point to vindicate my reputation,” she said. “To show that there are consequences for engaging in this activity, specifically against me.”

Zhen did not respond to a request for comment.
 

thefrogninja

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Josh responds.
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Vincent is his friend, right? @The Gays From LA It's a little strange Josh wants to defend him more than he himself does. According to Josh, Vincent believed the case would be dismissed if he sat on his thumbs and did absolutely nothing.
 

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Me after this and when he inevitably loses to Greer:
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I'm starting to understand why you like blogposting about your edgelorg anti-"moralfag" shit, killing children and fetish anime so much.

You're either a tranny or a femcel.

This has been said a thousand times but Null needs to stop burning bridges like with Nick Rekieta
Do you think that pervert can help him in any legal battle?
 

Slaughter

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This has been said a thousand times but Null needs to stop burning bridges like with Nick Rekieta. And inviting pariahs like ‘poltards’ for freeze peach and then wondering why his forum is chock full of people he dislikes vaguely.
Nick Rekieta did it to himself. Josh had no part in that. I do agree Josh needs to be careful but Nick was on a downward spiral without Josh's influence. Josh tried to give him some good advice, but Nick didn't want to stop.

He was faced with his own poor choices and instead of owning them he decided to act like a bitter pussy and blame other people for their reactions to his choices. Nick continues to prove himself to be unsuitable for anything other than law commentary, and even that is questionable. He's like a sports announcer who wants to pretend he's played football when the last time that announcer actually did any sort of sport was in elementary school.

Good riddance to Rekieta, but Josh could definitely poach some of Nick's friend circle of competent attorneys. It isn't like Nick hasn't burned those bridges either.
 

Freya

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Based LFJ handing kiwifarms and its infrastructure another L.
She can't keep getting away with it!!!! Kiwixisters rise up!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

The Gays From LA

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Vincent is his friend, right? @The Gays From LA It's a little strange Josh wants to defend him more than he himself does. According to Josh, Vincent believed the case would be dismissed if he sat on his thumbs and did absolutely nothing.

Not only is Vincent Null's best friend, Null was going to travel to China for the first time together with Vincent and alluded to already having done so. Null has interviewed Vincent on MATI, and most recently in the summer of 2022 praised Vincent on MATI for being the only person who has ever given Null "sage life advice" on how to be a Real Man (I need to find that segment, it's quite hilarious now in retrospect). In other words, Null takes sage advice on how to be a Real Man from a man who apparently doesn't even know that when you're sued, you really do have to respond, no matter how plainly frivolous or bad faith the lolsuit against you seems to be. If this is the kind of "sage life advice" that Null has been getting from Vincent all these years... :rolleyes:

Null's 先生 is a man who doesn't bother to respond to a lawsuit because "it's so stupid, obviously it's going to be thrown out"... dude, if it was that simple, if a judge could just look at a motion and decide on his own that the case is frivolous or pointless, there would be no lawyers, there would be no legal profession. The whole point of the legal industry is that when you get sued, you have to go to court and explain to the judge that this or that lolsuit is bad faith and spurious and needs to be thrown out. That's what lawfaring and harassment lolsuits are all about, forcing you to go to court to go to court to explain the freaking obvious to a judge.

It's so interesting to me how Kiwis don't know anything about Vincent, despite how instrumental and important Vincent has been to Null all these years:

Calm down bro. If I sue you for 8 million dollars for something totally fake and you never respond, I can automatically win my case against you. That’s what happened here. It has nothing to do with free speech, except that whatever defense could have been raised was waived by the defendant never responding. This defendant probably is in some bug hive in China right now, and it’s nearly assured that LFJ will have to spend a bunch of money to even try to collect on any amount of his judgment.

A judgment is only a nice piece of paper to frame and put on the wall if you can’t actually enforce it against anyone.


"This defendant probably is in some bug hive in China right now"
, LMAOOO, Vincent literally said in his interview with Null that he considers himself Australian and only likes to go to China on vacation.

So is not knowing Josh's physical address the only thing keeping Liz from suing him? Seems easily remedied.

No, Fong-Jones definitely knows where Null is. One of Liz's #DropKiwiFarms associates openly stated on Twitter during that campaign that he has people following Null around in Serbia, if this statement is true then Liz Fong-Jones knows where Null is. Liz doesn't want to sue Null because Null is American and so is Liz, so Liz knows it's pointless to go after KF in the US because of strong 1A protections and Section 230. Furthermore, there is OSINT indictating that Liz Fong-Jones aided and abetted a cybercriminal campaign against KiwiFarms under the guise of anti-bullying activism. OSINT indicates that Liz Fong-Jones used #DropKiwiFarms to aid and abet cybercrimes against KF, and that #DropKiwiFarms was set up to enable such a cybercriminal campaign against the website from its very inception. The cybercrimes that were committed against KiwiFarms weren't just a side-effect of #DropKiwiFarms but the very aim of the campaign. If Liz sues Null in the US, Null can have Liz deposed and questioned under oath, during which questioning he will have to answer questions about his cybercriminal activities during #DropKiwiFarms, a lot of which were publically admitted by him and his associates on social media, so he can't walk those statements back now (why do you think Liz nuked all of his social media?). Null can also perform discovery on Liz Fong-Jones to reveal the true extent of Liz Fong-Jones' cybercriminal conspiracy against KF. Liz doesn't want that, so he avoids suing Null directly. Instead he goes after Null's best friend, which is very sadistic of him, but then again, Liz Fong-Jones is a sadist but so is Null.

If Null was smart he would've sued Liz Fong-Jones first over #DropKiwiFarms' cybercrimes, now he has to play defense and is in a weaker position. He should've attacked first, he would've been in a stronger position now.
 

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Not only is Vincent Null's best friend, Null was going to travel to China for the first time together with Vincent and alluded to already having done so. Null has interviewed Vincent on MATI, and most recently in the summer of 2022 praised Vincent on MATI for being the only person who has ever given Null "sage life advice" on how to be a Real Man (I need to find that segment, it's quite hilarious now in retrospect). In other words, Null takes sage advice on how to be a Real Man from a man who apparently doesn't even know that when you're sued, you really do have to respond, no matter how plainly frivolous or bad faith the lolsuit against you seems to be. If this is the kind of "sage life advice" that Null has been getting from Vincent all these years... :rolleyes:

Null's 先生 is a man who doesn't bother to respond to a lawsuit because "it's so stupid, obviously it's going to be thrown out"... dude, if it was that simple, if a judge could just look at a motion and decide on his own that the case is frivolous or pointless, there would be no lawyers, there would be no legal profession. The whole point of the legal industry is that when you get sued, you have to go to court and explain to the judge that this or that lolsuit is bad faith and spurious and needs to be thrown out. That's what lawfaring and harassment lolsuits are all about, forcing you to go to court to go to court to explain the freaking obvious to a judge.

It's so interesting to me how Kiwis don't know anything about Vincent, despite how instrumental and important Vincent has been to Null all these years:



"This defendant probably is in some bug hive in China right now", LMAOOO, Vincent literally said in his interview with Null that he considers himself Australian and only likes to go to China on vacation.



No, Fong-Jones definitely knows where Null is. One of Liz's #DropKiwiFarms associates openly stated on Twitter during that campaign that he has people following Null around in Serbia, if this statement is true then Liz Fong-Jones knows where Null is. Liz doesn't want to sue Null because Null is American and so is Liz, so Liz knows it's pointless to go after KF in the US because of strong 1A protections and Section 230. Furthermore, there is OSINT indictating that Liz Fong-Jones aided and abetted a cybercriminal campaign against KiwiFarms under the guise of anti-bullying activism. OSINT indicates that Liz Fong-Jones used #DropKiwiFarms to aid and abet cybercrimes against KF, and that #DropKiwiFarms was set up to enable such a cybercriminal campaign against the website from its very inception. The cybercrimes that were committed against KiwiFarms weren't just a side-effect of #DropKiwiFarms but the very aim of the campaign. If Liz sues Null in the US, Null can have Liz deposed and questioned under oath, during which questioning he will have to answer questions about his cybercriminal activities during #DropKiwiFarms, a lot of which were publically admitted by him and his associates on social media, so he can't walk those statements back now (why do you think Liz nuked all of his social media?). Null can also perform discovery on Liz Fong-Jones to reveal the true extent of Liz Fong-Jones' cybercriminal conspiracy against KF. Liz doesn't want that, so he avoids suing Null directly. Instead he goes after Null's best friend, which is very sadistic of him, but then again, Liz Fong-Jones is a sadist but so is Null.

If Null was smart he would've sued Liz Fong-Jones first over #DropKiwiFarms' cybercrimes, now he has to play defense and is in a weaker position. He should've attacked first, he would've been in a stronger position now.
Oh okay that seems plausible. You can also knock off the tryhard shit with using the wrong pronouns, I'm pretty sure the cult expelled you anyway.
 
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