Why wouldn't they continue to work with him if they do survive though? That wouldn't make any sense.
Wait, from Xen? You mean from your Xen license?
Isn't this what was assumed from the beginning? I mean by people not on meds.
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Why wouldn't they continue to work with him if they do survive though? That wouldn't make any sense.
Wait, from Xen? You mean from your Xen license?
Isn't this what was assumed from the beginning? I mean by people not on meds.
Jane Doe 1
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He'll find a way.
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Hellovan Onion
Jewsh appears to be placing all his hopes in crypto.
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An Onion Among Onions
Trust the plan. Trust Josh.
Yes, that was a reference to losing the XenForo license.
Go back about a dozen pages in the Joshua Moon thread and start reading from there. We've already discussed all this. The SPLC and Mother Jones both published an article speculating that Null has $300k+ in bitcoin. Furthermore, KF is not his main source of income. KF is just the crowdsource platform that provides exclusive content for MATI, which is what Null really likes to do. Null said in the past that he wanted to be Metokur, so he's always wanted to be livestreamer/podcaster. KF provides him with the research he needs to do original podcasts. Rememer, KF is all the short bus nerds that do Null's homework for him so he doesn't have to do it himself. like other content creators who do have to research their own topics on their own.
Null said yesterday on MATI that Epik weren't pay their bills, including their bills to ICANN, and this financial chaos at Epik was part of reason KF was still offline:
But they just came out and said they've now paid all their bills, including the one to ICANN that Null claimed was personally affecting him. They also want to restore their customer support section:
Keeping KF on Tor and rebranding on clearnet might be the best of both worlds.
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That's an even better idea, I wonder if he's even considered that? He could tighten the rules just enough to appease these woke companies after rebranding, and keep KF as it is.
It true though.
Kramer is A Man Da
Remarkable Onion
i assume everyone in this sector ends up in prison by the time they hit middle age, its like the mafia. eventually the international governments will get fed up and go full kangaroo to fuck everyone. you really think being such a free speech crusader won't come back on him?
it won't stop the trannies,"its just a different name its the exact same thing, so destroy them my minions"
The only way this happens is if Null gets rid of the anti-trans posters. Until that happens, which it won't, he will always have a target on Kiwi Farms.
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Keep discussion of troons on the Tor site. As the current situation demonstrates, it's much harder to take that down.
Jane Doe 1
Dormant
Calm down buckaroo.
SSj_Ness
Baby Onion
That's overcorrecting, probably too far. They can't become sacred cows. There's gotta be some better balance than that.
Is it even worth it at that point? Plus the problem is outright lies being pushed by even mainstream media.. ("3 deaths" etc) It doesn't matter if it's all based on one media org parroting another, who was repeating yet another, who was repeating some activist on twatter who themselves offered no evidence. Attempts to point out little things like the victims themselves, in their an hero notes, not mentioning kiwi or even "abuse", is already outright ignored and blocked. (hell, you can't even talk about them because doing so hurts the various narratives built around them being used to push narratives.) So why would anyone expect anything different if they kind of gave in? Giving in is not going to stop the terrorist kiwis driving people to death narrative or shut the activists up.
To break this down:
(1) Null and the regulars have proven to not believe or respect the TRA narrative. That is already enough to warrant and demand complete public banishment and silencing under modern progressive ideology. (2) These are people who believe in not just guilt by association but guilt by failure to virtue signal with the correct opinions. It wouldn't matter if Null turned the clear-net site into a troon safe space, complete with heavy handed censorship and silencing. The fact that he or the site was in any way connected to kiwi or opinions they don't like, would make him and the site worse then hitler and the nazi party combined for these people. (at least officially/publicly) In fact even without kiwi, it's not clear if a full turn and apology would be enough to save those involved in so subverting troon messaging, to this point... at least not on the level or scale as the farms has done. (3) Kiwi is a great evil for these people. The hysterics filled narratives are already spun up and fully in place. Mere continued existence is all it will take to support a continued holy war and crusade. Especially because they rarely have ever ran into a case where they get told no. The persistence and dissent of the farms, so openly and publicly, means Null nor the site can ever be left alone at this point. For ego and the show. (remember, mere mild questioning is "literal" life and death.. genocide, in these people's narrative. Kiwi has publicly pushed it to outright dissent.. and not politely either.)
Not to mention that's giving them a DANGEROUS victory. I mean there is no fallback or alt at this point. If they win here, the open net is officially dead. Importantly, not on a legal level. Free speech online literally means nothing even in the US with this.
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While all of this is true, if the site did come back up on the clearnet, Null would go right back to telling people who say the things you're saying to leave his site, and how annoying he finds you and people like you ruined his site. This is going to be an endless cycle with Null until Kiwi Farms is finally taken down, and Null will only have himself to blame.
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Kiwifarms somehow being the last outpost of free speech when Null bans anyone who offers to help him or tries to make the site better
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lmao even
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lmao even
Whether he or it lives up to some standard is irrelevant. At least against people who openly attack the very concept. More importantly, it's not Null or the nature of the site (beyond not being illegal) that matters, it's what is happening and HOW. As a sort of canary in the coal mine at the very least. Plus imagine anyone with even half the autistic.... resolve, trying to deal with this shit.. or the personal attacks and likely ruination of their lives. We know what most would do and do. They give in and play along how they are told.
Wait, onion lost theirs too?! Crap. Xenfraud's certainly living up to their rep as petty, opinionated fuckwads. And another clear sign of the dangers faced. Build your own indeed. This also goes right along with what we are saying about the futility of trying to meet these people half way, or "tone it down" (give in) in an attempt to get left alone.
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