Obscenity2022
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slav power is back, he was banned for like a week or more, anyone got any info on that?
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nobodyworthwhile
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This doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. The first problem is what do you mean by "Aryan?" I assume you basically mean "white" but even if so, any idiot can tell you that an American White, British White, Irish White, White bread, white milkshake, white joycons etc. are not exactly a cultural monolith (which right there shoots holes in the idea that skin color = predetermined behavior but let's move on).
Second problem is there would still have been centuries where these groups had never met white people, and IIRC possibly even a long stretch of time where they were isolated. And yet they're not extinct. Sorry, but saying "we protected them just like we protect pandas" doesn't account for this, unless you're suggesting they were saved by time travellers (maybe even ones with flying blue police boxes)?
Notice the part I bolded there.
This argument reminds me of a trick gun control advocates like to use, where they try to prove gun control works by showing crime statistics that only account for gun-related violence but conveniently leave out all other types of crime. Or in your case, you're focusing exclusively on the US (and on the parts that have high crime rates) and trying to say this somehow proves biological predeterminism.
You yourself pointed out that there's practically no law enforcement in these communities. That makes me see this as a chicken-or-egg scenario. It's entirely possible that these places have high crime precisely because enforcement is so lax, rather than "they realized it was pointless and stopped trying."
I went to an all-white school (I grew up in the south) and I know from experience that white people aren't angels. Especially when there's lax enforcement or blatant favoritism at play.
Obscenity2022
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its easy to be a tribal, but i wouldn't consider that civilized. imagine saying the abbos and the englishmen who found them were anywhere close to the same level of civilized or that abbos on their own could have accomplished such
i mean the entire 20th century history of urban american policing proves that it wasn't just "law enforcement decided to stop trying and therefore crime increased"
like a typical lib, believing favoritism and lax enforcement has nothing to do with pattern recognition and everything to do with just dumb racism.
and this is a big reason why you see a lot of "tabula rasa" nonsense from southerners. the same way you'll see plenty of people go "global warming doesn't exist" because they live in the north and its still fucking cold there.
beyond that why the fuck would someone who has never interacted with a minority argue with me about their behavior. its like if i argued with you about how Auburn has the worst football team despite me never having seen or watched it in my entire life.
nobodyworthwhile
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Already resorting to putting words in my mouth? Or else point out where I said crime is just caused by "dumb racism."
Also assuming I must be a "lib" because I'm not frothing at the mouth. You really do belong on Kiwi Farms. You gonna accuse me of being a troon next?
I said I didn't go to school with them. I did not say "I never interacted with a minority."
You wanna talk about pattern recognition? Every time I argue with a white supremacist, they always start putting words in my mouth or completely misreading things.
Okay then, define "civilized." I'll wait.
Already loosening those goalposts for a potential move. First its "not civilized" then its "not the same level of civilized as Englishmen." In the same paragraph, no less.
Also, you keep ignoring the "time" question. I get the feeling if I don't press that, you'll try to compare a 700bc grass hut village against 1700s London.
Just gonna re-quote your earlier argument:
Just thought I'd re-quote this in case you try to memory hole it. You were first to make the argument that law enforcement just gave up, just you're trying to phrase it as "they gave up because they realized these people were natural criminals." All I'm doing is pointing out there's room to read this scenario the other way around.
I haven't even looked into whether anything you've said is even true yet, I'm only working with the scenario you yourself handed out and pointing out the issues with your own narrative.
Prediction: You're going to tell me to do my own research.
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So to drag this around to this topic's proper place of "look how stupid Kiwi Farms is," this discussion reminded me of this topic from awhile back.
I pointed out, somewhere in that very topic, that this theory makes no sense for the same reason Kender (a race from a D&D setting) make no sense, as 1d6chan explains here. It's very similar to the arguments I've been making above though: basically, if black people really do have the biologically predetermined shortcomings that racists like to claim they do, they should not have survived even five generations (and that is being generous).
You can even test this yourself, in Minecraft (as in, the actual game--not a metaphor for anything): Start a new world, put it on "Hardcore" mode, then play your character as if he really does act like a white supremacist's idea of a black person--anyone you meet you have to kill because you're biologically disposed towards crime, you can't build anything beyond wooden tools or any structure more complex than a mud hut, and any task that would take longer than ten minutes you must give up on.
Tell me how long you last.
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Obscenity2022
Hellovan Onion
oh darling do you not know when we were making first contact in the late 19th century they still had grass huts? sort of weird to assume those stopped existing when rome was founded. hell last i checked they were still using hutts in those few tribes that aren't in regular contact with the rest of the planet. Shaka Zulu was considered the napoleon of sub saharan africans because he was able to figure out how to get his fellow tribesmen walking in formation. he was about 3 millenia off from when the greeks figured it out but they still gave him a fuck load of credit.
there would be if we didn't have interviews and footage and lots of unconscious conclusions pointing to demographic change leading to demotivated policing, such as Miami post-boatlift. or Flint after the plants closed or plenty of other examples that can be attributed to white flight because of demographic change.
its like de-segregation or the bussing movement of the 1970s, like in general every person starts with your thinking, but once they reach the bottom of the glass they end up realizing "we were judging them by their character the entire time" like when you look at school funding and especially inner city funding vs gate funding its rather obvious how there isn't really a cultural issue.
its like gender, despite what many girl power 90s college doctoral thesis' and men that went to all boys schools will tell you, the best women at any sport can still regularly be beaten by any relatively fit male. no matter how many personal anecdotes or bad projections will tell you otherwise, the best women's soccer players or basketball players or hockey players will almost always get beaten by high school athletes. now that doesn't mean women can't play sports like most people instantly go to when arguing because its easier to prove wrong when you go black or white. but obviously their level of sport will never progress above what a bunch of high schoolers would be able to knock out.
going back to race its a similar thing, yeah mud hutts and subsistence farming are a level of civilization but its certainly not where one would hope to peak. Haiti is a great example, when we brought 5% of the population to Ohio, did they eat food like the rest of the people of ohio or did they eat the cats and dogs and act like they did back in Haiti.
Well since no one’s answered yet, I’ll throw my hat in the ring
Assuming a splinter isn’t made, I feel like a lot of lolcows would rejoice over “being free” sort of. The sharty would probably be demonized more since there isn’t a softer alliterative to glare at anymore. People might be a lot more open with their eccentricities. Some other lolcow sites would try to come up, unable to accept the simple fact that this culture is fucking dead and should stay dead.
I think “saar” is cause Indians tend to be overly formal in speech, and their accents make “sir” sound like “saar”. “Do the needful” is a common way for English speaking Indians to say “Do what needs to be done”.
@nobodyworthwhile, why are you wasting your time arguing with this retard?
I’m joking, you can do whatever you want
Without mentioning Josh's stupid idea to lock the Destiny thread, Kiwifarms user Pentamidine comes to Josh's defense over his "principle" to ONLY call people pedophiles if they're attracted to women below the age of 10.
Obscenity2022
Hellovan Onion
the destiny stuff is such bullshit too. we all know that if a kiwifarms user went "yeah i'd love to fuck a 17 year old girl" null would permaban him so fucking fast and the rest of the forum would dogpile hard. hell josh accuses people that like anime or vtubers of being pedos but literally wanting to fuck women below the age of consent is a-ok with him.
outside of all those multihour videos all over youtube and then those videos being clipped and put on the rest of the internet. like kiwifarms is rather vestigial to lolcow culture, the same way redbar used to be the only person shittalking joe rogan and his podcast comedian friends back in 2019, and now every one is doing it.
nobodyworthwhile
Remarkable Onion
@Home On the topic of a post-KF internet, one thing I might miss is their information resources.
It's sad to remember KF was actually good at one time, and I think they were to some degree instrumental in helping push back against Social Justice insanity--not the least of which by hosting docks that revealed most of the big names in the movement were lying grifters. For myself I recall I stopped taking Hbomberguy seriously when I learned about his history of being a creep and harassing women online.
As for why I'm spending time arguing with Obscenity?..... because I've been stuck home all day and there's nothing to do WEEEAAAARRRRGH! Sometimes a good slapfight is theraputic. Also I do like to practice basic logical thinking, asking "is there a good reason to believe this?"
It's sad to remember KF was actually good at one time, and I think they were to some degree instrumental in helping push back against Social Justice insanity--not the least of which by hosting docks that revealed most of the big names in the movement were lying grifters. For myself I recall I stopped taking Hbomberguy seriously when I learned about his history of being a creep and harassing women online.
As for why I'm spending time arguing with Obscenity?..... because I've been stuck home all day and there's nothing to do WEEEAAAARRRRGH! Sometimes a good slapfight is theraputic. Also I do like to practice basic logical thinking, asking "is there a good reason to believe this?"
