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Kiwifarms Gossip Is there any evidence that Kiwifamrs did dox and harass people into suicide. / Jacob S. Blaustein thread

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Not really.


Who knows.


Sort of depends what you mean. Users of the site definitely go out and try to get cows harassed or doxed, but there is a boiler plate "we don't officially condone such things" response to any such accusations.
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Keffals' last location in Canada was doxed on Kiwifarms and IMMEDIATELY he was sent lots of food. Dox info requires an account to see in most cases. Only a fool would suggest users of the site weren't the main culprits.
Well, there you go then. Is there more collected. Because while they don't plan harassment on the site, the fact that it happens right afterwards is a big fucking correlation.
 

【VOID】

Retired Staff
You know what I mean. Kiwi farms finds very obscure people and try to bring them to a wider audience...why? Why do that? You say "it's natural thus good" but that is fallacious reasoning.
Labeling the complexities of nature, evolution and life itself "fallacious" as though life can make mistakes is the lowest form of sophistry. Ignoring the fact that I never assigned a moral value to nature. It is what it is. Hume's law cuts both ways, champ.
 

【VOID】

Retired Staff
It was victim-blaiming i.e. "It was their own damn fault". And called them "anti-social". Those were moral values.

However I feel this distracts from the fact that the doxxing they do leads to harassment. Any other evidence anyone here can provide?
It's not a moral value; the overton window may be a cringe meme but it's also a reality. As social norms shift towards one direction or another or grow or shrink to encompass XYZ groups as the "norm" that necessarily means that everything outside of the norm is abnormal. Any other belief is idealistic and utopic.
Think about it critically for even 30 seconds, take it to the extremes. Lets say that in the most extreme case, pedophilia becomes normalized then obviously anti-pedophile sentiments would be outside of the norm, anti-pedophiles would be mocked for their "outdated viewpoints"
Play around with it. Include any group or as many groups as you want in your mind and then think about the groups which would be excluded from the norm if those groups became the new normal.

If people wish to be trailblazers and shift norms towards what is considered weird at best, perversion at worst today then they have to be prepared to deal with the kinds of criticisms that other visionaries faced otherwise they should step aside.
Should Kero the Wolf not have been exposed? What about Snakething? Do those names mean anything to you?

>doxxing
lol okay.
 
It's not a moral value; the overton window may be a cringe meme but it's also a reality. As social norms shift towards one direction or another or grow or shrink to encompass XYZ groups as the "norm" that necessarily means that everything outside of the norm is abnormal.
No that is the fallacy. Which is a form of sophistry in of itself. You aren't determining if something is good or bad based on it's own merits but what "society" says.
Think about it critically for even 30 seconds, take it to the extremes. Lets say that in the most extreme case, pedophilia becomes normalized then obviously anti-pedophile sentiments would be outside of the norm, anti-pedophiles would be mocked for their "outdated viewpoints"
And that is ok with you? You do realize you hurt your own argument here...
 

【VOID】

Retired Staff
No that is the fallacy. Which is a form of sophistry in of itself. You aren't determining if something is good or bad based on it's own merits but what "society" says.
Ah you're immune to subtlety and nuance.
And that is ok with you? You do realize you hurt your own argument here...
Yes. I'm okay with it.
Your arguments are just "well it should be X instead of Y" how do you know X is better than Y. Have you considered the potential consequences of this universal tolerance you seem to be alluding to? What downsides do you think there might be. If you can't think of a single downside then you haven't thought about it long enough.

Let me ask you this. Which groups do you think should stay in the closet. Do you think pedophiles or zoophiles should have their lifestyles normalized? Should they be beyond criticism by virtue of simply existing? Because that seems to be the overall nature of your argument. "If people are doing things it's no one's business"
Do you have a limit to that? Should a limit exist?
 

sick twist

Baby Onion
No that is the fallacy. Which is a form of sophistry in of itself. You aren't determining if something is good or bad based on it's own merits but what "society" says.

And that is ok with you? You do realize you hurt your own argument here...
Question:

With the amount of threads and users on KF I think it is it fair to say this is a case of bad actors misusing a site.

I constantly hear how not all furries are zoophiles, and not all transfolk are predators etc and the bad ones poison the perceptions of those groups.

Why is KF not afforded the same logic it is asked we apply to those groups?
 

naught

`he who laughs last laughs best`
Registered
Wasn't Byuu a Japanense citizen at that point?
Yes there would be a record of his death, which there isn't no one named David Ginder died in Japan.

Well that said is there evidence here on this site of Kiwifarms encouraging harassement?
If anything it's the reverse with trying to protect certain cows.

I should point out that it's none of Kiwifarms' business with what they do. After all they are the agressors, which means they can't handle it.
they made their fetsishes a matter of public record, if they get mad when that info is republished that's their problem.
 

thefrogninja

JDANKS420
An Onion Among Onions
Maybe a year or two ago a user went to have sex with DSP's schizophrenic sister (or some other relative) with the intent to take nude photos of her and upload it to the site, which he did.
 

thefrogninja

JDANKS420
An Onion Among Onions
Well, there you go then. Is there more collected. Because while they don't plan harassment on the site, the fact that it happens right afterwards is a big fucking correlation.
I can only recall this being done to Keffals, lolcow Ethan Ralph and his dozen swattings, and DSP. A user doxed all of DSP's neighbors then blamed DSP for it.
 

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Hellovan Onion
Yes, plenty, are you fucking blind?

From Doxemon to the Bloodsports prank calls in which Josh partaked.

The fact that one of the most stupid users in the website, Zedkissed, was never banned and even got admired by other users and got to be a moderator was enterely due to him doxing lots and lots of people.



Sort of depends what you mean. Users of the site definitely go out and try to get cows harassed or doxed, but there is a boiler plate "we don't officially condone such things" response to any such accusations.
Well, there you go then. Is there more collected. Because while they don't plan harassment on the site, the fact that it happens right afterwards is a big fucking correlation.
Oh come the fuck on, saying that they're not the "Autistic Illuminati" and that they don't condone "trolling, harassment or cyberbullying" is like saying "in Minecraft" after a terrorist threat.
How can people take that with any seriousness? Especially when Null, the manchild himself, will say that and 10 minutes later go on do "life ruination gayops" and partake in "Bloodsports"

This is so obvious it is even a meme in the Bloodsports community, they will meme saying "I disavow, I disavow"



im not gonna help you write a hit piece on Kiwi farms, lurk moar all the info is here lol.
I am.
How much are you paying @289Blue ?
 

thefrogninja

JDANKS420
An Onion Among Onions
Another admission of harassment from a user from the supposedly "agenda-less" Kiwifarms. Also...
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If Kiwifarms wants to harass credibly accused pedophiles and groomers that's fine, but you can't deny it on one hand then sticky a message on to Keffals' thread begging the police to "do your job" on the other.
 
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Nektar Geist

An Onion Among Onions
Well that said is there evidence here on this site of Kiwifarms encouraging harassement?
kiwi farms is an internet forum board. It cannot encourage anything. Have you thought of getting an account and researching evidence of farmers doing it? Seems like a much more productive thing to do.
I should point out that it's none of Kiwifarms' business with what they do. After all they are the agressors, which means they can't handle it.
is English your first language?
Except Kiwifarms goes out of it's way to "expose" these people who are on private forums or the like. Not exactly acting in public.
twitter? Youtube? You say shit to the world, world gonna say shit back to you.
You know what I mean. Kiwi farms finds very obscure people and try to bring them to a wider audience...why? Why do that? You say "it's natural thus good" but that is fallacious reasoning.
It's like Wigan Casino punters trying to find that rare 45, or Bluesologists with their Ya Ya s out. People to out of their way to find new and interesting lolcows. Ok sometimes there is a bit of politics behind it. But all lolcows deserve to have their thread.
Thus it is the kiwi's business to get involved/spread it around? You guys seem to think "free access" = "our duty to bother them".
"Don't touch the poo". It's sage advice, but mentally ill people are going to mentally ill, right? But here's a question:

What's worse: Kerfuffels getting a taste of his own medicine or the media covering up the murder of an 8 year old girl, just because ideology? Kerfuffels, like joshy, is a tard who fucked up their own life, and wants a personal army to fight back against the "Oppressors" (ie people who are smart enough, about 8rd grade level, to realise what cunts they are and point it out in public.

So, you're some lazy fare who wants us to help you bring down KF.

Tl/dr Kerfuffels is a cunt and a danger to children. So is joshy, for that matter.
 
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