KF Speculation 🤔 The end of kiwifarms

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www.onionfarms.com

go here to sperg about trannies and stop shitting up thread

A bit late for that, we stopped talking about pronouns a while ago.

 

[Gamercat]

A bit late for that, we stopped talking about pronouns a while ago.

A for effort :-[

 

[Nektar Geist]

How is any of that worse than preying on children?

We've been told not to shit up the thread, but... One of the people he sent threats to was a child.

The end of kiwi farms, as predicted by Aunt Adam, was down to joshy. If not for him...

 

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We've been told not to shit up the thread, but... One of the people he sent threats to was a child.

Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.

 

[sick twist]

Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.

Why do you think this matters?

Both people are shitty. One being worse doesn't matter. It's like trying to decide if a warlord who committed cannibalism should put to death harder than one who one raped people first.

 

[Nektar Geist]

Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.

It was a girl. He has a thread here. You might want to read it. And yes, in a legal sense, it is worse. Threatening to rape and murder is against the law.

So, at best, for joshy, it's 6 of one, isn't it? At best, he's just as much of a cunt as Fuff. At best.

 

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Well, shit. Now you've got me curious. What was the threat that Josh sent to the kid? Did he call him a faggot? Did he promise to rape his bussy? Must've been one hell of a threat if it's worse than running a catboy ranch or telling children to take homemade HRT behind their parents' backs.

Her name was Stocking and you can read all about it here: https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/joshua-moons-blocklands-saga-restored.2839/

 

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Why do you think this matters?

Both people are shitty. One being worse doesn't matter. It's like trying to decide if a warlord who committed cannibalism should put to death harder than one who one raped people first.

What's wrong with comparing lolcows? I thought the whole point of this site was to discuss them.

It was a girl. He has a thread here. You might want to read it. And yes, in a legal sense, it is worse. Threatening to rape and murder is against the law.

So, at best, for joshy, it's 6 of one, isn't it? At best, he's just as much of a cunt as Fuff. At best.

I'm working my way through his megathread. It's pretty long. While you might be right in a legal sense (I know that child grooming is legal in the US, but I'm not sure about Canada), I think it's funny that sending threatening messages to someone can be considered worse than causing IRL harm to children. Granted, I'm not saying that what Josh did was okay, even for a teenager, just that one caused damage to children in real life and the other, as far as I know, didn't.

Her name was Stocking and you can read all about it here: https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/joshua-moons-blocklands-saga-restored.2839/

Thanks.

 

[sick twist]

What's wrong with comparing lolcows? I thought the whole point of this site was to discuss them.



I'm working my way through his megathread. It's pretty long. While you might be right in a legal sense (I know that child grooming is legal in the US, but I'm not sure about Canada), I think it's funny that sending threatening messages to someone can be considered worse than causing IRL harm to children. Granted, I'm not saying that what Josh did was okay, even for a teenager, just that one caused damage to children in real life and another, as far as I know, didn't.



Thanks.

There's nothing wrong with it. It's just weird you're acting like there is some kind of algorithm proof you can use to show Josh is 0.05% less shit than Keffals and I'm asking why you think it matters, not telling you to stop.

 

[Nektar Geist]

just that one caused damage to children in real life and the other, as far as I know, didn't.

Good point about "as far as I know", as you aren't really that clued up about joshy (no offense, most KFers aren't, people tend to focus on the cows they are interested in).

But, again, read the thread, his constant association with CP (but maybe you're in the "it's just pictures!"), his connection with school shooters... I could go on.

Kerfuffels is a mentally ill man (like joshy), is a sexual pervert (like joshy), likes to surround himself with young people with social problems (like joshy).

The point: Who is worse, is academic, it depends on your moral standpoint. The point: This situation is completely joshys doing, is objectively fact.

 

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There's nothing wrong with it. It's just weird you're acting like there is some kind of algorithm proof you can use to show Josh is 0.05% less shit than Keffals and I'm asking why you think it matters, not telling you to stop.

People in this thread are saying that the reason KiwiFarms is being attacked is because Josh is a sperg and this made KF a lightning rod for attacks from all angles, which is why Keffals' campaign has seen so much support and has been successful so far. My claim is that it doesn't matter that Josh is a sperg, and that the real reason KF is being attacked is because the site has archived malicious/illegal activity from troon lolcows and now the troons are trying to scrub this info from the internet. Because they're troons, they get full support from tech companies, not because tech companies are aware of all of Josh's lore and are taking advantage of finally having a reason to take him down. While arguing this, I said that the reason Keffals has so much support isn't because he's more respectable than Null, which is what everyone else fixated on.

I dunno. It'd be like if people argued that the reason Destiny was facing deplatforming issues during Keffals' attacks on him was because he's a sexual degenerate, then I point out that he's always been a degen but wasn't getting hammered until he started speaking out against troons competing against biowomen in sports, and that Keffals is a bigger sexual degenerate anyway, then people insisted that Destiny is actually the bigger sex pervert and the conversation just devolved into arguing whether a groomer pedo troon is worse than a cuck who thinks there's such a thing as ethical incest and CP.

 

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People in this thread are saying that the reason KiwiFarms is being attacked is because Josh is a sperg and this made KF a lightning rod for attacks from all angles, which is why Keffals' campaign has seen so much support and has been successful so far. My claim is that it doesn't matter that Josh is a sperg, and that the real reason KF is being attacked is because the site has archived malicious/illegal activity from troon lolcows and now the troons are trying to scrub this info from the internet. Because they're troons, they get full support from tech companies, not because tech companies are aware of all of Josh's lore and are taking advantage of finally having a reason to take him down. While arguing this, I said that the reason Keffals has so much support isn't because he's more respectable than Null, which is what everyone else fixated on.

I dunno. It'd be like if people argued that the reason Destiny was facing deplatforming issues during Keffals' attacks on him was because he's a sexual degenerate, then I point out that he's always been a degen but wasn't getting hammered until he started speaking out against troons competing against biowomen in sports, and that Keffals is a bigger sexual degenerate anyway, then people insisted that Destiny is actually the bigger sex pervert and the conversation just devolved into arguing whether a groomer pedo troon is worse than a cuck who thinks there's such a thing as ethical incest and CP.

Oh its easier than that.

Kiwi Farms is framed often as engaging in libel. Troons routinely have convinced others things like the archived pages are faked by users or taken out of context. A lot of the worst behavior by trannies is further viewed as "just one bad actor" and not representative of the whole. Trannies on a whole note have done really well with the PR campaigns and constantly can just fall back on the non-existent perfectly passing tranny who never bothers anyone that totally does really exist in massive numbers.

Josh shot himself in his doubtlessly size 5 foot because the places he came in contact with groups outside of KF (New Zealand, journalists who emailed him) by telling them to fuck off. He established himself to people who never visit KF as this hot headed idiot and that makes it easier for people at large to give the benefit of the doubt to troons who managed to not get banned on every public platform.

 

[Nektar Geist]

You seem to have a massive blind spot, when it comes to joshy the broom.

Counterpoint: joshy has a history of illegal activities, and due to no one really knowing who he was, he got away with it. Then people started to notice. And the tech companies wanted nothing to do with "Back Door" joshy. He himself fucked off any good will he had. That had nothing to do with troonatics, big tech, just joshys malformed ego.

If he hadn't been a cunt, hadn't turned a site he just jannied (badly) into his own blankey, none of this would have happened.

 

[Deleted member 1141]

Hey @░░░▓▓▓▓▓▓ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้ nice to see you here.

I think Josh makes a convenient but ultimately stupid target. His offenses pale in comparison to what gets walked by every day on the internet. And it's all going to get exposed.

I understand why he has some enemies. I understand he's fun for some people to poke at. Doesn't change the fact that kiwi farms isn't illegal and he shouldn't be forced to take it off the internet.

(stanning Null isn't popular here...but w/e)


Null is also 100% right about the fact that if kiwi farms goes, the precedent will be used to silence minority voices all over the place. And eventually the vulnerable group you care about will be hit. And it will happen faster than you can imagine.

 

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Hey @░░░▓▓▓▓▓▓ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้ nice to see you here.

I think Josh makes a convenient but ultimately stupid target. His offenses pale in comparison to what gets walked by every day on the internet. And it's all going to get exposed.

I understand why he has some enemies. I understand he's fun for some people to poke at. Doesn't change the fact that kiwi farms isn't illegal and he shouldn't be forced to take it off the internet.

(stanning Null isn't popular here...but w/e)

Do people get how Bill of rights and shit works?

Let's play US lesson for laws:

Corporations were ruled ages ago as individuals in terms of the rights they maintain. This is a big reason why you don't see the government not being able to roll in and open someone's books to make sure they aren't embezzling without having to go through the same process they so getting warrants and such on individuals.

The implication there is the way the first amendment has historically been interpreted is that the government, and only the government, can't do shit to impede your freedom of speech. Corporations need no more justifications than anyone else here would need to block you from using their services.

Josh's game of being this last bastion of Freedom of Speech meant nothing because it wasn't ever the government after him. He needed to play a game of nice because he was dealing with businesses not government agencies. His rights don't mean much more than they do to another individual to Cloudflare.

Rights are a legal construct and questions of if it's good or bad are irrelevant.

 

[Nektar Geist]

Doesn't change the fact that kiwi farms isn't illegal and he shouldn't be forced to take it off the internet.

This isn't the point. It's about joshy and what he has done to put himself in this situation. Xenforo was before Fuff. It's about the fact no one wants to deal with him (and reasonably so, the guy is dodgy). If someone took over KF tomorrow, it would be back up.

Josh's game of being this last bastion of Freedom of Speech meant nothing because...

... he is a thin skinned noncetard who banned anyone who "spoke weird words".

tl/dr joshy isn't a victim of "the man", the troons, or the people who warned him this would happen ages ago. He is a victim of his own personality disorder.

 

[Jetstream Sharpe]

I'm sorry that SJWism has melted your brain, you should just go outside instead of focusing on the cherry picked dishitcord figures, then maybe you will start understand that not all LGBTQ++ is bad unlike whatever /pol/ has told you
BTW that's why your side is losing, you know you really fucked up when your side has worse reputation than a fucking failed fart pornstar.

When exactly was null on our side, again? He's LGBTQ++.... he's shotasexual

 

[Boobie Bomb]

When exactly was null on our side, again? He's LGBTQ++.... he's shotasexual

Null is just a faggot. He will never score

 

[Deleted member 1141]

Do people get how Bill of rights and shit works?

Let's play US lesson for laws:

Corporations were ruled ages ago as individuals in terms of the rights they maintain. This is a big reason why you don't see the government not being able to roll in and open someone's books to make sure they aren't embezzling without having to go through the same process they so getting warrants and such on individuals.

The implication there is the way the first amendment has historically been interpreted is that the government, and only the government, can't do shit to impede your freedom of speech. Corporations need no more justifications than anyone else here would need to block you from using their services.

Josh's game of being this last bastion of Freedom of Speech meant nothing because it wasn't ever the government after him. He needed to play a game of nice because he was dealing with businesses not government agencies. His rights don't mean much more than they do to another individual to Cloudflare.

I didn't say anything about that, tbh. You're not wrong. But corporations are caving under a radical political movement and its demonstrably bad for business. Woke, Inc is effectively poison for capitalism and liberty. Josh is an EASY target, for exactly the reasons you said. That's why he's at the front. The precedent isn't good.

Look at how wildly journalism and corporate media skew issues about which you are an IRL expert. Their pieces on my area of expertise are laughable propaganda. Without exception.

If you're not worried the slope is slippery, so be it. But I gather (maybe brazenly, idc) that you've never been a breastfeeding new mom deprived of places to talk about the real concerns of post partum depression and motherhood by a bunch of rabid troons who demand inclusion and centering in all female spaces. Have you ever had your irl job threatened for refusing to adopt the term "chest feeding"?

Cause until then...idk. It's easy to say josh should have been kinder. But when I look back on that shit, I wish instead of just finding a new job, I'd have kicked some balls on the way out. You get on the wrong side of this, you realize really quickly that there's no "right" way to placate the fucks.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

I didn't say anything about that, tbh. You're not wrong. But corporations are caving under a radical political movement and its demonstrably bad for business. Woke, Inc is effectively poison for capitalism and liberty. Josh is an EASY target, for exactly the reasons you said. That's why he's at the front. The precedent isn't good.

Look at how wildly journalism and corporate media skew issues about which you are an IRL expert. Their pieces on my area of expertise are laughable propaganda. Without exception.

If you're not worried the slope is slippery, so be it. But I gather (maybe brazenly, idc) that you've never been a breastfeeding new mom deprived of places to talk about the real concerns of post partum depression and motherhood by a bunch of rabid troons who demand inclusion and centering in all female spaces.

Trannies are just perverts we kinda already knew that from the get-go