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[Obscenity2022]

Quite fascinating how just one particular tool basically nullifies all kiwiniggers' effort after all, as unforseen byproduct of something breater. Huh.

you know what thats actually an amazing take i haven't thought of, but the flipside is that is why you have people that just go "oh i found this on twitter' or whatever when they steal shit from kiwifarms and ultimately like every 'he said she said' it boils down to who you belive is most trustworthy and just like we saw from Turkey Tom, at a certain point it won't ever matter how much proof someone shows and how unlikely something is because they're just too fucked in the head.

someone posted the johnny depp thread and pretening null interviewed amber heard and thats a great example, plenty of people who don't give a fuck about the evidence and will still preach their side when its wrong. Kiwifarms made sense in a world less divided, when you might have people willing to see something that proves their beliefs wrong but its vestigial now and more honestly was just as useless and outdated years ago.

I think this is what the AI bros think is going to happen but not realizing that there are a lot of wrong horses being backed in this AI bubble. AI is not going away but when the bubble finally bursts then a lot of people are going to be caught with their pants down while more practical AI models stick around longer. If there is one thing that should be learned from the Dot Com Bubble of the 1990's is don't get caught up by blind hype.

i agree with that, like Null going all in on Claude is retarded but as the tech progresses the things people will be able to "homebrew" will increase too, like the photo and video models. I wouldn't invest in AI but i would be fine using AI tech and its obvious that its good enough at most of its current use cases like graphic artistry or other trades where its clear the market has been overpriced, such as white collar work. Not using AI is retarded for the same reason not putting your songs online is retarded. No one remembers metallica for its music as much as people remember them for being so anti-napster.

Beyond that when you look at hollywood and how shit CGI has gotten its obvious that AI is going to be accepted and heavily used. Especially in the CGI parts of filmmaking, there's going to be some controversy but overall people won't give a fuck. Disney and Amazon and multiple other major companies have already been caught using AI and it doesn't matter. with how bad the pay is for CGI companies i wouldn't be surprised if they were heavily using AI and just keeping it a secret because it helps with the workload.

I can easily see it knock out writing too, AI nails being able to shit out a 2000 word article in under a minute and for less than a nickle. you don't really need employees to shit out articles based on the latest newswire bullshit when you can just have AI do the same thing, same thing with short form comedy and videos. no doubt in my mind that AI is being used to make some of the crap shows you see on Tiktok. I can easily see AI being able to handle writing scripts really well too even in its current state.

what people forget is that editors exist and are mainly responsible for editing out the retardation before it gets seen by the public, AI can knock out entry level jobs now. its hilarious.

 

[nothingeverhappens]

its because AI is seen as the great equalizer, you might not be able to get 10k together to make a short film, but you can type into AI whatever bullshit you want.

think about how angry people were about computers making music and threatening the music industry. we're in that phase currently.

Nah, not even close. At least with a computer it's still one guy with good ears arranging sounds to make a song, with AIslop it's peak "why bothering learning anything when I can ask the AI to make me some shit?" lazyness.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

i agree with that, like Null going all in on Claude is retarded but as the tech progresses the things people will be able to "homebrew" will increase too, like the photo and video models. I wouldn't invest in AI but i would be fine using AI tech and its obvious that its good enough at most of its current use cases like graphic artistry or other trades where its clear the market has been overpriced, such as white collar work.

I think there already exists open-source AI models where nerds will buy up some cheap or mid-tier PCs (like some retired Dell Optiplex PCs or if they have the money then they could buy some Framework Deskstop PCs), put them in a cluster, and train an open-source AI model though their home mini-datacenter and have an AI not dependent on any Big Tech infrastructure (such as those big datacenters that use a lot of water from the local environment for cooling).

I think the open-source and homebrew communities will eventually come up with efficient solutions to have AI at the home without the high cost or being dependent on Big Tech for this service.

Everyone is just throwing money at AI without fully understanding the current limits and hurdles this technology faces. So like the Wall Street investors of the 1990's that kept putting money in any company that launched a website, I feel like investors like Jersh will be caught with their pants down and lose everything when this AI Bubble finally bursts. AI won't go away but the phonies will be exposed sooner or later.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

I'm reminded of how the music industry felt about the Internet way back in the day.

Before the rise of the Internet, the music industry were greedy fucks that kept nickle and dimeing consumers with anti-consumer high prices and turning a blind eye to music artists that had talent but the music industry at the time wanted to push trends that they thought would make them money.

Then the Internet came alone with torreting services that gave people better access to music (only real OGs of the Internet will remember using Napster and LimeWire to pirate music back in the day) and platforms like Youtube and MySpace gave music artists the voices they weren't getting from the big record labels. The Internet changed the way on how people saw consuming music forever.

Both Napster and LimeWire would be forced to shut down as the big record labels successfully had their lawyers shut down these torrenting services over copyright infringement but the damage was done and the old ways of music distribution by this point was becoming obsolete; consumers now wanted an easy way to consume music on the Internet so this lead to the rise of services like Apple's iTunes (Apple would replace this with Apple Music later on), Amazon Music, Spotify, and even the big record labels eventually conceding by offering their music for free (paid with ads) on Youtube. Some artists would get their work noticed on the Internet and then go big (TVFilthyFrank aka Joji started out as an edgy Internet comedian but would become a successful musician beyond the Internet).

I think this is what the AI bros think is going to happen but not realizing that there are a lot of wrong horses being backed in this AI bubble. AI is not going away but when the bubble finally bursts then a lot of people are going to be caught with their pants down while more practical AI models stick around longer. If there is one thing that should be learned from the Dot Com Bubble of the 1990's is don't get caught up by blind hype.

For real, the Dot Com bubble is the perfect lens for this. You're spot on about the Napster era—the old guard always freaks out and sues everyone, but ultimately they have to adapt because consumer behavior has already changed.

Right now, we're basically in the late 90s all over again. Anyone can slap "AI" on a pitch deck and get millions in VC money, exactly like adding ".com" to a company name back then. A lot of these startups are burning insane amounts of cash on computing power with zero actual plan to turn a profit.

When the hype dies down and the free money dries up, the grifters and useless apps will vanish overnight, just like Pets.com did. AI isn't going anywhere, but once the dust settles, the only things left standing will be the boring, practical tools that actually solve real problems. A lot of these AI bros are definitely going to get caught with their pants down.

 

[cosmic veteran]

Nah, not even close. At least with a computer it's still one guy with good ears arranging sounds to make a song, with AIslop it's peak "why bothering learning anything when I can ask the AI to make me some shit?" lazyness.

I disagree. what you're talking about is AI chat bots from big companies like google, microsoft, etc. local/open source AI models actually requires you to set it up and that will take a ton of time and beefy hardware to pull it off

 

[Obscenity2022]

Nah, not even close. At least with a computer it's still one guy with good ears arranging sounds to make a song, with AIslop it's peak "why bothering learning anything when I can ask the AI to make me some shit?" lazyness.

nah, people said the same thing about replacing cel shading with computer bullshit. a good artist can still make good shit with ai tools, emily youcis proves it, just because 99% of people using garage band make shit, that doesn't mean guys like benny blanco don't exist