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This is going to sound controversial but I don't think Kiwi Farms is wrong about them dunking on a voice actor for wanting better pay because much of America's entertainment industry is made up of lefty activists that don't understand economics. Unless they're Mel Blanc, historically voice acting has been seen as a thing being done by D-list tier celebrities that don't understand how economics really works.

The generic troon arguments aside, I don't think Kiwi Farms is wrong on this and they're just arguing about this poorly. So when people think they want to be successful then they think hard work is the key to this when that is not necessarily the case, the real key to success is to do valuable work and take advantage of opportunities. Part of the reason why people point to STEM fields (like in tech) is because that may lead to jobs that are more likely to lead to success so even if you get a low effort entry level job in that you're still likely to be valued. Not only that, you have to be able to capitalize on the skills that you are good at. Even in the arts like the entertainment industry, there are still plenty of great opportunities to be successful. Being a video editor is not a STEM field but if you're a good video editor then that can take you a lot of places but if you give up on an opportunity to be a video editor for someone like The Game Theorists or Markiplier or James Rolf then you're just letting success pass you by.

Don't get me wrong, hard work is needed to be successful and it's something that you should expect to do (you have to put effort in something). But no one is going to pay someone a six figure salary to pour a glass of water because that is something anyone can do and if they don't then they can easily learn. I don't care if someone has been doing something for years if the work in question they're doing isn't valuable. Remember, a pile of gold is going be much more valuable than a pile of worn-out clothes.

I don't think Kiwi Farms is wrong in this regard, they're just arguing about it poorly which can lead to a classic Fallacy Fallacy.
Honestly dude. I think KiwiFarms only hate that voice actress because she was *trans-ish?* and not because she has a bad take on not getting much paid. A lot of voice actors get fucked unless you are the rare 1% successful voice actors that get money even if pay is shit. (And I'm not talking about just Hollywood actors you know who I'm talking about) They could have disproved her logically by showing some other voice actors that do their job better in voice acting, and not just look into her profile, and calling her mentally ill. (Like there haven't been transgender shooters in recent years.... Oh wait!) It's just another L in KiwiFarms claiming stuff like they are smart when they are just as dumb as hardcore leftists.
 
Honestly dude. I think KiwiFarms only hate that voice actress because she was *trans-ish?* and not because she has a bad take on not getting much paid. A lot of voice actors get fucked unless you are the rare 1% successful voice actors that get money even if pay is shit. (And I'm not talking about just Hollywood actors you know who I'm talking about) They could have disproved her logically by showing some other voice actors that do their job better in voice acting, and not just look into her profile, and calling her mentally ill. (Like there haven't been transgender shooters in recent years.... Oh wait!) It's just another L in KiwiFarms claiming stuff like they are smart when they are just as dumb as hardcore leftists.
I can't tell if that's a woman or man biologically (probably because it's an Asian), nor do I care. So the closeted kiwi trannies are most likely really upset that they are not as passable as the random Twitter user they chose to engage with. Probably looking for anything to be upset about.
 
I assume you're complaining about the Half Life thread calling StoneToss a retard for saying Half Life 2 having black characters was woke. I thought his reputation somewhat fizzled out when he was doxed as a chubby, mixed race IT worker who cried over his circumcised penis.
People found a guy on Twitter who's spent the last few years talking about how he knew about StoneToss being a chubby non-white incel and posted a facedox that looks similar to other pictures.
 
I lurked the Amber thread and people are fighting over they/them pronouns, this post got a gorjillion likes and agrees, it truly has become reddit farms, downdoots for any tranny who refuses to acknowledge Beckys Theyliness!
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I lurked the Amber thread and people are fighting over they/them pronouns, this post got a gorjillion likes and agrees, it truly has become reddit farms, downdoots for any tranny who refuses to acknowledge Beckys Theyliness!
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>Website known for making fun of trannies and special snowflakes
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Good, keep driving that wedge between the website, I'm sure it won't have any negative effects.
 
Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!
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Kiwi Farms has become completely unrecognizable compared to what it was even one or two years ago. This isn't even about the law itself or KF's reaction to it, since Null and Kiwi Farms have been seething about loli and shota for years. Rather, it's about the sheer lack of funny on the Farms nowadays.

Now, Kiwi Farms has gone through spurts of this in the past when the major lolcows were all inactive or boring at the same time. However, this is not the case right now. Bossmanjack is out of jail and is back streaming. Nick Rekeita got his charges dropped and is back on social media. Ethan Ralph is still doing his thing. Patrick Tomlinson is still doing his thing. DSP is still doing his thing. The entire left wing community is melting down over Trump's presidency to the extent that they're openly making death threats en masse.

In spite of all the funny things happening, what is Kiwi Farms focused on right now? Seething about lolicons and shotacons. Seething about Andrew Tate. Seething about Elon Musk. Seething about foreign politics. Seething about blacks and Muslims. Seething about moids in Beauty Parlor.

Kiwi Farms can no longer be considered a gossip site or even a comedy site. It has fully morphed into the right wing/TERF version of ResetEra, a bunch of joyless unfunny moralfags who go on constant crusades against people and communities they don't like. Sure, there were elements of these moral crusades in the past, but Null and other Kiwi Farmers always used to ask "Where is the funny?". Nobody's asking that anymore because nobody goes on Kiwi Farms to find funny content nowadays. They go there to form a moral crusade against whatever Null is mad about at that particular time and farm upvotes by circlejerking in favor of said moral crusade.
 
Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!
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My concerns with laws like SB 20 including "cartoons and animation" is what is the criteria for determining a character's age? There is no exact set standard and could end badly for all anime fans if it gets interpreted in the broadest possible way.

Anyone with Marin Kitagawa hentai on their PC in Texas might want to go full Hillary Clinton and BleachBit their hard drives if this passes the Texas House.

Though banning AI generated realistic CP is a 100% win. That shit has been completely banned at the federal level since 2003. This is the one time Congress actually had good foresight and states are playing catch-up.
 
My concerns with laws like SB 20 including "cartoons and animation" is what is the criteria for determining a character's age? There is no exact set standard and could end badly for all anime fans if it gets interpreted in the broadest possible way.

Anyone with Marin Kitagawa hentai on their PC in Texas might want to go full Hillary Clinton and BleachBit their hard drives if this passes the Texas House.

Though banning AI generated realistic CP is a 100% win. That shit has been completely banned at the federal level since 2003. This is the one time Congress actually had good foresight and states are playing catch-up.
If it's like the laws in Australia (IIRC) where even a petite grown-ass adult can be considered illegal (they don't give a shit if the pornstar is verified 40, if she's tiny and not very busty, she's CP, quit looking at her you pedophile!), then it's fucked. Hell, even an ultra moralfag like welperhelper99 could get in trouble for his avatars if he moves to Texas, since a quick google search says this about his waifu:
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So what do they look at to jail someone? The age or the physical/mental age of the character? Where does the "100000000018 year old loli" meme fall?
 
Actual voice actor wants better pay and some actual races that are not just Japanese white washing. Makes it about mental illnesses somehow. 😒

Also, why target a small voice actress? It's not like she is wrong. Voice actors get paid like shit in America
Maybe it's just me, but I'd be more inclined to care about English voice actors if 90% of them weren't insufferable cunts that monopolized most roles through nepotism (just look at how many anime dubs and game dubs recycle the same five 40-50 year old Funimation actors) and if they actually put effort into sounding the role. Mihoyo games are some of the worst when it comes to English dubbing imho. Hearing fake british accents with recent Genshin characters is genuinely ear grating.

Maybe you could extrapolate what they're saying to their political views, but solely on someone's gender is a bit of a stretch.
 
My concerns with laws like SB 20 including "cartoons and animation" is what is the criteria for determining a character's age? There is no exact set standard and could end badly for all anime fans if it gets interpreted in the broadest possible way.

Anyone with Marin Kitagawa hentai on their PC in Texas might want to go full Hillary Clinton and BleachBit their hard drives if this passes the Texas House.

Though banning AI generated realistic CP is a 100% win. That shit has been completely banned at the federal level since 2003. This is the one time Congress actually had good foresight and states are playing catch-up.
Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!
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Kiwi Farms has become completely unrecognizable compared to what it was even one or two years ago. This isn't even about the law itself or KF's reaction to it, since Null and Kiwi Farms have been seething about loli and shota for years. Rather, it's about the sheer lack of funny on the Farms nowadays.

Now, Kiwi Farms has gone through spurts of this in the past when the major lolcows were all inactive or boring at the same time. However, this is not the case right now. Bossmanjack is out of jail and is back streaming. Nick Rekeita got his charges dropped and is back on social media. Ethan Ralph is still doing his thing. Patrick Tomlinson is still doing his thing. DSP is still doing his thing. The entire left wing community is melting down over Trump's presidency to the extent that they're openly making death threats en masse.

In spite of all the funny things happening, what is Kiwi Farms focused on right now? Seething about lolicons and shotacons. Seething about Andrew Tate. Seething about Elon Musk. Seething about foreign politics. Seething about blacks and Muslims. Seething about moids in Beauty Parlor.

Kiwi Farms can no longer be considered a gossip site or even a comedy site. It has fully morphed into the right wing/TERF version of ResetEra, a bunch of joyless unfunny moralfags who go on constant crusades against people and communities they don't like. Sure, there were elements of these moral crusades in the past, but Null and other Kiwi Farmers always used to ask "Where is the funny?". Nobody's asking that anymore because nobody goes on Kiwi Farms to find funny content nowadays. They go there to form a moral crusade against whatever Null is mad about at that particular time and farm upvotes by circlejerking in favor of said moral crusade.
Laws that are too broad like these do end up getting challenged in the federal court system though.

To be honest, this wouldn't be the first time Texas passed laws that got struck down later on because they're too stupid to realize how the Bill of Rights actually works (like when Texas tried to restrict public drag queen shows and then a federal judge struck parts of that down not too long after or when the Texas state legislature recently tried to ban speech criticizing the leadership for the Texas state legislature and that recently got struck down in the courts as well).

So this to me seems like another Supreme Court case in the making. Remember, the Free Speech Coalition v. Ashcroft (2002) ruling is still standing Supreme Court precedent (it's the ruling that stated that fictional depictions of child sexual abuse are protected speech). So I can imagine that civil rights groups like the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, the Free Speech Coalition, and possibly the ACLU and NetChoice may file lawsuit against the state of Texas to challenge this law.

I'm aware of the Protect Act of 2003 which (objectively speaking) parts of that also has dogshit legislation where that's also way too broad in regards of what is seen as obscenity. But that law was written back when the Religious Right had more power and how social attitudes were like back then and anime and manga were still seen as niche forms of entertainment (stuff like Dragon Ball and Pokemon were popular back in the day but they were an exception since Western media still dominated American entertainment distributors back then). Japanese entertainment is no longer this niche form of entertainment anymore as it has gone mainstream, the cat is out of the bag and Japanese media is now a world wide sensation that may also end up challenging laws in other countries as far as free speech goes.

It's like how way back in the day Germany banned the video game Doom for being "too realistic" (this was during the anti-video game moral panic of the 1990's) only for the game to get unbanned by the early-2010's when the game was compared to games like GTA 4 at the time and argued that it's silly to ban a game with outdated MS-DOS graphics when a modern game like GTA 4 can continue being legally sold in Germany (so the German government unbanned Doom because that embarrassed Germany at the time).

Honestly, this may actually be the worst thing to happen to Kiwi Farms and may not be the victory they are hoping for.

If you remember the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization ruling (2022), that ruling overturned Roe v. Wade and it was in regards to a right to an abortion. Roe v. Wade was always dogshit legislation because nowhere in the Constitution does it grant a person a right to privacy as far as medical manners go. So the conservatives got smart for once and realized that to overturn Roe v. Wade then they have to put aside their Bibles for once and to fight against it in a secular and objective manner by arguing that Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional because nowhere in the Constitution granted privacy for medical manners rather than calling it immoral like they used to do (Bible thumping did not help the Right to overturn Roe v. Wade in their previous attempts). What do I think about the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade? I think the Supreme Court ruled correctly in overturning Roe v. Wade because Roe v. Wade was always dogshit legislation (even the late liberal SCOTUS justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg acknowledged how Roe v. Wade was dogshit due to its unstable legal foundation to stay as a SCOTUS precedent any longer). The issue of abortion should have been an issue for Congress to tackle, not the Supreme Court at the time in how they ruled back in 1973.

Do you see where I'm getting at here? While obscenity (as established by both the Miller test and the Dost test) are not protected speech, what may come out of this is seeing the Supreme Court possibly nuking outdated obscenity laws and possibly adopt new strict scrutiny standards for both the Miller test and the Dost test in order to prevent further abuse by the legal system. So stuff like lolicon and shotacon may no longer be in a legal gray area anymore and they may become fully protected speech from that point on should this issue return back to the Supreme Court after roughly 20 years later.

The Protect Act of 2003 may finally get its day in the Supreme Court and possibly have some parts of it struck down for the same reasons Roe v. Wade was overturned back in 2022 (because the one thing the Protect Act of 2003 and Roe v. Wade have in common is that they are both still dogshit legislation).
 
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