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Boobie Bomb said:
I have no fucking idea. They talking out of their asses
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We don't ban anybody for spamming with algorithm issues, this comes back to a point where I said these fucking morons don't pay attention at all, hell they probably are lying but still, they have no goddamn idea of what they're talking about.
 
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I wonder whose video was taken down?
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Of course…
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Oh, the hypocrisy was thrown right out the window.
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Pot calling the kettle black, my dood.

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Lizard man fights back.
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He won’t stop. He is pissing them off.

SwimStaffRubber said:
We don't ban anybody for spamming with algorithm issues, this comes back to a point where I said these fucking morons don't pay attention at all, hell they probably are lying but still, they have no goddamn idea of what they're talking about.
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We found Nazi Mario.
 
thefrogninja said:
Kiwifarms users appear to stand against doxing of public, government employees now. (It's just people real names and government email addresses btw.)
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The next post, another user posted the dox uncensored, throwing the government under the bus. Man, I can't wait for these people to get arrested for illegal doxxing of government people. Who will win in the fight? Random Twitter users or big bad government?
 
Boobie Bomb said:
The next post, another user posted the dox uncensored, throwing the government under the bus. Man, I can't wait for these people to get arrested for illegal doxxing of government people. Who will win in the fight? Random Twitter users or big bad government?
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Can’t the government trace that shit in a second?
 
thefrogninja said:
Kiwifarms users appear to stand against doxing of public, government employees now. (It's just people real names and government email addresses btw.)
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Kiwi Farms is not against the doxing of public government officials, Kiwi Farms is against the potential legislation that can come from this.

Currently doxing isn't seen as a federal offense (there's no federal laws that addresses doxing in of itself) but some states both blue and red leaning (like California and Missouri) have already made doxing a crime (it's either seen as a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the state). This may finally motivate the federal government to try to pass legislation that addresses the act of doxing.

But some midwit would say, "But isn't doxing free speech?" While publicly available information is protected by the First Amendment, there's still some things that are not seen as protected speech such as stalking, trespassing, vandalism, death threats, swatting and other things that can be seen as malicious behavior or intent (criminal harassment as far to my knowledge has never been seen as protected speech in American legal history).

Most importantly, the federal government can make the argument against doxing with malicious intent of any kind by pulling out the classic 'National Security' card just like what they did with the Tiktok ban law (where the Supreme Court sided with the federal government in the Tiktok ban case and I imagine the Supreme Court won't object to legislation that targets some forms of malicious behavior online that can be seen as a national security risk).

What Kiwi Farms (and other online communities just like them) really fears is that they may be labeled as enemies of the state soon should such legislation becomes reality. It doesn't help that Elon Musk (the head of DOGE) has put it on record that he doesn't consider doxing as free speech ever since he bought out Twitter; so doxing is probably next on the chopping block for the American government sooner or later. If such a thing were to happen where an anti-doxing bill were to become law, then websites like Kiwi Farms may be forced to either take down said content related to real life individuals (in this case the lolcows being featured) or the websites in question have to shut down due to the legal liabilities.
 
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TheCIAGlowsInTheDark said:
Kiwi Farms is not against the doxing of public government officials, Kiwi Farms is against the potential legislation that can come from this.

Currently doxing isn't seen as a federal offense (there's no federal laws that addresses doxing in of itself) but some states both blue and red leaning (like California and Missouri) have already made doxing a crime (it's either seen as a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the state). This may finally motivate the federal government to try to pass legislation that addresses the act of doxing.

But some midwit would say, "But isn't doxing free speech?" While publicly available information is protected by the First Amendment, there's still some things that are not seen as protected speech such as stalking, trespassing, vandalism, death threats, swatting and other things that can be seen as malicious behavior or intent (criminal harassment as far to my knowledge has never been seen as protected speech in American legal history).

Most importantly, the federal government can make the argument against doxing with malicious intent of any kind by pulling out the classic 'National Security' card just like what they did with the Tiktok ban law (where the Supreme Court sided with the federal government in the Tiktok ban case and I imagine the Supreme Court won't object to legislation that targets some forms of malicious behavior online that can be seen as a national security risk).

What Kiwi Farms (and other online communities just like them) really fears is that they may be labeled as enemies of the state soon should such legislation becomes reality. It doesn't help that Elon Musk (the head of DOGE) has put it on record that he doesn't consider doxing as free speech ever since he bought out Twitter; so doxing is probably next on the chopping block for the American government sooner or later. If such a thing were to happen where an anti-doxing bill were to become law, then websites like Kiwi Farms may be forced to either take down said content related to real life individuals (in this case the lolcows being featured) or the websites in question have to shut down due to the legal liabilities.
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Given Null makes enemies with the Government he would most likely get fucked. The world knows who he is. Only a matter of time before he tries to pull a Bin Laden. Also, his attacks on Lolicons will also get him into trouble as they are targeting people from that community as well. Null is toast!
 
TheCIAGlowsInTheDark said:
Kiwi Farms is not against the doxing of public government officials, Kiwi Farms is against the potential legislation that can come from this.

Currently doxing isn't seen as a federal offense (there's no federal laws that addresses doxing in of itself) but some states both blue and red leaning (like California and Missouri) have already made doxing a crime (it's either seen as a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the state). This may finally motivate the federal government to try to pass legislation that addresses the act of doxing.

But some midwit would say, "But isn't doxing free speech?" While publicly available information is protected by the First Amendment, there's still some things that are not seen as protected speech such as stalking, trespassing, vandalism, death threats, swatting and other things that can be seen as malicious behavior or intent (criminal harassment as far to my knowledge has never been seen as protected speech in American legal history).

Most importantly, the federal government can make the argument against doxing with malicious intent of any kind by pulling out the classic 'National Security' card just like what they did with the Tiktok ban law (where the Supreme Court sided with the federal government in the Tiktok ban case and I imagine the Supreme Court won't object to legislation that targets some forms of malicious behavior online that can be seen as a national security risk).

What Kiwi Farms (and other online communities just like them) really fears is that they may be labeled as enemies of the state soon should such legislation becomes reality. It doesn't help that Elon Musk (the head of DOGE) has put it on record that he doesn't consider doxing as free speech ever since he bought out Twitter; so doxing is probably next on the chopping block for the American government sooner or later. If such a thing were to happen where an anti-doxing bill were to become law, then websites like Kiwi Farms may be forced to either take down said content related to real life individuals (in this case the lolcows being featured) or the websites in question have to shut down due to the legal liabilities.
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Strict laws against doxxing wouldn't just affect Kiwi Farms. I imagine Soyjak and Doxbin would also be affected.
 
SwimStaffRubber said:
Can’t the government trace that shit in a second?
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Boobie Bomb said:
They can. You shouldn't mess with them. Let alone allow their emails to be used for gay porn spam. It starts with jokes but shit gets serious if you harm someone. They better be lucky to have strong VPNs because they're coming for them.
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i wonder how many clowns from bluesky will be arrested after messing around with government emails. probably a lot
 
Boobie Bomb said:
They can. You shouldn't mess with them. Let alone allow their emails to be used for gay porn spam. It starts with jokes but shit gets serious if you harm someone. They better be lucky to have strong VPNs because they're coming for them.
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VPNs won't protect someone if the feds are coming after them.

So unless someone is running a machine with TailsOS installed on a USB drive and connect to the Internet using the Tor browser while being connected to the Internet using Starbucks or McDonald's Wifi with a long-range Wifi receiver antenna and doing this inside an Amish person's house; it doesn't take much for the feds to find someone should they not practice impeccable OPSEC.

Rarely do the feds have to actually engage in some CSI Miami shit and it's pretty easy for the feds to figure out who did it. Usually the feds request a VPN service to hand over any banking information to identify a suspect and then they put the dots together to see what is really going on. Most VPN services do keep logs of user activity and they usually require a customer to hand over their real world banking details to pay for their VPN services, there's only a handful of VPN services based in countries that are not part of the Five Eyes of Surveillance and allows people to pay in crypto for more anonymous billing (such as Bitcoin and Monero).

This doesn't mean VPNs are useless (they do have their uses), this means that if someone is going to become a whistleblower then it's really dumb to use a VPN when dealing with the glowies because this is a game that they're far less likely to win as governments like the United States have billions in taxpayer money at their disposal to find someone.

So I doubt anyone using the personal information of the DOGE employees for malicious purposes have good OPSEC and I'm sure we'll see the Trump administration and the federal government come up with some proposed legislation on how to address online privacy and how to address doxing for that matter. Obviously the American glowies are going to see the doxing of DOGE employees as a serious national security risk so expect something to happen soon where the government may start labeling doxing as a threat to national security or something.
 
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TheCIAGlowsInTheDark said:
VPNs won't protect someone if the feds are coming after them.

So unless someone is running a machine with TailsOS installed on a USB drive and connect to the Internet using the Tor browser while being connected to the Internet using Starbucks or McDonald's Wifi with a long-range Wifi receiver antenna and doing this inside an Amish person's house; it doesn't take much for the feds to find someone should they not practice impeccable OPSEC.

Rarely do the feds have to actually engage in some CSI Miami shit and it's pretty easy for the feds to figure out who did it. Usually the feds request a VPN service to hand over any banking information to identify a suspect and then they put the dots together to see what is really going on. Most VPN services do keep logs of user activity and they usually require a customer to hand over their real world banking details to pay for their VPN services, there's only a handful of VPN services based in countries that are not part of the Five Eyes of Surveillance and allows people to pay in crypto for more anonymous billing (such as Bitcoin and Monero).

This doesn't mean VPNs are useless (they do have their uses), this means that if someone is going to become a whistleblower then it's really dumb to use a VPN when dealing with the glowies because this is a game that they're far less likely to win as governments like the United States have billions in taxpayer money at their disposal to find someone.

So I doubt anyone using the personal information of the DOGE employees for malicious purposes have good OPSEC and I'm sure we'll see the Trump administration and the federal government come up with some proposed legislation on how to address online privacy and how to address doxing for that matter. Obviously the American glowies are going to see the doxing of DOGE employees as a serious national security risk so expect something to happen soon where the government may start labeling doxing as a threat to national security or something.
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indeed my dude
 
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