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Can you imagine pulling something similar irl?
I watched a recent documentary called "The Evil Influencer" on Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt and Jodi did this. She was a therapist, then life coach and said if a man looks at porn even once a year he has an addiction. She is most famous for torturing and starving children, almost to death.
 
the site in general the last 6 months has seemed to die. i admit it might just be personal with me, but my usage has dropped like a stone. there is just way less interesting content to entertain me.
The two things Kiwi Farms had going for it were lolcows (which have mostly faded away outside of a handful of them) and right wing politics (which have collapsed into infighting and doom-pilling to a point that many of them no longer have the morale to keep going). Without those, there's very few reasons for people to join the forum. Null himself has abandoned the site to wage war on Vivek Ramaswamy and only posts to try and rally what's left of KF to help him LARP as a political kingmaker.
 
I watched a recent documentary called "The Evil Influencer" on Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt and Jodi did this. She was a therapist, then life coach and said if a man looks at porn even once a year he has an addiction. She is most famous for torturing and starving children, almost to death.
It's why I don't take the opinions of moralfags that seriously.

Their opinions are worthless when you realize they have some serious skeletons on their closet.

It's like PETA, they're not wrong about animal abuse being horrid but PETA's opinion on animal abuse is worthless when you realize what PETA really does to animals anyway.
 
I watched a recent documentary called "The Evil Influencer" on Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt and Jodi did this. She was a therapist, then life coach and said if a man looks at porn even once a year he has an addiction. She is most famous for torturing and starving children, almost to death.
It’s almost offensive to people with real addictions. Can you imagine having someone come into an addicts meeting and waste their time with trivial bs like that?

“Ya, I’m John. Been addicted to alcohol for 30 years, it’s ruining my life. I lost my wife, my kids, sometimes I even just sit and think it’d be so much easier if it was all over”
“That was very brave, John. I’m Mark, been addicted to crack cocaine for about 5 years. I told myself I wouldn’t get addicted, but that’s what everyone tells themselves. It’s completely taken over my life…”
“Wow, very brave you two. Hi, I’m Donny. I kinda find Morrigan hot.”
“…”
“And?”
“What? That’s it”
“I just don’t see how that relates to the topic”
“I’M LITERALLY HOPELESSLY ADDICTED AND YOU’RE LAUGHING AT ME!?”
“No one’s laughing, that just dosent really sound comparable”
“THIS IS EPI!!! I’M LITERALLY 19!!!”
 
It’s almost offensive to people with real addictions. Can you imagine having someone come into an addicts meeting and waste their time with trivial bs like that?

“Ya, I’m John. Been addicted to alcohol for 30 years, it’s ruining my life. I lost my wife, my kids, sometimes I even just sit and think it’d be so much easier if it was all over”
“That was very brave, John. I’m Mark, been addicted to crack cocaine for about 5 years. I told myself I wouldn’t get addicted, but that’s what everyone tells themselves. It’s completely taken over my life…”
“Wow, very brave you two. Hi, I’m Donny. I kinda find Morrigan hot.”
“…”
“And?”
“What? That’s it”
“I just don’t see how that relates to the topic”
“I’M LITERALLY HOPELESSLY ADDICTED AND YOU’RE LAUGHING AT ME!?”
“No one’s laughing, that just dosent really sound comparable”
“THIS IS EPI!!! I’M LITERALLY 19!!!”

Moralfags will call you an addict for the smallest amount of porn consumption.

I'm honestly starting to think there is a broader agenda behind it. After all, they're trying to turn the web into a KYC'd surveillance state to "protect the kids." This is one part of that agenda, and because it's about porn, they'll get very little pushback until they start expanding it to social media and app stores. Oh wait-
 
It's like Something Awful before Lowtax crashed out. Something Awful was one of the places to be on the Internet until Lowtax started to go full skitzo and scared away the normal users while keeping the left-wing troons.
What are you talking about? Lowtax barely did anything expect wine and pills and just let other people do whatever.
 
It’s almost offensive to people with real addictions. Can you imagine having someone come into an addicts meeting and waste their time with trivial bs like that?
Pornography is an actual addiction that can cause real harm. It is a drug that alters your brain chemistry when you consume it, and it is clearly one that some people spend hours on. And it can easily destroy relationships through creating unrealistic expectations and encouraging infidelity. Just because Kiwi Farms believes everyone who admits to liking sexy women is a porn addict does not mean porn addiction is not a real thing, any more than a Baptist preacher saying anyone who drinks beer with their dinner makes you an alcoholic means alcoholism is not real. Porn is like any drug and you need to use it responsibly.

I believe Kiwi Farms is obsessed with porn addiction because of the very real tendency for trannies on the internet to be porn addicts. A lot of trannies use porn star-sounding names for instance and often claim to be having "real female orgasms" and other obsessions that clearly derive from watching too much porn. Ftm trannies too boast about their yaoi consumption, have names that sound like teens from borderline pornographic YA novels, and obsess over gay sex. Kiwi Farms also always needs the moral high ground and calling someone a porn addict (which according to them is one step from being a troon or a pedophile) is a way to win arguments.
 
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While his actions our fueling our site. Get rekt, Null.
Moralfags will call you an addict for the smallest amount of porn consumption.
Yep. Even on 4Chan and YouTube, to this day.
 
Just because Kiwi Farms believes everyone who admits to liking sexy women is a porn addict does not mean porn addiction is not a real thing
When did I ever say porn addiction isn’t a real thing. You’re making up stuff to get upset about.
 
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I believe Kiwi Farms is obsessed with porn addiction because of the very real tendency for trannies on the internet to be porn addicts.

Kiwi Farms also always needs the moral high ground and calling someone a porn addict (which according to them is one step from being a troon or a pedophile) is a way to win arguments.
Both of these are true, and I've always thought there's a third reason as well: A lot of Kiwis are themselves heavily into porn, possibly even a lot of the really evil stuff they get onto other people for (like lolicon). I've said before, a lot of them seem to know way too much about that stuff.

Also its amazing that these people spent years going after the SJWs for hating beauty and wanting to uglify women and shame men for finding women attractive, then they turn around and want the same damn thing.
 
Pornography is an actual addiction that can cause real harm. It is a drug that alters your brain chemistry when you consume it, and it is clearly one that some people spend hours on. And it can easily destroy relationships through creating unrealistic expectations and encouraging infidelity. Just because Kiwi Farms believes everyone who admits to liking sexy women is a porn addict does not mean porn addiction is not a real thing, any more than a Baptist preacher saying anyone who drinks beer with their dinner makes you an alcoholic means alcoholism is not real. Porn is like any drug and you need to use it responsibly.

I believe Kiwi Farms is obsessed with porn addiction because of the very real tendency for trannies on the internet to be porn addicts. A lot of trannies use porn star-sounding names for instance and often claim to be having "real female orgasms" and other obsessions that clearly derive from watching too much porn. Ftm trannies too boast about their yaoi consumption, have names that sound like teens from borderline pornographic YA novels, and obsess over gay sex. Kiwi Farms also always needs the moral high ground and calling someone a porn addict (which according to them is one step from being a troon or a pedophile) is a way to win arguments.

To be fair, when someone uses words like "encourages" or "unrealistic expectations" it just sounds like old GamerGate era BuzzFeed articles and Tropes vs. Women shit.

You aren't gonna be able to use media effects arguments to convince people who've lived through both Jack Thompson and GamerGate.

As for the drug thing, I really don't like that framing, as it could be used to justify giving the DEA power over the Internet. Imagina a digital War on Drugs. Not saying addiction doesn't exist, as anything that leads to a dopamine hit can be addictive, I just don't think calling it a drug on par with hard chemicals is helpful at all and just serves to give the government more power.
 
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To be fair, when someone uses words like "encourages" or "unrealistic expectations" it just sounds like old GamerGate era BuzzFeed articles and Tropes vs. Women shit.

You aren't gonna be able to use media effects arguments to convince people who've lived through both Jack Thompson and GamerGate.

As for the drug thing, I really don't like that framing, as it could be used to justify giving the DEA power over the Internet. Imagina a digital War on Drugs. Not saying addiction doesn't exist, as anything that leads to a dopamine hit can be addictive, I just don't think calling it a drug on par with hard chemicals is helpful at all and just serves to give the government more power.
IMHO, the whole question of porn addiction and all that jazz over the internet can very simply be summed up with the fact that a few years ago we were all making fun of Tumblrites self diagnosing themselves with DID and PTSD, making fun of Tumblr blogs that claimed they could diagnose you with GAD just from ask blogs

Yet now, we’re doing the same thing with porn addiction, where we think we can diagnose someone as addicted based off of nothing but what they do on the internet, a place where people can lie, exaggerate, leave out context and information, etc.

I’m not saying porn addiction isn’t real, but it’s the jazzy new thing to armchair diagnose people with, just like when people were armchair diagnosing everyone with depression.

I genuinely see the two as no different.
 
I don't really like Josh, but you have to admit his situation is really sad. He's sacrificed his reputation, his families reputation, money, and a normal life for essentially very little reward.
I would feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a smug, fat, dislikeable, cowardly, two-faced cunt.
If he didn't do what he is doing, someone else will.

he sold his website out to the glowies, trannies and reddit fags so he deserves it.
Every thread is lefty talking points, government cock sucking and agreeing with Current-Thing.
 
No need to feel sorry. He's been compensated monetarily for his troubles, was able to bum it around Europe for 10 years, and complains he makes so much money he has to pay taxes. (Which he could sell his trove of silver coins, guns, and munitions to pay down, but that's another story.)
 
Yet now, we’re doing the same thing with porn addiction, where we think we can diagnose someone as addicted based off of nothing but what they do on the internet, a place where people can lie, exaggerate, leave out context and information, etc.
another thing leading to the rise of "porn addiction" accusations is that both simpping and thottery are a lot more normalized, a decade ago it was a lot rarer to have women showing clevage or ass online outside of porn. but kiwifarms being more of a femcel site has lead them to accuse any man of having a porn addiction because to women even looking at a photo of a woman with cleveage or ass is porn. And therefore porn is everywhere now and it has to be because of the men.

Its ironic too considering women porn, aka books are everywhere now. they proudly are addicted to romance novels and literally woman porn is on fucking HBO Max, with that gay hockey show. At least people are willing to call it out now. You need to upload your drivers license to watch porn on a porn site, but can watch gay sex scenes on hbo with no check needed. And every erotica site doesn't need a drivers license either, and studies show its mainly women addicted to AI chatbots. Its insane how much we pander to these cunts
 
another thing leading to the rise of "porn addiction" accusations is that both simpping and thottery are a lot more normalized, a decade ago it was a lot rarer to have women showing clevage or ass online outside of porn. but kiwifarms being more of a femcel site has lead them to accuse any man of having a porn addiction because to women even looking at a photo of a woman with cleveage or ass is porn. And therefore porn is everywhere now and it has to be because of the men.

Its ironic too considering women porn, aka books are everywhere now. they proudly are addicted to romance novels and literally woman porn is on fucking HBO Max, with that gay hockey show. At least people are willing to call it out now. You need to upload your drivers license to watch porn on a porn site, but can watch gay sex scenes on hbo with no check needed. And every erotica site doesn't need a drivers license either, and studies show its mainly women addicted to AI chatbots. Its insane how much we pander to these cunts

Probably because much of the current advocacy against porn is driven by feminist works form Dworkin and MacKinnon. It's mostly feminism that is driving it, though religion does factor in.

Because of this, only things aimed at men seem to be attacked, because women are seen as pretty little angels who can do no wrong.
 
Probably because much of the current advocacy against porn is driven by feminist works form Dworkin and MacKinnon. It's mostly feminism that is driving it, though religion does factor in.

Because of this, only things aimed at men seem to be attacked, because women are seen as pretty little angels who can do no wrong.
Anyone that's old enough to remember the 1980's and the 1990's probably remember the same group of moralfags that went after Gangster Rap music and video games.

You did had some conservatives and religious leaders that objected to Gangster Rap and violence in video games but most of the moralfagging against these two things came mostly from what I like to call the Boomer Left.

Back in the 1980's and in the early-1990's, you had people like Al Gore that wanted to censor Gangster Rap because he claimed the music promoted crime and was a bad influence on children and how this music should not be seen legally protected speech. What came out of this in the end is the Parental Advisory label which is the current rating system to any music that has explicit lyrics and warns parents about the content found in a single or album.

Al Gore would move on to his next grift for the rest of the 1990's with video games where he claimed violent video games should be seen as an epidemic that should be outlawed. He would team up with Hilary Clinton and they used video games like Night Trap to moralfag their way in Congress about why video games like Night Trap somehow poses a danger to young women. Both Al Gore and Hillary Clinton would fail in their crusade against violent video games and what we got out of this is the ESRB rating system which was a win for the video game industry and a massive loss or moralfags like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

Which leads me to porn. Most of the anti-porn rhetoric comes mostly from feminists that want to turn America to be as cucked as the UK where they want laws in place that gives women an amount of absurd power to screw over men. You do have some religious voices that object to porn but most of the anti-porn talking points that you do see comes from feminists that champion stupid shit like no-fault divorce and promote debunked nonsense like the claim men earn more than women for their paycheck.

It's also for the same reasons why Western feminists attack countries like Japan because counties like Japan have not drank the feminist Kool-Aid that would lead to their destruction of their countries as they know them; Japan still refuses to let women keep their family surname when married where they must adopt the man's surname, abortion while legal is still restricted in a lot of ways in Japan, and there's also the fact that Japan is not committing cultural suicide where they refuse to import a bunch of sub-80 IQ migrants into their country which pissed off a lot of Western feminists because Japan doesn't want unchecked immigration (because for some weird reason most Western feminists want to import barbaric third-world cultures from countries that can be classified as objectivity misogynist where said misogynist cultures come from the Middle East and Africa).

If you undo over 50 years worth of feminist legalization in America then watch most of the anti-porn talking points disappear overnight when feminists realize they don't have any power in America anymore. Which is happening right now where some states in America now want to require the mother to provide a DNA test to ensure any kids they give birth to truly belongs to the biological father and some states want to do away with no-fault divorce now.

Porn is a vice, can't argue with this. But the big reason why most feminists object to porn isn't because of the well being of women in the porn industry, it's because women instinctively hate competition and they can't stand men looking at the pretty women found in porn over the ugly landwhales that no one really wants. Women generally do not like competition and they will do what they can to eliminate the competition so they can have the man for themselves.
 
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Anyone that's old enough to remember the 1980's and the 1990's probably remember the same group of moralfags that went after Gangster Rap music and video games.

You did had some conservatives and religious leaders that objected to Gangster Rap and violence in video games but most of the moralfagging against these two things came mostly from what I like to call the Boomer Left.

Back in the 1980's and in the early-1990's, you had people like Al Gore that wanted to censor Gangster Rap because he claimed the music promoted crime and was a bad influence on children and how this music should not be seen legally protected speech. What came out of this in the end is the Parental Advisory label which is the current rating system to any music that has explicit lyrics and warns parents about the content found in a single or album.

Al Gore would move on to his next grift for the rest of the 1990's with video games where he claimed violent video games should be seen as an epidemic that should be outlawed. He would team up with Hilary Clinton and they used video games like Night Trap to moralfag their way in Congress about why video games like Night Trap somehow poses a danger to young women. Both Al Gore and Hillary Clinton would fail in their crusade against violent video games and what we got out of this is the ESRB rating system which was a win for the video game industry and a massive loss or moralfags like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

Which leads me to porn. Most of the anti-porn rhetoric comes mostly from feminists that want to turn America to be as cucked as the UK where they want laws in place that gives women an amount of absurd power to screw over men. You do have some religious voices that object to porn but most of the anti-porn talking points that you do see comes from feminists that champion stupid shit like no-fault divorce and promote debunked nonsense like the claim men earn more than women for their paycheck.

It's also for the same reasons why Western feminists attack countries like Japan because counties like Japan have not drank the feminist Kool-Aid that would lead to their destruction of their countries as they know them; Japan still refuses to let women keep their family surname when married where they must adopt the man's surname, abortion while legal is still restricted in a lot of ways in Japan, and there's also the fact that Japan is not committing cultural suicide where they refuse to import a bunch of sub-80 IQ migrants into their country which pissed off a lot of Western feminists because Japan doesn't want unchecked immigration (because for some weird reason most Western feminists want to import barbaric third-world cultures from countries that can be classified as objectivity misogynist where said misogynist cultures come from the Middle East and Africa).

If you undo over 50 years worth of feminist legalization in America then watch most of the anti-porn talking points disappear overnight when feminists realize they don't have any power in America anymore. Which is happening right now where some states in America now want to require the mother to provide a DNA test to ensure any kids they give birth to truly belongs to the biological father and some states want to do away with no-fault divorce now.

Porn is a vice, can't argue with this. But the big reason why most feminists object to porn isn't because of the well being of women in the porn industry, it's because women instinctively hate competition and they can't stand men looking at the pretty women found in porn over the ugly landwhales that no one really wants. Women generally do not like competition and they will do what they can to eliminate the competition so they can have the man for themselves.

They hate Japan because they refuse to bow down to the kind of censorious bullshit that Anita Sarkeesian and the like pushed.

That is why they needed to have Sony back in 2018 and now VISA/MasterCard force censorship from the top down.

Which is ironic because the Broomstick Farms seems to love credit card censorship when it hits anime, but not when Jersh himself gets blacklisted. Also, it's not just lolicon that gets banned. The list of prohibited things has actually grown to hit furries as well, so the people saying "GOOD" to DLSite getting hit are now having a reckoning.

Same people also forget that payment processors were part of the reason right-wing sites were often choked off. Financial censorship swings both ways. Kiwi Farms was probably one of the first ever victims of Operation Choke Point.

It just shows that the censorship systems they put in place to fight adult content can also be used to go after other things, and in fact have been weaponized for political gain. So Kiwi Farms ought to stop celebrating when VISA/MasterCard shuts down some otaku smut site.
 
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Anyone that's old enough to remember the 1980's and the 1990's
I actually do remember the 80s and 90s.
Back in the 1980's and in the early-1990's, you had people like Al Gore that wanted to censor Gangster Rap

1Prince"Darling Nikki"Sex/masturbation
2Sheena Easton"Sugar Walls"Sex
3Judas Priest"Eat Me Alive"Sex/violence
4Vanity"Strap On 'Robbie Baby'"Sex
5Mötley Crüe"Bastard"Violence/language
6AC/DC"Let Me Put My Love into You"Sex
7Twisted Sister"We're Not Gonna Take It"Violence
8Madonna"Dress You Up"Sex
9W.A.S.P."Animal (Fuck Like a Beast)"Sex/language/violence
10Def Leppard"High 'n' Dry (Saturday Night)"Drug and alcohol use
11Mercyful Fate"Into the Coven"Occult
12Black Sabbath"Trashed"Drug and alcohol use
13Mary Jane Girls"In My House"Sex
14Venom"Possessed"Occult
15Cyndi Lauper"She Bop"Sex/masturbation
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Lol at the fact that Prince takes pole position and second place on that. However, zero Gangsta Rap. Back then (1985) Straight Outta Compton hadn't been released, nor Ice T's Cop Killer, so it was still men dressed as women, usually playing Heavy Metal, but a notable mention to Lauper for her ode to smacking the pony.

A bit about Zappa's (MKULTRA styled record producer) testimony and statements around the affair...

"During his statement, musician and producer Frank Zappa asserted that "the PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal's design."

He went on to state his suspicion that the hearings were a front for H.R. 2911, a proposed blank tape tax: "The major record labels need to have H.R. 2911 whiz through a few committees before anybody smells a rat. One of them is chaired by Senator Thurmond. Is it a coincidence that Mrs. Thurmond is affiliated with the PMRC?" Zappa had earlier stated about the Senate's agreement to hold a hearing on the matter that "A couple of blowjobs here and there and Bingo!—you get a hearing."

nfn: Frank used to encourage his kids to shower with Frank's house guests.... to conserve water.
 
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