KF Gossip 🗣️🦻🏼 Besides Onionfarms, what KF alternatives exist?

[Kiwi Pot Pie]

Honestly..... it's gonna be vague but "something that's like old KF." Back when they could laugh and have fun, it wasn't all doom and gloom, everything wasn't a call to action, and not every time a woman or black person appeared in a movie or video game was immediately some major issue to rally around.

also preferably not having a tourette's-like tendency to describe absolutely everything using the n-word.

Kiwi Farms was always a place you would call people niggers and complain that that latest Marvel slop movie had too many niggers and women. It always had links to anti-SJW sites and /pol/, the only difference was it was more equal opportunity and you could also laugh at /pol/ and there were a lot fewer Trump cultists and you could actually criticize his failings.

I may be wrong on the nigger thing though. I think some academic scraped the Kiwi database at some point, so it might be possible to check. I really would be curious to find the frequency of terms like nigger on Kiwi Farms (though I bet 2020 is an outlier year because of the race riots). You could also plot other fun insights like the rise of feminists and the feminist Josh arc with all its keywords.

Though you are definitely right that KF took on a real activist tone around 2019 and definitely by 2022. I think Null was onto something in his rants around that time when he whined about the site getting too political, too big, and not fun. But I just cannot see any way a site would not fall into that trap. You would just end up joining a revolving carousel of sites that either decay into junk like KF did or simply die of irrelevance like Encyclopedia Dramatica.

 

[thepeaguy]

Kiwi Farms was always a place you would call people niggers and complain that that latest Marvel slop movie had too many niggers and women. It always had links to anti-SJW sites and /pol/, the only difference was it was more equal opportunity and you could also laugh at /pol/ and there were a lot fewer Trump cultists and you could actually criticize his failings.

I may be wrong on the nigger thing though. I think some academic scraped the Kiwi database at some point, so it might be possible to check. I really would be curious to find the frequency of terms like nigger on Kiwi Farms (though I bet 2020 is an outlier year because of the race riots). You could also plot other fun insights like the rise of feminists and the feminist Josh arc with all its keywords.

Though you are definitely right that KF took on a real activist tone around 2019 and definitely by 2022. I think Null was onto something in his rants around that time when he whined about the site getting too political, too big, and not fun. But I just cannot see any way a site would not fall into that trap. You would just end up joining a revolving carousel of sites that either decay into junk like KF did or simply die of irrelevance like Encyclopedia Dramatica.

Whole lotta internet people these days really want to lie to themselves and to others on shite like:
>oh the internet used to be so great!
>oh this website and that website used to be so great!
>oh this group chat used to be so great!
Very disingenuous and unhealthy behavior IMO. Ain't saying they should go all blackpill. Just be realistic. Them places they used to go to back then are just time happenings, 'tis all. They can either move on or stay stuck on this selfdestructive romanticism, which not surprisingly most of them lolcow orbiters end up doing the latter.
KF specifically, dunno why anyone would argue it was ever good. One of better things with Clyde is he and most replies acknowledge that KF has always been shite and they were dunces for once believing otherwise, and there ain't no shame in admitting you used to be wrong.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024663861173866529

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024658231281307950

https://twitter.com/x/status/2024661752378429592

 

[nobodyworthwhile]

KF specifically, dunno why anyone would argue it was ever good. One of better things with Clyde is he and most replies acknowledge that KF has always been shite and they were dunces for once believing otherwise, and there ain't no shame in admitting you used to be wrong.

Depends on what aspects you're judging.

For me, I was never big on the Null/management stuff and basically I never encountered him. I usually hung around the media/entertainment/off-topic stuff, and people there used to be sane.

Just for example there was an understanding that "just because there was a girl in it, doesn't mean its woke." I recall pointing out that a lot of shows from the 1980s that we all grew up with, had women, but nobody said Cheetara made Thundercats woke, or that Gadget made Rescue Rangers furry bait.

Last time I was on Kiwifarms a few months ago, they had gone full tard on this same issue. I saw somone specifically claiming that Rescue Rangers (which is from 1989, remember) was specifically an attempt to normalize sexual attraction to animals.

Like, for fucks sake this is one of the last topics I made while on KF. Notice that despite me specifically citing examples like "anime will make you troon out," they very quickly pivot to talking about religious texts, political screeds, or intentional propaganda. At the top of page four I call out what they're doing and immediately get accused of "strawmanning."

Meanwhile, just a few years ago I made a very similar topic with basically the same theme. And look at how different the response was, with Kiwis being a lot more reasonable. It's kind of eye-opening to see the very different takes.

EDIT: Man, reading through those... its kinda funny that in the first one, the only person who made the "propaganda" argument.... was SSJ_Ness. But then in the more recent version that wound up being the go-to argument. That tells you all you need to know.

 

[thepeaguy]

I usually hung around the media/entertainment/off-topic stuff, and people there used to be sane.

Fair doos on that. Others tend to think of that section as its own forum, which tbh may as well and should be.