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I still doubt lidl drip is null because there is actual conflict within their relationship and it seems weird for null to support any ideology which doesn't directly benefit him. Seriously, if lidl drip is null this basically indicates that null is absolutely crazy. Like actually mentally ill if he could just create a new convincing person in his head. How come we've never seen this before?
Seriously, if lidl drip is null this basically indicates that null is absolutely crazy. Like actually mentally ill if he could just create a new convincing person in his head.
Josh's motivation for his male feminist routine isn't even ideological. It's financial.
By his own account, Josh started the m'lady fedora tipping around 2020. In 2020, 9chan had to shut down after CP spam and fedposters made the site untenable and unprofitable. At the same time, TERFs were taking interest in Kiwi Farms for having receipts on the Yaniv drama. TERFs, like many outspoken left-leaning women, donate to causes they believe in. Josh, with dollar signs in his eyes, began marketing himself as a "woman respecting chud", pivoted away from anything related to imageboards, and raked in the money. We know TERFs donate a lot to him because he once complained that since mostly women have T&H, Thunderdomers are worthless to him.
Now that Josh sees a new grift that he thinks could lead to massive damages and exposure, he's going for that. He's begging on Twitter to talk to Asmongold about payment processors despite, not even a month ago, implying that Asmongold is a pedo supporter for being signed to the same talent agency as Kirsche and Shondo and saying that griftubers have nothing for him but the occasional kind word. Josh doesn't want his potential connections in the culture war grift sphere to think he's an uncool male feminist, so he's labeling Collective Shout with every sexist epithet possible: "banshees", "knitting circle", and "holes". He wants to be one of the cool kids again. He wants money to sit alongside Kirsche and Rev Says Desu (two pro-lolicon people he's criticized in the past) and get quoted by Asmongold about how payment processors are bowing to feminazi pressure to RAPE innocent gaymers and chuds. He wants to be part of the same stupid, unproductive ecosystem he's criticized. He has no higher values except the almighty dollar, stomach, and dick.
Lidl is right, though, that this will fail like every movement before it. Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian became experts on online harassment. Vic Mignogna is, in the eyes of the court, a rapist who shouldn't make any new anime dubs while Jamie Marchi and Monica Rial have uninterrupted careers. Comicsgate hasn't brought Marvel back to its macho glory days. Most likely, this payment processor spat is going to burn out after two weeks, a new porn game platform will arise, and Josh will come crawling back to the feminists to get money for his artisan cheese. For all his talk about how manchildren suck, Josh has proven himself to be no different -- just quieter and smarter with a veneer of "maturity".
Here's the thing, the gamers and weebs see Null the same way they see people like Taylor Lorenz. They are not gonna let Null into their movement as they see him as the one who allows his personal army to dox VTubers.
The only one that didn't piss them off was the doxxing of BittyCat because she was an open MAP supporter.
I still doubt lidl drip is null because there is actual conflict within their relationship and it seems weird for null to support any ideology which doesn't directly benefit him. Seriously, if lidl drip is null this basically indicates that null is absolutely crazy. Like actually mentally ill if he could just create a new convincing person in his head. How come we've never seen this before?
Lidl drip is the equivalent of a tyler durden alter ego if it's true that she is null.
* For lidl drip to be null he'd have to sufficiently roleplay as a "girlfailure"(The type of woman who failed in a society which gave her every advantage)
* He'd have to create his own aesthetic/special interest that femspergs tend to have (Lidl drip being interested in aldis for some reason??)
* Do something he's never done and go directly against his own self interest. Writing up a man hate thread, inciting so much scorn from his own website for no reason. I can imagine him doing it for a girl, but him doing it for an imaginary friend??(Okay maybe this is because women get T&H alot but I don't think this much conflict is warranted. Also imagine how much T&H from male users he would've gotten but didnt because of this situation)
* He also had this alter ego break up with him due to his own actions? Yeah it's definitely not because it's a real girl who grew tired of him.
* Have a seemingly different memory than null (Null will react at any slight while drip will be a smidge more reserved)
I know there are some crazies out there, and that DID is a real thing, but this is like saying my alt account is forsaken wanderer. Why would DID only be emerging in null now? Have you considered that a woman would be attracted to null? He's a bad guy, but he's the admin of a forum which has alot of influence on internet pop culture, is smart and can put on a good speech about principles when he wants to.
Here's what happened, drip probably messaged him herself, probably was nice to him, showed null her nudes, and then he folded. Simple as.
Signing up as a former kiwisister and something of a BP "insider" to comment on this. Lidl Drip and Josh are not the same person, and I'd wager they hardly even spoke in private. He liked her because he saw her as an asset. She was a very active user, provided a lot of content, staunchly defended him, and acted as a sort of bridge to the female demographic of the site. He probably considered her the unofficial head of the kiwisisters, which was great for him because that's work his retarded male brain didn't have to do to expand his influence. He might be very confused about why his "retarded holes" statement caused such a change, but the fact is that any woman on the site who has been following his cause and is honest with herself knows she's been making excuses on his behalf for a long time in the hopes that it would serve "the greater good". I understand now that he's simply incompetent. It doesn't really matter how many podcasts he gets himself onto, his popularity peaks with schizos and major changes to society will come from other people who are more competent.
I'm so glad Lidl left, and I wish her the very best in life. I hope the BP users who interacted with her post about leaving follow suit the way I did. KF is a waste of our time, we cannot trust a womens interest group led by a man, and our efforts are far better spent building up with other women.
Despite defending his word choice yesterday, Reddit Josh later removed his comment about feminists and "retarded holes" from his big screed about the payment networks. Lidl Drip won.
Signing up as a former kiwisister and something of a BP "insider" to comment on this. Lidl Drip and Josh are not the same person, and I'd wager they hardly even spoke in private. He liked her because he saw her as an asset. She was a very active user, provided a lot of content, staunchly defended him, and acted as a sort of bridge to the female demographic of the site. He probably considered her the unofficial head of the kiwisisters, which was great for him because that's work his retarded male brain didn't have to do to expand his influence. He might be very confused about why his "retarded holes" statement caused such a change, but the fact is that any woman on the site who has been following his cause and is honest with herself knows she's been making excuses on his behalf for a long time in the hopes that it would serve "the greater good". I understand now that he's simply incompetent. It doesn't really matter how many podcasts he gets himself onto, his popularity peaks with schizos and major changes to society will come from other people who are more competent.
I'm so glad Lidl left, and I wish her the very best in life. I hope the BP users who interacted with her post about leaving follow suit the way I did. KF is a waste of our time, we cannot trust a womens interest group led by a man, and our efforts are far better spent building up with other women.
If she's in the US with Null on some sort of visa she's not allowed to legally work at all until she gets her Greencard. Besides, Null wouldn't make his tradwaifu work a job, that doesn't fit his chudly ideals. She has to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen for him to live out his coca cola advert dreams. I know plenty of moms who scroll Tiktok/Instagram all day.
Save your au fan fics for deviant art. He shelved his sock when he made it say it was leaving the site after making a fake argument for an excuse to get rid of it and make a new one that he thinks will be less obvious.
I still doubt lidl drip is null because there is actual conflict within their relationship and it seems weird for null to support any ideology which doesn't directly benefit him. Seriously, if lidl drip is null this basically indicates that null is absolutely crazy. Like actually mentally ill if he could just create a new convincing person in his head. How come we've never seen this before?
Signing up as a former kiwisister and something of a BP "insider" to comment on this. Lidl Drip and Josh are not the same person, and I'd wager they hardly even spoke in private. He liked her because he saw her as an asset. She was a very active user, provided a lot of content, staunchly defended him, and acted as a sort of bridge to the female demographic of the site. He probably considered her the unofficial head of the kiwisisters, which was great for him because that's work his retarded male brain didn't have to do to expand his influence. He might be very confused about why his "retarded holes" statement caused such a change, but the fact is that any woman on the site who has been following his cause and is honest with herself knows she's been making excuses on his behalf for a long time in the hopes that it would serve "the greater good". I understand now that he's simply incompetent. It doesn't really matter how many podcasts he gets himself onto, his popularity peaks with schizos and major changes to society will come from other people who are more competent.
I'm so glad Lidl left, and I wish her the very best in life. I hope the BP users who interacted with her post about leaving follow suit the way I did. KF is a waste of our time, we cannot trust a womens interest group led by a man, and our efforts are far better spent building up with other women.
There is a lot wrong with this. New user and only post is this. It sounds like something Josh would type up to cover his own ass. And you didn't even post your account on the site you supposedly no longer use which sounds like you are afraid it would get banned or something so probably still use kf. And is at a suspicious time when the gay ops user are coming in full force which happens every time Josh does something that makes it look like he is socking. No evidence or anything. Just expecting us to take it at face value. When there is evidence of the contrary ignored by shills. And you know about this obscure site and thread. Most kf users wouldn't.
Reason: Which means you posted here before and this is a sock.
There is a lot wrong with this. New user and only post is this. It sounds like something Josh would type up to cover his own ass. And you didn't even post your account on the site you supposedly no longer use which sounds like you are afraid it would get banned or something so probably still use kf. And is at a suspicious time when the gay ops user are coming in full force which happens every time Josh does something that makes it look like he is socking. No evidence or anything. Just expecting us to take it at face value. When there is evidence of the contrary ignored by shills. And you know about this site and thread.
I'd ask for you to show me, but from the time I've spent on here so far it seems like even other users who have been here longer than I have are still debating about this whole subject. Tbh, I'm just not interested in it enough to try to debate it out, I'm on my way out of these places and said what I did to offer an alternative explanation for Josh's behavior toward her for people who still aren't convinced they're the same person because I really don't think it had anything to do with them being in a secret relationship or her sending nudes or anything like that. I think she had a crush on him and he saw her as a tool he could use, and that's all, but of course my statements are just hearsay so I'll let you guys continue to hash it out.
I'd ask for you to show me, but from the time I've spent on here so far it seems like even other users who have been here longer than I have are still debating about this whole subject. Tbh, I'm just not interested in it enough to try to debate it out, I'm on my way out of these places and said what I did to offer an alternative explanation for Josh's behavior toward her for people who still aren't convinced they're the same person because I really don't think it had anything to do with them being in a secret relationship or her sending nudes or anything like that. I think she had a crush on him and he saw her as a tool he could use, and that's all, but of course my statements are just hearsay so I'll let you guys continue to hash it out.
The only ones really against it here are users that are clearly doing gayops. Guntchat regular 2 is time 4 guillotines on a sock that was banned multiple times from kiwi farms posing as me to sticker spam users associated with glowie. He is contrarian for the sake of it like a hipster. That is documented too.
Josh isn't smart enough to pull off having a completely different persona and not getting sniffed out by the BP. Null being Lidl is nothing more than a funny joke, and if you take it seriously, you must have a room temperature IQ.
I think she had a crush on him and he saw her as a tool he could use, and that's all, but of course my statements are just hearsay so I'll let you guys continue to hash it out.
Girls get crushes, but girls are also very fickle and @Lunar Magma did a really good job at pointing some pivotal moments when a radfem girl would have turned against Null, but it never happened.
It's unsatisfying bc for those that think Lidl is Josh's sock account, he's not gonna demolish himself. Notice that Lidl will not call Josh a pedophile, even though most of the people Lidl attacks have less evidence of them being pedos. Notice Lidl is not attacking Josh about his Blockland posts, which are vile and filled with misogyny. Somehow those are apparently virtuous and wholesome to Lidl. Notice Lidl doesn't attack Josh over his numerous financial scams either. Any criticism with bite to it is ignored by Lidl. That's one tell for why it's all fake and Lidl isn't real.
What really happened is that Josh read this site and caught up with the thread and he's gotten the feedback to know that people are not believing his roleplay larp anymore. Lidl is Josh's sock. Josh read my and other's posts where we agreed Lidl literally never disagrees with Josh on any issue. So he's course-correcting by pretending Lidl is mad that users are throwing around the "hole" word. Notice Lidl's hate is not even directed at Josh himself but to other vague misogynist male users. So Josh is getting a free get-out-out-jail-free card from Lidl. How nice of "her." So he's putting the account on ice for now, bc we realized it was him with 95% certainty. Lmao.
Josh isn't smart enough to pull off having a completely different persona and not getting sniffed out by the BP. Null being Lidl is nothing more than a funny joke, and if you take it seriously, you must have a room temperature IQ.
Some people really can't deal with Josh having a """girlfriend""", even if the relationship is nothing more than simping in exchange for forum power (the most pathetic form of power that exists).
they're not the same and you can easily test it
just give any information to lidl that is to go to other people and also josh
you will see that lidl does a perfectly fine job transmitting that information to other people
but that when it reaches josh theres just immediate confusion
a good example is when gen chat was laughing at the looksmaxxing forum that null covered on mati
for some reason he like could not bring himself to pay attention to any of the funny parts people, including lidl, tried to point out to him
This was posted in Josh's thread a week ago, but the "holes" spat isn't the first time there's been trouble in paradise:
Summary so you don't have to subject yourselves to MATI:
Shortly before the April 18, 2025 MATI, a female Kiwi threatened to pull her support for the following reasons:
1. A user got a one-week ban for getting into a slapfight.
2. Josh opened Live Talent.
3. Josh was welcoming 4channers during the hack downtime.
4. Josh wanted to use a Hatsune Miku avatar to talk about the 4chan hack.
She saw these actions as Josh enabling the "anime manchild" crowd, and Josh hating anime was a big reason she liked him. Josh's excuses for this were:
1. The hack's Hatsune Miku/Touhou theming made him nostalgic for 2000s 4chan.
2. Undesirable 4channers (lolicons and coomers) went to 8chan.moe.
3. Live Talent hates loli vtubers so much that they doxed Shondo.
The complaint about the one-week ban probably refers to Lidl being banned on April 15 for slapfighting with CallmeCicada. Josh mentions that he gave this person and the other women on the site (though he mentions her specifically) Beauty Parlor to run as they see fit (1:37:28). Beauty Parlor didn't really become womyn's space until Lidl made the manhate thread, so Josh is talking about Lidl when he says that he gave "her" (singular as opposed to plural) that space.
The points Josh makes in his defense are shaky at best and false at worst.
The first point is a nothingburger. The second point is willfully naive, considering how many under the radar coomers (including lolicons) KF has.
The third point is a lie. I remember when Shondo first came on KF's radar. Someone in the Live Talent meta thread asked Josh for a Shondo fan thread. Josh said no, and then the lolicon/shotacon thread regulars, most of whom are not vtuber fans, doxed Shondo. Live Talent had nothing to do with the dox; the main lolcow people did.
Josh sold Lidl one willfully naive statement and an outright lie. He said that Lidl threatened to pull support. Lidl has mentioned donating crypto to Josh. Josh defends Lidl because she (literally) patronizes him. The real question is what Lidl is doing for Josh that makes him defend her like this? Is it money? Sex? Professional connections?
In the Rev Says Desu thread, Lidl mentioned that she followed Cafebeef (edgy Twitter femboy) on lolcow.farm as a personal cow. Lidl has mentioned using lolcow.farm other times. Searching "cafebeef lolcow.farm" returns the following threads:
See if you can find an anon in these threads who posts in a firey, scathing way about hating autistic males and using social Darwinism and dysgenics as an explanation for male degeneracy. Who does that remind us of? >but lots of radfems talk like that
I've seen a lot of online radfems and I've only seen Lidl (and KFers influenced by her) talk about autism as the root of all evil and dysgenics as the root of incels.
You'll see an anon with the same writing style in those threads mentioning dumping a guy after finding out he secretly watched hentai. I remember that when the manhate thread was first made, Lidl complained about guys in middle school looking at hentai of Misty from Pokemon (or something like that, it was 2 years ago). It looks like Lidl got traumatized by hentai in middle school (EPI?), generalized male anime fans as being into hentai, got retraumatized when she found out her boyfriend was into hentai, and generalized all men as hentai gooners unless proven otherwise. This is a hot button for her -- she seemed genuinely distressed when Elon released that Grok Vtuber thing. She escapes to Kiwi Farms because Null hates anime and lolicon, and she slapfights with anime avatars because they're intruders in her safe space. This extends to MATI, so she copies Josh's opinions. Lidl will be back if KF, MATI, and Josh are this significant in her life.
I don't think Lidl is a Josh sock. It's easy (and funny) to believe that, but why would Josh post about random Twitter femboys on lolcow.farm rather than bring the traffic to his own site?
Signing up as a former kiwisister and something of a BP "insider" to comment on this. Lidl Drip and Josh are not the same person, and I'd wager they hardly even spoke in private. He liked her because he saw her as an asset. She was a very active user, provided a lot of content, staunchly defended him, and acted as a sort of bridge to the female demographic of the site. He probably considered her the unofficial head of the kiwisisters, which was great for him because that's work his retarded male brain didn't have to do to expand his influence. He might be very confused about why his "retarded holes" statement caused such a change, but the fact is that any woman on the site who has been following his cause and is honest with herself knows she's been making excuses on his behalf for a long time in the hopes that it would serve "the greater good". I understand now that he's simply incompetent. It doesn't really matter how many podcasts he gets himself onto, his popularity peaks with schizos and major changes to society will come from other people who are more competent.
I'm so glad Lidl left, and I wish her the very best in life. I hope the BP users who interacted with her post about leaving follow suit the way I did. KF is a waste of our time, we cannot trust a womens interest group led by a man, and our efforts are far better spent building up with other women.
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