Gore San & Ishtar love story thread. Also debate Ishtar on her diddy-diddler advocacy and how muh jannies are le bad lol

[PleasantSpark]

I should also mention she hit on me first isn't a legal defense, it mskes you even more guilty. Now come to think of it. Have you actually took a break and got help after the allegations?

And, seemingly, now. You haven't really shown yourself in the best light, and we have to take your word for this. It does come across as you trying to wriggle out of what you said.

Maybe the internet isn't for you. Plenty of studies show it's bad for the mental health of a lot of people.

Nektar you're being too chartiable, reminder, Koofy was Kegloish. The internet is like crack for some people. Staying away is not preferable. I feel as though it was a mistake. People prioritize Internet over Mental Health. It leads into situations like this where they end up using their mental health to justify shit. Have you seen all those apologies where people use variations like "I was in a dark place" to justify their actions? I suspect they ramp up their problems until they decide to go fuck it and ruin their life.

I think the reason why no one cares about what IKOL did here is because apparently everyone is allowed here. Considering you're not banned for defending this shit. I do really not see why we're arguing about this. I do like to retract my statement on whatever it is I claimed but I still like to preface this: I only want to actually have everything. A simple admission isn't enough to convict someone. If I am a defender or wrong for that. Then I guess all the people whose actually been caught are innocent. I'm thinking like a persecutor, not like a Google doc or twitter MCYT User on a throwaway. I apologize for being naive and cautious. But continue this... Slapfight.

 

[IKOL]

IKOL if you want to disprove these people just post screenshots or the context.

I did such thing once on farms and, obviously, nobody have listened to it because nobody have cared about what I'd say, everyone willing to drop me off farms were already fixated on doing so.
'sides this shit is haunting me ever since 2019. I don't have caps of our convos or anything else, they were lost to the history, as well as accounts of both of us with which these convos were made. Again, I have no reason to lie, that'd just would make no sense no matter what. Context was given, people don't care. Or they keep running in circles intentionally expecting that I'll pander to their bullshit.

can you just kill yourself already

Not before you'll get Gaza treatment up your rectum. By Palestinian no less. Or Syrian. Makes no difference there since your "chosen people" been hurting both.

Have you actually took a break and got help after the allegations?

Finding good help in where I live is like trying to find a unicorn.
But I did. In my newfound colleagues after I've returned from army. They were good lads. Sad I had to quit the job because working 5\2 12 hours a day for months with injured foot is not optimal.

Have you seen all those apologies where people use variations like "I was in a dark place" to justify their actions? I suspect they ramp up their problems until they decide to go fuck it and ruin their life.

Usually it leads to suicide. I have a story about one girl I had to know and her uncle. Was a good man, sadly he had issues he wasn't able to bear no longer, so he have decided to end it the way that have left everyone heartbroken.
Glad I haven't tried to do that too despite having a perfect opportunity, once.

 

[PleasantSpark]

'sides this shit is haunting me ever since 2019. I don't have caps of our convos or anything else, they were lost to the history, as well as accounts of both of us with which these convos were made. Again, I have no reason to lie, that'd just would make no sense no matter what. Context was given, people don't care. Or they keep running in circles intentionally expecting that I'll pander to their bullshit.

I see. You did say this was in a community, right? Did anyone come out with this stuff? Where did the Farms find this? Someone must have leaked it, right? Apologies for the pushing. It's just really weird screenshots like that exist but no one actually gives who released them.

 

[IKOL]

I think the reason why no one cares about what IKOL did here is because apparently everyone is allowed here.

It's because this circlejerk was there already but done by @ipreferpickles when he was having lot of fights with @Gore San and @cosmic veteran.
I had no quarell with him but it seems he had thought different and started doing the same kind of shit ishtar\freya does. And what doomtroons were doing before I've got to enter kiwifarms.
It's an unending wheel of derangement syndrome that eats people' brains, I've had shitload of slapfights and gossip with a lot of individuals because of that, because I had to be somewhere, saying something that was not any way related to how things were for real, knowing some people and be both sad and self-loathing for this because some of these people have done a lot of harm to me, including few people I've got feelings about.

The only thing I look for these days are just silence and peace of mind and soul. I won't get either until I'm dead because even when I'll be 90 years old there still will be some brainrotten sperg claiming I'm pedophile because of discord excerts from bumfuck nowhere, from time that have already been long gone and even then have been brimmed with bullshit.

 

[IKOL]

I see. You did say this was in a community, right? Did anyone come out with this stuff? Where did the Farms find this? Someone must have leaked it, right? Apologies for the pushing. It's just really weird screenshots like that exist but no one actually gives who released them.

it was in some, yes. But it was long ago and probably purged from history.
And yes people were coming out after me with this bs and still do, and all the time I have to explain one and the same stuff, over and over again. Dunno form kiwis have got hands on caps (or rather I know but have no way proving it, nor look at my theory myself) It was leaked once by buncha troons, then gotspread from place to place, someeven pushed one Italian I worked with on his project because of his association with me and that I was graphic artist for his project, for some time.
It's okay that you want to get to the root of things and how's what. at least someone does.

 

[Frosty Fetus]

Man people need to learn what logical fallacies actually are

Prove it.

You didnt seem to care they were smearing me. But yeah, how dare i bring up that ikol has ACTUALLY tried fucking a 15 year old

Honestly I find both of you disgusting.

THe only person whos been consistent is @Nektar Geist .

Because he agrees with you

 

[PleasantSpark]

Have you considered.... Not defending yourself? When you're accused of pedophillia or whatever it's not gonna work. I read the thread and the issue is, you care too much. You're trying to prove to people who don't care about your claims and making it worse for you. If you do believe you did nothing wrong you'd just ignore it and focus. But with what I've been seeing it doesn't really look good especially since the story has been a bit wonky. I understand, I understand. You want to clear your name. In order for that to happen. You have to have sufficient proof which you claim is lost media until then you're going be stuck here arguing with someone who really should explain their words. I understand you have the want to defend yourself. But considering I've been in a very different situation where the perpetrator has no sense of actuality on what grooming is and how she used it to manipulate others while also being hella weird to a 12 year old. I was 16 and the person was around my age. Long story short she lied about me over us calling her abusive relationship out. Turns out she was caught doing disgusting shit herself. Didn't need to even do anything she admitted numerous times she lied. This was way back when I was like in middle school. She once assumed I liked her but I never did. The only small difference is, I was dealing with someone who had BPD and had lied like this before. I made the mistake of trusting her, most of the claims against me she had admitted was false. Recently like s few years back she threatened me to take down a post I did calling her out for harassing someone she used. She's not s very reliable person or trustworthy. Shes now a pooner whose basically a more retarded Birdie. She is literally Birdie. Not really but acts just like her, same drama, same victim blaming/card and same behaviors. I have a lot to share but considering she did possessee CSEM of her partners. I rest knowing this BPD idiot is a freak. I stopped trying to defend myself. It's not worth it, mentioning it or even arguing against it or in favor of you seem to not change anyone's minds. Because of what happened to me, I instead developed trust issues.

However, @Nektar Geist isn't trying to be bad faith, he was simply trying to come to the bottom of this. Pointing out flaws in your statements.
@Ishtar doesn't really have a leg to stand on. Considering they are derailing or railroading their own thread about the age of consent. I don't see why we're even entertaining this as they are delaying the inevitable.

 

[PleasantSpark]

>trying to fuck a 15 year old

In real life or over the Internet. Now here's the thing. If IKOL himself flew the minor to his state. That would be grooming. If he HAD intentions on fucking s child. This would be different. But your thread here is DEBATING on an age where it's appropriate to fuck children in. @Nektar Geist do you not see the complete and utter hypocrisy? This isn't an IKOL thread this is a thread against Freya's tendacy to deflect and argue about children fucking. It's always CHILDREN having sex with you. Tell me, have you read IT?

 

[Ishtar]

When gen z gets to be middle aged, younger people will make fun of them for the age gap obsession

 

[PleasantSpark]

Because he agrees with you

I don't think he realizes he's agreeing with someone who is also technically pedo jacketing and advocating for pedophillia. If I knew better I'd just call both parties retarded and move on with my day. Ishtar is troll shielding and being a nigger who calls anyone who disagree or show any signs of skepticism a pedo. You either want people to agree or not. Being neutral always wins especially if it's revealed its a croc of shit. Ishtar did you believe BronyaFandont, ILKP and EmiEmu when it came out against SaberSpark? Or Orion when he accused Kwite? It's important to be skeptical. Allegations sre ALLEGATIONS for a reason. Which if his monkey brain worked is what I have been saying. My arguments and reasoning have been the same. His is just regurgitating the same shit about pedophillia. Focusing on fucking children. Are you mad that IKOL has them? Do you want the children for yourself? Huh? Fucking weirdo.

 

[IKOL]

Have you considered.... Not defending yourself?

No. I haven't. This goes to how I'm raised. If someone says obvious false accusations I have to defend myself. It is how things are here.

you care too much.

because it have done much of a harm, won't matter if I'll be silent or defend myself, retards won't stop. They never.
I know it's a fight where winning is not possible, for most part. And yet I'd rather be honest with myself and others than allow someone throw such shit at me and be silent afterwards. Either way is a weakness but just be silent and letting it flow on its own is worse, imo.

However, @Nektar Geist isn't trying to be bad faith, he was simply trying to come to the bottom of this.

The bottom of this is that the past is the past, me then and me today are different kind of person. I'm just tired explaining all the shit over and over again and be spit in the face for it.
I know myself, that's enough for me. The rest, those who want to prove it's not the case - well you may, but in the end, you all just gotta get as much shit as you throw at me, like it was with that spaniard troon, marisa pedogician, from doom community.

 

[PleasantSpark]

When gen z gets to be middle aged, younger people will make fun of them for the age gap obsession

What does that have to do. Someone asked you earlier about 13 and 19 years old in reference to your statement. That's pedophillia. You literally did not elaborate and you're accusing IKOL and anyone who puts the train back on the tracks as a pedophile. We do not care for a literal who. We are debating you. If you don't have any arguments other then. This user is a pedophile then I'm going to have to believe the worse. I believe that 13 year olds cannot have sex with 19 year olds. Chuldren can't consent. Age of consent is for other children in their age brackets not for adults to fuck children. Personally, it should be at least 25 or so. I don't trust any one at all to make decisions.

 

[Frosty Fetus]

When gen z gets to be middle aged, younger people will make fun of them for the age gap obsession

That's if theirs going to be another generation

 

[PleasantSpark]

No. I haven't. This goes to how I'm raised. If someone says obvious false accusations I have to defend myself. It is how things are here.


because it have done much of a harm, won't matter if I'll be silent or defend myself, retards won't stop. They never.
I know it's a fight where winning is not possible, for most part. And yet I'd rather be honest with myself and others than allow someone throw such shit at me and be silent afterwards. Either way is a weakness but just be silent and letting it flow on its own is worse, imo.


The bottom of this is that the past is the past, me then and me today are different kind of person. I'm just tired explaining all the shit over and over again and be spit in the face for it.
I know myself, that's enough for me. The rest, those who want to prove it's not the case - well you may, but in the end, you all just gotta get as much shit as you throw at me, like it was with that spaniard troon, marisa pedogician, from doom community.

I see. It just feels useless trying to argue with these people. At the end of the day only you have the proof.

 

[IKOL]

Are you mad that IKOL has them?

I fuckin' wish I had a son or daughter and yet...
On the positive side I was raising my blood brother along with parents, giving him my time and knowledge for him to become a good man. He's 18 now and is humble, smart, optimistic for the future so I guess it wass worth the effort.

 

[Frosty Fetus]

What does that have to do. Someone asked you earlier about 13 and 19 years old in reference to your statement. That's pedophillia. You literally did not elaborate and you're accusing IKOL and anyone who puts the train back on the tracks as a pedophile. We do not care for a literal who. We are debating you. If you don't have any arguments other then. This user is a pedophile then I'm going to have to believe the worse. I believe that 13 year olds cannot have sex with 19 year olds. Chuldren can't consent. Age of consent is for other children in their age brackets not for adults to fuck children. Personally, it should be at least 25 or so. I don't trust any one at all to make decisions.

She's doing it because she can't defend her arguements as I said before.

 

[PleasantSpark]

That's if theirs going to be another generation

Gen Alphas there. But they're not interested in whatever age gap shit is going on. I kean someone kirked out over a webtoon lesbo featuring a 33 and 25 year old.

 

[Nektar Geist]

Because he agrees with you

I don't. I merely pointed out her position on "Let the teens fuck" wasn't logically consistent.

Now here's the thing. If IKOL himself flew the minor to his state

Yeeeeesssss....

That would be grooming

Chatting up jail bait online is also grooming.

If he HAD intentions on fucking s child. This would be different.

This is being rather naive.

@Nektar Geist do you not see the complete and utter hypocrisy?

Of what? "Let the teens fuck"? Yes, and I pointed it out. Keep up.

I don't think

That's the part of the sentence that is true. The rest of it... bollocks.

 

[PleasantSpark]

I fuckin' wish I had a son or daughter and yet...
On the positive side I was raising my blood brother along with parents, giving him my time and knowledge for him to become a good man. He's 18 now and is humble, smart, optimistic for the future so I guess it wass worth the effort.

Yeah. In this economy you can't have kids at least where I'm from. I am a womb owner. But I don't want kids because it's too expensive and I doubt my parents will like that. I live on disability and they're my handlers. But I'm required to do the dishes. But it'll be nice.

She's doing it because she can't defend her arguements as I said before.

Again, adhomiem, deflection, cherry picking and concern trolling.

 

[PleasantSpark]

Of what? "Let the teens

Yeah. You pointed it out but she didn't clarify. She kept attacking someone else. Which we were talking about. Somehow this led into IKOL being s pedo. I don't really think it's fair to not cross examine both while intensively claiming one had bad intentions ESPECIALLY if we don't know the full story other then what was given. I'm naive because of caution. False Allegations or Allegations should be treated like they are. "Innocent until proven guilty." If the world all arrested someone based on admission to a crime with no proof. Then we'd have tons of people rotting away.

I find it VERY suspicious the victim in this case had not went public with screenshots. Usually someone would have gone forward with IKOLs chat logs. Which is PART OF WHY I'm saying what I'm saying. Conflating my observation with defending is pedantic and at worse schemantic. Now if he releaed the admission on his own to get ahead. Confirming there was a minor. Then wouldn't the minor have provided the evidence? Why would he have done it on his own? To make himself look bad? There's a victim. We do not have the screenshots of the allegations. It feels like s SaberSpark situation. So forgive me for simply pointing out something that would have solved the back and forth.

I am sorry that I grew wary of allegations regarding pedophillia and grooming as if people misuse the term against people they don't like. I'm sorry if that word being misused to hurt future victims just to get rid of people online they don't like. But I just don't see why we're arguing about someone we don't know exist. I'd expected KiwiFarms to dig and find more evidence on IKOL's crimes especially if this child exists. But we already stated numerous time KiwiFarms runs with any allegations but doesn't actually verify unless needed. Again, I'm sorry I have no faith for people to actually have context of the ACTUAL logs