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[Shadfan666xxx000]

Like you said though, it IS a pendulum swinging too far. I have no problem with people saying blacks should point out crime where they see it instead of shrugging it off with “He… Probably is experiencing systemic racism” but I feel like most people could agree that unironically thinking that all blacks are violent and need to be culled or mass deported for the greater good of society is a bit… much? And if not, I don’t see why I have to grab my ankles and accept the bareback reaming because of something retarded someone else did that happened to be my same skin tone as long as I don’t do the same shit towards other people.

I see where the shift happened and why it happened, I just hardly see it as justifying kiwi’s unironic views. Similarly to how I can see why some black guy would have problems with white guys, but I can hardly see that justifying just being a legit racist against white people. Then again, I guess their whole thing is they’re the average right winger times nine.

Obviously I’m a bit fatigued with trans people, it’s exhausting having to walk on eggshells just because you want to make good faith discussion. And most discussions of racism I have with black people, I’m leaving annoyed, talked over, and thinking “These bitches are as delusional as conspiracy theorists”. But I still look at kiwi’s views with disgust. I don’t see why I have to pay for something I shut down, or why some trans girl like Blair who doesn’t mind being called “him” has to be assumed to be grooming children into calling him “her”. They say “pattern recognition” but I think that shits retarded when it comes to whole subsets of people.

I also have to disagree that “most” white people feel this way. Don’t get me wrong, I feel like most white people have a view that would’ve been considered “racist” years ago, but actual racists like in the farms? I dunno, I see them much more highly than that.

Also I’m glad to see you back!


I’ll be honest, I would be genuinely shocked if I even saw what I saw. I haven’t seen the video though so I don’t know if I would’ve paused as long as they probably did.



To be fair I don’t think Jack is justifying the racism, I think rather he can see why it’s happening. I can see why it’s happening too, I still think it’s retarded and unfair. Like I said, I’m not going to bend over just because people can’t recognize the preschool level concept of “Individuals”. I’m also not going to be “one of the good ones” for anyone, where my whole existence is saying “That’s AWFUL, see, if a white person stabs and rapes me man I’ll just let it happen at this point! Cause black people deserve it!”. I’m already a (fairly) good person. Uh. Kind of good person. Either way any flaw I have certainly isn’t tied to my opinions on white people. Which is the same opinions I have on black people. And Asian people. And Indian people. And literally every other race ever.

Yeah, i get that. If he were actually racist thwn he wouldnt even humor me.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

One of the biggest phenomena we've been seeing on the Internet recently is Black Fatigue, where people are so sick and fucking tired of seeing black people complain about how oppressed they are and how bad they have it despite the fact that blacks in America have more rights and privileges compared to the Jim Crow era and claim 'muh-oppresion' whenever someone in the black community gets shot by police for committing a crime.

For some reason, a good chunk of the black community think breaking the law is "Black Empowerment" when really obeying the law and not being a complete jackass is simply being a decent human being. Not every black person is like this obviously because you do have your share of black people that went to a prestigious educational institution (like Harvard or Yale) and made something of themselves; but the rest of the black community hold themselves back where they think getting a higher education and a decent job is "Whiteness" and so they worship degeneracy like ghetto gangster culture (the Crips and Bloods) because both the Left along with mass media told blacks that you need to be ghetto to defeat the "Evil White Man".

I'm sure everyone here remembers the now famous comedy segment by Chris Rock where he famously said "I love black people but I hate niggas" which was about him complaining about the ultra ghetto aspects of black culture that holds back the black community along with his other equally famous segment where he talks about why black people should obey the law so you cannot end up in trouble. There was also The Boondocks which famously ripped on BET (Black Entertainment Television) for promoting degenerate culture and pointed how how ghetto culture doesn't really benefit the black community in any way. If only the black community listened to Chris Rock and The Boondocks more.

The burtal murder being done by the hands of the monster that killed that refugee from Ukraine should have never happened. That monster had several felonies to their name but they kept getting released by the justice system many times out of fear of being labeled "racist". He should have been locked up years ago because he posed a danger to society. Instead, he kept getting released back into the streets despite being a dangerous criminal because the justice system didn't wanted to be harassed by retarded movements like Black Lives Matter. I'm glad that Decarlos Brown Jr is being charged with murder on a federal level because that means the Democrats can no longer protect him on a state level and the highest punishment reserved for murder on a federal level is capital punishment meaning they'll put him down like a rabid dog should the American federal government get their death penalty conviction for this monster.

The black community needs to hold themselves accountable for once. Los Angeles-styled gangster ghetto culture and always playing the victim when things don't go their way never helped out the black community, the only thing that accomplished was hold them back.

 

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The black community needs to hold themselves accountable for once. Los Angeles-styled gangster ghetto culture and always playing the victim when things don't go their way never helped out the black community, the only thing that accomplished was hold them back.

To be fair, I feel like most of the time gangster culture is within its own. Not all the time obviously, but most deaths by black gangs are other gangs. Ergo why no one really cares.

Also there’s no “black community” just like how there’s no “white community”. There’s just people of the same race. I’m not collaborating and calling council with other black people.

Not every black person is like this obviously because you do have your share of black people that went to a prestigious educational institution (like Harvard or Yale) and made something of themselves; but the rest of the black community hold themselves back where they think getting a higher education and a decent job is "whiteness" and so they worship degeneracy like ghetto gangster culture (the Crips and Bloods) because both the Left along with mass media told blacks that you need to be ghetto to defeat the "Evil White Man".

I don’t think going to Yale is what it takes to do the very easy task of acknowledging that murder is wrong.

 

[Gore San]

If they don't like to call police then they shouldn't be surprised when lynching makes a come back. What are they going to do? Snitch?

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

One of the biggest phenomena we've been seeing on the Internet recently is Black Fatigue, where people are so sick and fucking tired of seeing black people complain about how oppressed they are and how bad they have it despite the fact that blacks in America have more rights and privileges compared to the Jim Crow era and claim 'muh-oppresion' whenever someone in the black community gets shot by police for committing a crime.

For some reason, a good chunk of the black community think breaking the law is "Black Empowerment" when really obeying the law and not being a complete jackass is simply being a decent human being. Not every black person is like this obviously because you do have your share of black people that went to a prestigious educational institution (like Harvard or Yale) and made something of themselves; but the rest of the black community hold themselves back where they think getting a higher education and a decent job is "Whiteness" and so they worship degeneracy like ghetto gangster culture (the Crips and Bloods) because both the Left along with mass media told blacks that you need to be ghetto to defeat the "Evil White Man".

I'm sure everyone here remembers the now famous comedy segment by Chris Rock where he famously said "I love black people but I hate niggas" which was about him complaining about the ultra ghetto aspects of black culture that holds back the black community along with his other equally famous segment where he talks about why black people should obey the law so you cannot end up in trouble. There was also The Boondocks which famously ripped on BET (Black Entertainment Television) for promoting degenerate culture and pointed how how ghetto culture doesn't really benefit the black community in any way. If only the black community listened to Chris Rock and The Boondocks more.

The burtal murder being done by the hands of the monster that killed that refugee from Ukraine should have never happened. That monster had several felonies to their name but they kept getting released by the justice system many times out of fear of being labeled "racist". He should have been locked up years ago because he posed a danger to society. Instead, he kept getting released back into the streets despite being a dangerous criminal because the justice system didn't wanted to be harassed by retarded movements like Black Lives Matter. I'm glad that Decarlos Brown Jr is being charged with murder on a federal level because that means the Democrats can no longer protect him on a state level and the highest punishment reserved for murder on a federal level is capital punishment meaning they'll put him down like a rabid dog should the American federal government get their death penalty conviction for this monster.

The black community needs to hold themselves accountable for once. Los Angeles-styled gangster ghetto culture and always playing the victim when things don't go their way never helped out the black community, the only thing that accomplished was hold them back.

These are valid issues, i wont lie and i could talk about all that but this is a red herring. This man didnt have a gang to claim him. This waa a mentally ill man who should have stayed incarcerated or been committed. It was a case of the state refusing to stay the course with him either way and on that dront the conversation needs to center around North Carolina and its social services because they barely did anything about those towns wiped out by the hurricanes either.

 

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Furthermore, I think a massive issue with “denouncing nigga culture” is some people swing way too far and try to just be fake as hell and act like uppity cultured intellectuals. To the point where they denounce completely harmless, albeit “urban” behavior as somehow making every black person look bad as if we’re some sort of council. You’ve got some black people who feel like black people saying “nigga” should be met with a slap on the wrist and being scolded for having a potty mouth. You have some black people who think sagging justifies hate crime because “Just look at him! Look at how indecent he looked! He was asking for it!”. You have some people who treat, what should just be existing as a fucking job interview. They don’t realize this is also racism, anything that treats blacks like they can’t just live normal lives like how white people do is racism. Whether it’s insisting they have to shoot eachother dead or insisting they have to have high level government jobs to earn respect.

I say “nigga”, I slouch, I listen to trashy music, and… I mean I probably would sag my pants if it weren’t for the fact that I’m a woman. I don’t murder people, I don’t rape people, I don’t approve of that, I don’t hate white people. That should be enough to treat me like a normal person, cause I am one.

I feel like in recent years we’ve overcomplicated something that should be as simple as “Most crimes are wrong, don’t do them, your race doesn't get a free pass”.

 

[SpaceStationRubber]

If they don't like to call police then they shouldn't be surprised when lynching makes a come back. What are they going to do? Snitch?

Hmmm...everyone here knows a certain person who could use a lynching. Spoiler alert, it's the funny pizza cheese man.

 

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These are valid issues, i wont lie and i could talk about all that but this is a red herring.

The Boondocks already talked about them in an actually good and concise way anyway, kek. It’s a dead horse at this point that murders bad, no fuckin shit.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

I think the black people refused to call the police because reminder. Most black people don't want to he a snitch. Then there's the fact we're sharing a train with a motherfucker that ended up stabbing someone. The risk of calling the police and having the guy retaliate is great. Especially since he one stabbed her and die. The second part seems more likely.

But doesn't change the fact everyone decided to loot her body (if that's what they all were doing in the end of the video.)

One of the most toxic aspects of black culture is the refusal to snitch because this has been heavily ingrained into black culture thanks to both the Left and mass media promoting degenerate behavior, "If you got to college to get a good job then you're being entrapped by the white man's game, you should become a ghetto gang banger to defeat whitey."

The No Snitching Rule came from prison culture where if you acted as an informant then you will be targeted by the prison gangs because prison gangs don't want the authorities to know about their activities. But this really toxic rule would seep its way into the outside world where 'No Snitching' doesn't really apply to people who aren't in prison but many people who aren't in prison would adopt this bullshit rule anyway. So the reason why black people are not inclined to snitch is because ghetto prison culture told them that snitching is bad and they should cover for dangerous criminals

The right thing to do is to report serious crimes so that communities can be safer. The Boondocks made fun of this stupid aspect of black culture in an episode before.

 

[PleasantSpark]

To be clear. As apart of the black community what that nigga did was disgusting as shit regardless

 

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I think the black people refused to call the police because reminder. Most black people don't want to he a snitch. Then there's the fact we're sharing a train with a motherfucker that ended up stabbing someone. The risk of calling the police and having the guy retaliate is great. Especially since he one stabbed her and die. The second part seems more likely.

But doesn't change the fact everyone decided to loot her body (if that's what they all were doing in the end of the video.)

I also don’t see why the “four black people” thing is relevant unless they were the only ones who didn’t do anything. Like all the other races did something but the black people were the only ones who didn’t care. If plenty of other non blacks also didn’t do shit then I don’t see how singling out four people who were similarly inactive but just happened to be black is relevant. Maybe I’m just missing something though.

To be clear. As apart of the black community what that nigga did was disgusting as shit regardless

No fucking shit, don’t be a kiss ass. And again, we’re not a community. I don’t even know who the fuck you are.

 

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How many fucking examples do we NEED? Listen I know people like you and home have a dog in the fight, and it's natural to want to protect your own people, but even you two can't be so fucking disingenuous that you would turn a blind eye to this shit and write it off as "muh stirring up racial division" that's a bullshit cop out and you know it.

To be fair I do gotta say I somewhat disagree with Shad that this is some massive government psyop or whatever he’s saying, I think I get what both of you are saying and my thoughts are sort of a mix. There’s a real problem but I feel like some racist bad actors are sorta capitalizing on that problem to sorta “prove racism” correct. But that dosent change the fact that there is still a real problem. In America nowadays we can’t really grasp the concept of focusing on two things at once so for some reason it’s either “Black people did nothing wrong” and “Black people did everything wrong”.

For me it’s not really about “protecting my own people”, if the stabber was white I’d have the exact same feelings.

 

[PleasantSpark]

No fucking shit, don’t be a kiss ass. And again, we’re not a community. I don’t even know who the fuck you are.

I wasn't being one? I was just saying I don't stand by what he did. What part of condemning someone do you not understand. I never condoned the actions of my people, I'm assuming you can't read because where did I bootlick.

 

[PleasantSpark]

I also don’t see why the “four black people” thing is relevant unless they were the only ones who didn’t do anything. Like all the other races did something but the black people were the only ones who didn’t care

I think it's shock. Or just they're desentisized. I was offering an explanation as people were quick to reee about blacks not doing anything but ignoring the last few seconds of the video where people were looting her body. Basically disrespecting a corpse. I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

 

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I wasn't being one? I was just saying I don't stand by what he did.

That’s what I’m saying, of course you don’t. We should reasonably be able to assume you’re not a terrible person like that. When you say shit like “As a member of the black community” that just reinforces the idea that we’ve all collabed to praise this shooter, and you’re the one dissenting. Idk, just talk like a normal person?

I think it's shock. Or just they're desentisized.

See, ok, now I’m confused. Cause you say you’re not for what that guy did but you’re also giving excuses for the people that did nothing. Obviously I’m not expecting a black guy to jump in front of someone being stabbed but someone could’ve at least called the police.

 

[PleasantSpark]

That’s what I’m saying, of course you don’t. We should reasonably be able to assume you’re not a terrible person like that. When you say shit like “As a member of the black community” that just reinforces the idea that we’ve all collabed to praise this shooter, and you’re the one dissenting. Idk, just talk like a normal person?

When I say as a member. I said as me. Not as the community.

See, ok, now I’m confused. Cause you say you’re not for what that guy did but you’re also giving excuses for the people that did nothing. Obviously I’m not expecting a black guy to jump in front of someone being stabbed but someone could’ve at least called the police.

Look man, the dude obviously been to prison before. It's not a crowded train station. But I don't wanna risk being stabbed either. But. After the situation ONCE he's off. Then yes, if you immediately call the cops while the perp is armed and dangerous (and I'm assuming he knows what vital organs to rupture.) is a death sentence but once he's gone a safe distance then I can do it.

However, no one did anything after the fact. In fact they just either gawked or just moved away. And I thought that Japan had a terrible reputation for this sort of thing. But yeah. I have trouble expressing or explaining my process. But I'm saying. All in all it's a damgerous situation and the others just acted like it was normal. Which if someone lives in that area confims it? Regardless. It's not normal for someone to just randomly stab someone then have the occupants watch as the guy walks away admitting it.

I'm assuming someone eventually did. Might've been the person riding the train. Still should've been a priority rather then sit around (everyone) and gawk. Sorry if I sound strange it's just that jumping on people with opinions n shit with how often people think this is all hoe black people are (which mainly is on Green Reddit.) my main point is. People should take mental health seriously if people like him would be allowed to roam then instances like this can continue.

 

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Look man, the dude obviously been to prison before. It's not a crowded train station. But I don't wanna risk being stabbed either. But. After the situation ONCE he's off. Then yes, if you immediately call the cops while the perp is armed and dangerous (and I'm assuming he knows what vital organs to rupture.) is a death sentence but once he's gone a safe distance then I can do it.

I can see where you’re coming from, but there’s code words and discreet ways to call 911 for exactly this reason. I can understand the fear of being next but people have called 911 on the scene before without dying, besides, not much of a point in calling them if the guys already gone.

But yeah. I have trouble expressing or explaining my process. But I'm saying.

Thats ok. I’m bad at that too honestly.

I'm assuming someone eventually did. Might've been the person riding the train. Still should've been a priority rather then sit around (everyone) and gawk. Sorry if I sound strange it's just that jumping on people with opinions n shit with how often people think this is all hoe black people are (which mainly is on Green Reddit.) my main point is. People should take mental health seriously if people like him would be allowed to roam then instances like this can continue.

I get what you mean, and don’t get me wrong, I know how fucking annoying it is when people assume you feel a certain type of way just cause of your skin. Or when people expect you to be tard wranglers just cause you came from the same country as the tard. If white people don’t gotta do that we shouldn’t have to either, but I feel like this tard wrangler attitude comes from black people. We were the ones saying for years that white people have to “Hold each other accountable”, now we’re being told the same thing and realizing how retarded of a concept it is. Here’s the thing, I have no issue with forcing this on black people who believe in racial collectivism. The problem arises when you force it on sane black people who don’t. We get caught in the crosshairs and I’m more mad at the racist black people than the racist white people if I’m going to be honest. I want to be treated as an individual without having to throw my entire race under the bus, but I can see why that’s difficult. I am genuinely grateful to know a guy like Jack who’s critical but not straight up racist.

I will say, I can 100% understand freezing up when confronted with something that you don’t identify with… In real life. I don’t get freezing up on a forum though where you can take as much time as you want to formulate a response. You’re not on the clock, me personally I meditate on what I’ll say before I say it, then add some slurs in so I sound cool

I do agree mental health is important and is being pushed aside by society now more than ever. I don’t think this is a mental health issue though, I think that guy was just actually racist, kek. Calling a Ukrainian a “white bitch” after stabbing her to death, I mean, what else do you call that other than racist? Are Ukrainians even white???

I also wanna say, Jack’s goofing by the way. He’s not actually racist nor does he want black people mass killed or anything (You had a small back and forth with him iirc?), he just wants some accountability. Which I think is easier done than said.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Well enough of the politics. We're derailing this thread and something more important is happening as Charlie Kirk has just been killed. I set up a thread for this.

 

[PleasantSpark]

I also wanna say, Jack’s goofing by the way. He’s not actually racist nor does he want black people mass killed or anything (You had a small back and forth with him iirc?), he just wants some accountability. Which I think is easier done than said.

Oh nah. I'm not beefin with Jack. I cool with him. But it's the mfers on the farms that insist we all are bad. Yeah, people in our circles which are a lot like puppychan thinks black people can't be racist when I seen more racism from blacks then not boondocks was mentioned and Uncle Ruckus is a character that embodies black racism.

 

[PleasantSpark]

Well enough of the politics. We're derailing this thread and something more important is happening as Charlie Kirk has just been killed. I set up a thread for this.

I've been waiting for a discussion on this. Thanks