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>Texas banning loli is based
>I do believe in freedom of creativity/creative freedom

I do love how Kiwi Farms never beats the allegations in being optics cucks. You're either for free speech or you aren't. Anyone that says "I'm for free speech but" should have their opinion discarded in the dumpster because it's clear they don't care about free speech, they only care about their own speech and disregard everything else (see lolcows like Richard Spencer and Nick Fuentes where they only support speech that support their cause but want other forms of speech banned). Before some idiot says "Oh you want to legalize CSAM? Are you a pedophile?" I still think CSAM should still be banned and child predators should be locked behind bars but using low hanging fruit should never be an excuse to push for aggressive censorship (see the UK's Online Safety Act to see what I mean in how the UK is heavily censoring their own Internet for "Public Safety").

Furthermore, should Texas abuse their new anti-AI CSAM law by going after random weebs instead of going after dangerous child predators then it's going to get challenged in the American federal court system because unlike Europe, it's a lot easier to challenge bullshit laws and policies in America (even conservative courts like the 5th Circuit don't always humor the bullshit being pushed by retarded tradcons). This is already settled U.S. legal policy (see Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition which ruled in favor of lolicon content) so should Texas try it, they're most likely going to lose (because even Clarence Thomas who is a conservative justice and currently serving in SCOTUS ruled in favor of lolicon along with several other conservative SCOTUS justices that were appointed by Nixon and Reagan back in 2002).
 
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>Texas banning loli is based
>I do believe in freedom of creativity/creative freedom

I do love how Kiwi Farms never beats the allegations in being optics cucks. You're either for free speech or you aren't. Anyone that says "I'm for free speech but" should have their opinion discarded in the dumpster because it's clear they don't care about free speech, they only care about their own speech and disregard everything else (see lolcows like Richard Spencer and Nick Fuentes where they only support speech that support their cause but want other forms of speech banned). Before some idiot says "Oh you want to legalize CSAM? Are you a pedophile?" I still think CSAM should still be banned and child predators should be locked behind bars but using low hanging fruit should never be an excuse to push for aggressive censorship (see the UK's Online Safety Act to see what I mean in how the UK is heavily censoring their own Internet for "Public Safety").

Furthermore, should Texas abuse their new anti-AI CSAM law by going after random weebs instead of going after dangerous child predators then it's going to get challenged in the American federal court system because unlike Europe, it's a lot easier to challenge bullshit laws and policies in America (even conservative courts like the 5th Circuit don't always humor the bullshit being pushed by retarded tradcons). This is already settled U.S. legal policy (see Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition which ruled in favor of lolicon content) so should Texas try it, they're most likely going to lose (because even Clarence Thomas who is a conservative justice and currently serving in SCOTUS ruled in favor of lolicon along with several other conservative SCOTUS justices that were appointed by Nixon and Reagan back in 2002).
To be fair, Kiwis are just for banning pornography in general (Old screenshot, not sure why I left out the user)
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I’m not defending loli by any means, more so pointing out that this most likely is an extension of Kiwi’s strange desire for a government to control their genitals. There’s a debate to be had about banning pornography, especially ones that uses real actors, but Kiwis aren’t very interested in keeping that debate sane and grounded in reality.

What blows me the most is their idea of “gooning”, that people who watch porn are these insatiable beasts that will snap and rape your child given the chance. It’s like, are they not aware a majority of society watches porn? Not as much nowadays since it’s become “cool and right wing” to avoid it but still, a good chunk watches porn. Like they’re aware they meet these “gooners” everyday and literally nothing bad happens, right?
 
Honestly perfectly describes lolcows nowadays. Kiwifarmers can’t wrap it around their heads that I genuinely could not give less of a shit if someone is into the dad from Bluey, or if a lolcow made an OnlyFans, or if there was a furry convention in an unconventional place, I just don’t fucking care, nigga. But if you don’t then “You’re brainwashed by clown world”.

It makes me genuinely wonder, so like, how’s outside like for these people? How do they relate to anyone or spend time with anyone? When all they wanna talk about is shit no one cares about? When they have immense disdain for groups of people for incredibly delusional reasons? How do these people have friends or meet anyone that’s not in the same miserable online hovel as them? You can get away with that as a soyteen cause you don’t really have any adult responsibilities, but when you’re a full grown farmer and you have to go out into the world, what are you going to do when you get socked in the face for calling a black man a nigger as “a joke”? What are you gonna do when people start avoiding you cause you’re “That weird guy that wants to instill a government where porn usage gets the death penalty”, what are you gonna do when no one wants to be friends cause you hate half of the human population?
I don't know if it's just me, but farmers tend to not be "too explicit" about what they like because they're probably too afraid of seeming like lolcows to others.
Saying this because the bar to be a "lolcow" is rock bottom at this point.
Like, wow, there's 30 million people just like that guy, what makes this thread worthy?

It's like a bizarre self-imposed religion.

+ hey, new here
 
To be fair, Kiwis are just for banning pornography in general (Old screenshot, not sure why I left out the user)
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I’m not defending loli by any means, more so pointing out that this most likely is an extension of Kiwi’s strange desire for a government to control their genitals. There’s a debate to be had about banning pornography, especially ones that uses real actors, but Kiwis aren’t very interested in keeping that debate sane and grounded in reality.

What blows me the most is their idea of “gooning”, that people who watch porn are these insatiable beasts that will snap and rape your child given the chance. It’s like, are they not aware a majority of society watches porn? Not as much nowadays since it’s become “cool and right wing” to avoid it but still, a good chunk watches porn. Like they’re aware they meet these “gooners” everyday and literally nothing bad happens, right?

The only way to enforce such a law would be a massive surveillance state. Which we are already on our way to anyways, so...
 
I don't know if it's just me, but farmers tend to not be "too explicit" about what they like because they're probably too afraid of seeming like lolcows to others.
Saying this because the bar to be a "lolcow" is rock bottom at this point.
Like, wow, there's 30 million people just like that guy, what makes this thread worthy?

It's like a bizarre self-imposed religion.

+ hey, new here
Welcome! And I hard agree, the lolcows nowadays are nothing like the lolcows in the olden days. The threads are nothing like it either, the “no a-logging” rule has pretty much vanished.

No hate to Ruben, but check the Ruben Sim Derangement Syndrome thread. That’s like peak Kiwi identity confusion. A-logging is encouraged and the norm and the whole point of the thread is to highlight literally billions of people with the same personality where none of them have anything that is actually unique or entertaining.
 
Pretty much. Scary part is now they have the technology to enforce it.
Then you have one country Nepal pulling in 5D Chess by announcing they are going to ban 23 of the most popular social media platforms in America because Donald Trump refuses to listen to a communist country to read private messages of their own citizens to protect innocent children from bad evil online pedophiles. You wanna see what happens when a corrupted Government gone too far?




You get stuff like this.
 
Then you have one country Nepal pulling in 5D Chess by announcing they are going to ban 23 of the most popular social media platforms in America because Donald Trump refuses to listen to a communist country to read private messages of their own citizens to protect innocent children from bad evil online pedophiles. You wanna see what happens when a corrupted Government gone too far?




You get stuff like this.
B-B-B-But at least… At least goonings banned… :Onionweep:
 
It makes me genuinely wonder, so like, how’s outside like for these people? How do they relate to anyone or spend time with anyone? When all they wanna talk about is shit no one cares about? When they have immense disdain for groups of people for incredibly delusional reasons?
i see most of these people seem to be on other places like twitter and facebook

im just banned from most of those things as myself and if i have to hide under a new account and a disguise whats the point. i miss my old friends.

4chan jannies tightening the screws on me now.

i landed on KF because it was the last house on the block . the veneer is wearing thin and some of them are cool many are assholes. and im such a loser i missed onionfarms in its downtime because i started preferring here

these last couple days i found w so called cows i saw the humanity or myself in and kind of like or relate to or i liked their music and reading the shit there is actually gross

moralfagging kiwikarens can say whatever about 4lungs sexual proclivities for example i like their music and personality(knew of them from elsewhere NOT kf) and i dont want to read that other shit and thats the thread where i started getting upset with the site. god forbid the lens be pointed back at me because the shit i did was cringe too. wonder whats in your fucking closets too.

joe winko was a cunt and i disliked him but im still sad about him dying and thats what i get for opening that door . i thought or hoped he was faking it and would be back any day laughing at us all. i wish i did not bear witness to that. i could relate to some of the things that broke him. its not how i reacted to those ugly parts of being gay and lonely. and i dont want to react to them by turning into a rock chucking kiwikaren mob pretending im not just the same.
 
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To be fair, Kiwis are just for banning pornography in general (Old screenshot, not sure why I left out the user)
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I’m not defending loli by any means, more so pointing out that this most likely is an extension of Kiwi’s strange desire for a government to control their genitals. There’s a debate to be had about banning pornography, especially ones that uses real actors, but Kiwis aren’t very interested in keeping that debate sane and grounded in reality.

What blows me the most is their idea of “gooning”, that people who watch porn are these insatiable beasts that will snap and rape your child given the chance. It’s like, are they not aware a majority of society watches porn? Not as much nowadays since it’s become “cool and right wing” to avoid it but still, a good chunk watches porn. Like they’re aware they meet these “gooners” everyday and literally nothing bad happens, right?
It's because Jersh drank the Radfem Kool-Aid where he thinks Radfems are not lolcows when Radfem are complete lolcows. Jersh is a retarded radfem because he thinks he will get pussy from Lili Drip (if Lili Drip is a real person and isn't a sock that is).
The only way to enforce such a law would be a massive surveillance state. Which we are already on our way to anyways, so...
Then you have one country Nepal pulling in 5D Chess by announcing they are going to ban 23 of the most popular social media platforms in America because Donald Trump refuses to listen to a communist country to read private messages of their own citizens to protect innocent children from bad evil online pedophiles. You wanna see what happens when a corrupted Government gone too far?




You get stuff like this.
The hilarious part is that you can't really count on the GOP to fully embrace a China-styled surveillance state because individualism and collectivism are like oil and water, no matter how hard you try you will never mix the two together because their properties cause them to reject each other.

The GOP does have its share of radicals that want religion to play a very large role in people's lives but they always fail on the count that not everyone in the GOP is that crazy about turning America into Iran. So long as the GOP still embraces some aspects of individualism (firearm ownership, property rights, the U.S. Constitution, etc) then fringe right-wing groups like the Dissident Right or the Religious Right will never really get their way. Even the 2nd Trump administration has threatened to put more tariffs on both the UK and the EU over their plans to regulate the Internet and Trump administration's own FTC has warned American Big Tech to simply disregard what Europe is trying to do (it's very difficult to do authoritarianism in America when even the GOP can't agree on a universal definition how to be an autocrat in America).

You'd think the GOP would fully embrace shit like the UK's Online Safety Act or the EU's proposed Chat Control policy because these two things would be very powerful tools to police speech on the Internet in America but so far the GOP has rejected what the UK and the EU are doing because Trump opposes to what Europe in general is doing. Shit, even Trump and the GOP have denounced debanking by the credit card companies where you'd think they'd embrace that too because debanking would also be a very powerful tool for an authoritarian government (which proves my point that the GOP will never be truly authoritarian so long as they keep embracing some aspects of individualism).

Here's a few examples of the Fringe Right taking some big Ls because they fail to acknowledge that America isn't Russia.

These are just a few recent examples that show you just how difficult it is to establish collectivist values in America because America since its foundation was founded on staunch individualism. So long as the American Constitution stands as is, the Far-Left will never be able to truly ban guns and the Far-Right will never be able to truly ban porn either.

The point I'm trying to make here is that if the Kiwis really want porn to be banned in America then they have to start openly advocating to abolish the U.S. Constitution, abolish property rights, and have the American government no longer have checks and balances anymore where the American government acts under a fully centralized authority (much like what you see in present day China, Russia, and Iran). You can either have individualism or you can have authoritarianism, you can't have both.

I just wish the Kiwis would stop lying by omission and they should just admit they want a fascist state. They should stop pretending about caring for American values and they should be honest that they want America to be like mid-20th century Germany where they can LARP as a Nazi SS officer.
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while im at it

i say 4lung because theres nothing kiwifarms said about them that is as interesting to me as what they have to say for themselves

thats the person who just helped me understand that trannies hate and ban and cancel and shun and shit on and treat each other like garbage too

and turned me on to invisible monsters

and im just where you all my life i wish i had someone like to tell me all the things i need to know

patricia taxzon is cool too. youre like HAHAHHAHA MAN VOICE NAILS ON CHALKBOA- waaait this is good.

and i liked her more vulnerable honest tweets before they shamed her into cleaning her timeline and becoming invisible

thats the people i belonged with. fuck kiwi farms. now that i know people like that exist i want to be invisible and grey and play possum too.

leaving the internet a world full of people like them

now i actually hope that site fucking dies and they have a cwcki board thats nothing but josh moon cow content
 
Even they felt it autistic. Also ten? I can only remember like. Two.

Actually, Bittersweet isn’t a sex offender, is he? He’s just into fictional kids.

i see most of these people seem to be on other places like twitter and facebook

im just banned from most of those things as myself and if i have to hide under a new account and a disguise whats the point. i miss my old friends.

4chan jannies tightening the screws on me now.

i landed on KF because it was the last house on the block . the veneer is wearing thin and some of them are cool many are assholes. and im such a loser i missed onionfarms in its downtime because i started preferring here

these last couple days i found w so called cows i saw the humanity or myself in and kind of like or relate to or i liked their music and reading the shit there is actually gross

moralfagging kiwikarens can say whatever about 4lungs sexual proclivities for example i like their music and personality(knew of them from elsewhere NOT kf) and i dont want to read that other shit and thats the thread where i started getting upset with the site. god forbid the lens be pointed back at me because the shit i did was cringe too. wonder whats in your fucking closets too.

joe winko was a cunt and i disliked him but im still sad about him dying and thats what i get for opening that door . i thought or hoped he was faking it and would be back any day laughing at us all. i wish i did not bear witness to that. i could relate to some of the things that broke him. its not how i reacted to those ugly parts of being gay and lonely. and i dont want to react to them by turning into a rock chucking kiwikaren mob pretending im not just the same.
I feel for you honestly, dude. It’s late so I’m shit at formulating my thoughts but I totally get what you mean, Kiwi culture demands you to care about certain things that most people just don’t. But if you don’t you’re (insert accusation here). I can sorta relate, I can’t sleep in silence so I usually play YouTube videos as I sleep. For a good while I’d use Kiwitapes and Smokey’s videos, I wasn’t a fan of monetizing lolcow content but man I just didn’t fucking care. But apparently to kiwis that’s a sin upon mankind and Brenden and Smokey must secretly be child predators. (I don’t watch them anymore purely cause their content has gotten a bit same-y and bland.).

Truth be told however, half of the kiwifarm’s extreme admonishment comes from them hiding what they actually dislike about the person. Smokey and Kiwi? They claim it’s because they’re encouraging harassment and blahity blahity blah, but really it’s cause they’re making money off of stealing kiwi threads. 4lung? They claim it’s like ohhh he’s a diaperfur and blah blah, it’s cause he’s a transgender furry. Obviously I don’t like diaperfurs but come on, if 4lung was a cis man who made completely normal techno then the thread wouldve been significantly less active.

Speaking of 4lung, it’s that guy with the yellow dog character, right? I have to say I always liked his art. They gave off a fun and chaotic vibe. Never actually listened to his music though.

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I think Jack ultimately was right when it comes to lolcow culture where there’s something seriously fundamentally wrong with it. I feel like there’s times where it’s acceptable, but kiwis often cross that line. Obviously that’s their prerogative, it’s whatever, just be glad we’re here where we can acknowledge the flaws in cyberstalking mentally ill people, and even acknowledge the most controversial fact, that maybe a lot of lolcows end up doing horrible stuff because knowing there’s thousands of people following your every move is a bit sanity breaking?

To this day the one thing I respect kiwifarms for the most is when they stopped snooping in on Chris after the idea guys.

It's because Jersh drank the Radfem Kool-Aid where he thinks Radfems are not lolcows when Radfem are complete lolcows. Jersh is a retarded radfem because he thinks he will get pussy from Lili Drip (if Lili Drip is a real person and isn't a sock that is).
Total radfem death. Nothing I hate more than a radfem. Most people I try to have some amount of civility with but I have little to no love for radfems. Maybe it’s a problem, but I can’t care for someone who believes the subjugation, objectification, and abandonment of an entire sex is not only ok but preferred, for no reason other than shit that happened years ago that had literally nothing to do with them in their lifetime. I think the reason why radfems anger me more than people like those fresh and fit niggas is cause I know more good men in my life than I know good women. Good men who don’t deserve to take radfem shit, and bad women who deserve the worst life has to offer. Misogyny is bad obviously but I can almost get it, misandry is total retardation. I’m so glad that everyone put Lidl in her place in that one payment processor post. Stay gone, hole.
 
now i actually hope that site fucking dies and they have a cwcki board thats nothing but josh moon cow content
Hmm, that’s a good question. Can Kiwifarms die?

Well, since 2022 it’s had a steady culture change. What kept Kiwifarms going is the fact that it was all jokes, no one actually hated black people or transgenders, everyone was just busting eachother’s balls cause it’s funny. That was its main defense, all the “tranny” and “nigger” stuff were just jokes. The average person could say “Ok, not my humor, but I’m glad you’re not being serious”.

Fast forward to 2025 and it’s not jokes anymore, there’s legit actual for real racists and people who actually get off to seeing trans people botched in surgeries. Could this get Kiwifarms shut down? Not sure. Probably not legally, maybe some sort of mass disavowal. Like how OnlyFans was shunned by the internet, if the web found out that it’s no longer a joke, maybe KiwiFarms could become the internet laughing stock. The laughing stock that, if you’re caught with an account, you’re shunned. Maybe. But that would require people even knowing how bad it’s gotten. The outcome was unlikely and what would have to happen to get the outcome is even more unlikely.

Now, maybe KF could “die” by Josh’s handling? I mean, it’s hanging on by a thread when it comes to the code, and he apparently is running out of money to fund it. But even then, it imploding in on itself would take genuine years.

If KF does die, it won’t be this year. Or next year. Or the year after that. I can only ever see it dying if Josh himself died from old age or something.
 
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