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"Everyone my age is going to nuclear power plants and war zones" - Dylan Burns

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What war does to a MFer:

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That's Youtuber/Political Twitch Streamer Dylan Burns, before Ukraine and after having visited Ukraine and gone back for more.

Yeah, I know Dylan Burns is supposed to be a State Dept shill and all that, but damn, his Livestreams are hilarious sometimes:

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This whole reaction Livestream to Zeihan on the Joe Rogan Show is one priceless screenshot after another. All you zoomers that wanna be kino need to study this Livestream.

I'll try to do some more serious posts about his documentaries in Ukraine with a de-mining organization called The Angels of War, as well as his association to journalist Patrick "VeganAF" Hilsman and the @OffBeatResearch website for which Dylan Burns has written an article about demining in Ukraine, a site that appears to be run by a Bellingcat associated individual, which basically makes it sus from the get-go.

For the record, I don't seriously think Dylan Burns is a State Department shill, though I do think it's a great running joke on social media that he is. I do think he's an unwitting mouthpiece of the US State Dept because he's cynical about conflict (more on this later) and desperately wants to believe that there is such a thing as a "just war", when the other side thinks the same thing about themselves and assumes their war-mongering to be justified and justifiable. I think Dylan has that meme flag of the CIA logo in his room just to fuck with people, not because he's actually a CIA agent. I do suspect he's a typical Democrat political careerist who desperately wants the "wartime activist/reporter" credentials that he hopes will fast-track his political career in his home State of Maryland (he said that his true ambition is to be a Maryland politician), but without having to actually serve in the military, unlike some of the politicians he thoughtlessly attacks in his videos, people who unlike Dylan himself are themselves former service members:

 
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Here's a video where Dylan Burns describes being questioned by the DHS (Department of Homeland Security) at a Florida airport upon his return from Ukraine. Dylan Burns claims it was a CBP agent and doesn't explicitly say it was the DHS but presumably that was who questioned him. He explicitly named Patrick Hilsman, his associate at the Off Beat Research website (the one that was founded by the Bellingcat associate), as the one person in the US who can vouch for him before US authorities:


OF, I need your help. Can someone tell me what this tattoo means?

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I see a skull with a Z on its forehead and a feather(?) on top, with some kind of iron-work woven into and around it. The bottom of the iron work looks like a heart with a cross in the middle. I have no idea what this is. I am guessing it's supposed to depict the skull of a dead Z supporter, so a dead Russian soldier. I don't understand why it's woven into the iron work though. Maybe it's supposed to be like a "Vlad the Impaler" kind of thing, where Ukrainians behead dead Russian soldiers and stick their severed heads onto iron gates to leave the skin the rot off their skulls, as a warning to their enemies? Otherwise I have no explanation for this weird tattoo. If anyone knows please share. Dylan says it's "vulgar" but I think it's a rather disturbing gruesome tattoo. Like, if I got a tattoo of a visibly male skull with the trans logo on its forehead lying on the front-steps of the White House as warning, would I be allowed to enter the US with such a tattoo on my back? Of course not!

Here's the part from the video where he shows off his back tattoo:


Edit: I did some more research and apparently the ironwork is supposed to be the Ukrainian coat of arms which incorporates the trident seal of the Grand Prince of Kyiv:




Until the Western establishment had its latest "We have always been at war with Oceania" bout of cognitive dissonance and selective amnesia, the trident was considered a terrorist symbol due to its use by the far-right Azov battalion:




So yes, the tattoo of a Russian Z soldier's severed skull rotting on the spears of the Ukrainian trident was definitely meant to be a "Vlad the Impaler" kind of thing.

 

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Dylan Burns reveals how he got his press pass - though he keeps flip-flopping whenever asked if he's a journalist, I wonder why...


DB: There's a thing, called, like, a fixer whom you pay to get you an embed and they'll generally not only translate for you, but they will also find good stories for you. That's a fixer. That's a little different than, like, an escort. I don't have, like, a body guard. (...) I can't afford that.

DN: But how do you get, like, in touch with these folks? Do you have, like, a press pass and you officially apply to the Ukrainian government?

DB: I do. Yeah, I am officially accreditated with a press pass by the Ministry of Defense, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. It's really weird having, like, an ID card that's a military ID card. It doesn't mean I am military but it looks exactly like a military ID.

Funny, I thought it was media companies who gave their journalists press passes... not a ministry of defense.

And you show it to people, you show it to, like, soldiers and people at checkpoints, and it usually answers all the questions that are necessary for you to keep going on whatever journalistic endeavour that you're going to. Because, the vast majority of times you're gonna be showing it to people it's gonna be at checkpoints. Checkpoints are everywhere across this country. They're on every major road and even in back roads across the villages, across the countryside. So you're gonna be needing to flash it to them quite frequently.

But I got in touch with these people mostly through just personal interaction, just meeting people in bars, knowing a guy who knows a guy, who knows a guy. Being able to dedicate the entirety of my time outside of streaming to this has allowed me to build deep personal ties here in Ukraine. A lot of the time that I'm not streaming, I'm not even, like staying at my apartment that I have here. I usually... there's a good chance that I'm spending time with families or friends that I'm very close with down here, and just relaxing and spending time with them. Staying that their place while writing articles and stuff like that. (Read: he's building repport with the locals so they can get him to people&places.) Because, not only does it help myself embed myself deeper in the country, it's also more enjoyable because it sucks to be alone in a warzone."
 

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Here is Dylan Burns' OffBeatResearch associate Patrick Hilsman being interviewed about Ukraine:


Here is a picture of Patrick Hilsman eating at a table together with Dylan Burns on the lower right corner:

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Time-stamped source.

This means that when Dylan Burns visited Ukraine, he was there with Patrick Hilsman... but AFACT (I am still going through his videos retroactively), Dylan never disclosed the fact that he was there with Patrick. Kinda strange IMO. In the above video Patrick Hilsman does not identify Dylan Burns by name but instead shows him as a member of his "film crew".

I also want to highlight this part from the above interview:

The fact that the Ukrainians have stuff like early warning systems, advanced satellite technology that the Americans have provided them, has made a huge difference. Just having a warning of a few minutes is the difference between soldiers getting blown up in an airstrike and being able to take shelter and survive it. I witnessed things like that where the technological edge that the Ukrainian forces have, in some circumstances saves a life, and that is a massive difference.


Let's look closely at his part:

The fact that the Ukrainians have stuff like early warning systems, advanced satellite technology that the Americans have provided them

In one of his earlier Livestream interviews where he had announced his trip to Poland, Dylan Burns stated that he went into Ukraine with a budget of $ 30 000 of his own savings, a portion of which Dylan Burns had supposed used to buy Starlink systems for the Ukrainians so that they could still access the internet in the midst of a war. Here's Dylan Burns tweeting about bringing Starlink to Ukraine, including a video of him placing boxes - that presumably contained the Starlink systems - in the back of a car:

I have a new video out covering how Elon Musk became an unlikely, and controversial, ally to the Ukrainian government.

It has original footage of aid workers delivering Starlink terminals, which connect to Space X's satellite system, to soldiers on the frontline.

Archived: https://archive.is/vipDM

Here is the full video titled Ukraine Is Risking It All On Elon Musk, which is mostly about service outages and how the US military "shouldn't put all their eggs in [Elon Musk]'s basket":


Like most woke SJW BreadTubers, Dylan Burns hates Elon Musk but still wants to bring his technology to war-torn Ukraine for some reason...

Here are some of Dylan Burns' other tweets about the use of Starlink systems in Ukraine:

I am really excited about this piece I'm working on about Elon Musk's Starlink in Ukraine

I think you guys are gonna to like it😤
6:00 PM · Dec 7, 2022
Starlink's program with Ukraine started on twitter so I can't criticize too much tbh


For Ukrainian Twitter: I am working on a video about Elon Musk and Starlink. After all the controversy surrounding his proposed peace deal, what is your opinion of Elon? (Explain Below)
This has been largely overlooked, but @elonmusk said Beijing asked him not to send Starlink to Ukraine (should be treated as such given the 🇨🇳 leverage on Tesla)

Which is kind of big I terms of how the war goes

By the way ~11.7k out of 18k Starlink sets in 🇺🇦 were bought by 🇵🇱
(keep in mind that Burns entered Ukraine through Poland)

This then begs the question: when Patrick Hilsman was referring to "advanced satellite technology that the Americans have provided them[Ukrainians]"... was Patrick implicitly referring to the Starlink systems that his friend Dylan Burns had brought along with him?

Not because anyone had asked Dylan to do so or anything ;) just purely out of the generosity and goodwill of his own heart ;) purely out of his own volition and initiative ;)

To conclude, when Patrick mentions the fact that Americans have donated "advanced satellite systems" to the Ukrainians, while failing to mention that it was his associate Dylan Burns who brought them those satellites (only to make a video complaining about them not working due to service outages) are Patrick and Dylan in Ukraine then merely reporting on what's happening... or are they actively creating the news and events they are reporting on? :unsure:
 

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Dylan Burns the bedroom racist GAMP:


/Ebony, /EbonyGirls, /ebonyhomemade and /FemBoys

Ohai black women and feminine men, don't you wanna date this white man with a "stalker" tattoo in Cyrillic on his arm because he thinks black women are too stupid to learn Cyrillic and notice the glaring red flag?
 

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@Empresa it's not shocking at all if you know Maryland and especially Baltimore. All they have there are fembois and black women. The whole State is an SJW safe space. The Youtuber ContraPoints still lives in Baltimore. Other trans Youtubers who live there: Kalvin Garrah, Riley Grace Roshong. Null is originally from Maryland too. I suspect that if Null had never moved to Florida with his mom and her crazy PTSD soldier-boyfriend where he had a culture shock at the Christian school he was sent to, hell, for all we know Null might have ended up like Dylan Burns, travelling to war zones while fapping to black women and fembois on Reddit.

 

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Dylan Burns has posted a video of what he claims is "a war crime" incident he personally witnessed and partially recorded a couple of days ago, where an English animal rescue worker got shelled in one of the recently flooded areas of Ukraine.


Dylan Burns says that he has more footage of this incident but says "it's exclusive with Off Beat Research", the Bellingcat-adjacent media company Burns has already published an article for:


Noor Nahas is a researcher focused on open-source investigation, social media, and finding new ways of tracking global changes in the world using basic open-source tools.

Noor has previously written for Bellingcat, trained teams and professionals on using OSINT, and worked with researchers and journalists to track and investigate deforestation and environmental disasters around the world.

He can be followed on Twitter @NoorNahas1.


Dylan Burns then does a shoutout to the Twitter account @Geoconfirmed, "a pretty reputable opsec geolocation group":


This is the Twitter account that Dylan Burns shows in his Youtube video:

https://twitter.com/EjShahid

This is the specific video from @EjShahid that Burns showed in the above video:



When I tried to archive Geoconfirmed Twitter account, I discovered that it only archives the top three tweets and no more:



Archive.org on the other has no archived pages for the @Geoconfirmed account whatsoever:


Clearly whomever is behind this account does not want their shit to be mirrored by others. So who is watching the watchmen here? :unsure:

No information is available on the Geoconfirmed website as to whom is behind their website or who their volunteers or founders are. Based on their very brief Twitter bio, is appears to be yet another Bellingcat associated website that engages in what looks like a form of forensic geology using satellite images. Dylan claims that Geoconfirmed were the ones who got ahold of the drone footage of the animal aid workers getting shelled and confirmed that footage to be real through their own satellite imagery.


Welcome to Geoconfirmed

Geoconfirmed is a community-based geolocating platform with a global reach, focused on the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. Our platform was established on the first day of the conflict (24 February 2022) solely through the efforts of the volunteers. Our primary objective is to provide a scientific layer of geolocation data to visual content, which can be used for situational awareness, investigations, countering misinformation, and other purposes

Our website offers a comprehensive map of the conflict zone along with access to our ongoing investigations. We encourage individuals who are passionate about our mission to join us as volunteers, or to contribute to our platform through donations. Your contributions enable us to improve our platform and purchase satellite imagery for our investigations.


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The two Archive.is mirrors are fucked:


I suppose they're actively blocking archive.is from mirroring their website?

Archive.org on has several mirrors over the past year, but those mirrors too are all fucked:


I had a look at their map of Ukraine and it's the most unsuable unintuitive shit I've ever seen in my life. They provide no easily interpretative information whatsoever so that you know what you're looking at or looking for. All I could see was a filter on the right hand side of the map that allows you to see how many incidents were allegedly committed by (read: attributed to) the Ukrainians, the Russians or NATO, or "others", whatever that means (they don't explain). I don't know who the fuck this map was designed for but it definitely wasn't your average civilian. Remember, these people claim to be doing a form of "journalism" in this manner, but if their journalism is so technocratic and inaccessible to the common man, who is this "journalism" really for? Surely not the average civilian trying to survive a war.

So here we have a website that is supposedly geolocating alleged war crimes... but we have no information as to whom is running this website and this website cannot be mirrored by any of the known internet archives. Isn't that interesting... If they are supposedly documenting war crimes, wouldn't they want there to be multiple archives of their work off-site? If only in case their website gets attacked by hackers?

I don't know, there's a kind of creepy omnipresence about this Geoconfirmed website, like they're the ones who could literally locate a needle in a haystack from above the earth. The casual, self-assured way that they claim to "confirm" things and attribute incidents to various parties does not sit well with me at all. I was always very suspicious of this form of "industrial" Big Data journalism, and I feel the same way looking at (or rather through) the world of Geoconfirmed.

Burns claims at the end of his Youtube video that he has already shopped the story of this incident with the injured English animal rescue worker to mainstream American MSM such as the Washington Post, so let's see what they have to say about this when they post their article.
 
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I'm watching this interview with a European Bellingcat non-demi-post-journalist(?), and this reluctance on his part to claim a journalistic identity and thus the journalistic responsibility that comes with it, is very typical of the Bellingcat-adjacent milieu in which Dylan Burns but also many others operate in this day and age:


This perfectly illustrates how you get someone like Dylan Burns, who by his own public admission does have a press pass (that he claims was given to him by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense), writing an article for the Bellingcat-adjacent Off Beat Research where Dylan very demonstratively, in the very first paragraph of his article, proceeds to remove his press patch, so he can supposedly embed better with the military:

Usually, journalists are accustomed to covering conflict zones in an ubiquitous “Press” patch affixed to the top center of their plate carrier. But on this trip, that patch is missing: earlier in the day, I was advised by Ukrainian armed forces to take it off due to the fact that it was reflective, and made me easier to spot.

This is, of course, the point of the patch: to highlight that you are different from those around you. Society, professional conduct, and typical rules of engagement seem to constantly shout at us: “you are a member of the media, and should not be mistaken as a combatant!”

Unfortunately, the Russian army has rewritten those rules. With over 30 journalists already killed in the past seven months in Ukraine, it should be clear that this distinction does not matter to the Russian army. So instead, I wear as much green as possible, like I was instructed to by my traveling companions the day before. Absent an army-issued combat uniform, this is the best possible solution, and draping myself in green makes it so I blend in – at least somewhat – with the ocean of lush forestland covering most of Zaporizhia oblast in eastern Ukraine.

https://offbeatresearch.com/2022/10/on-the-road-with-ukraines-recoilless-riflemen/
Archived: https://archive.is/qj84c

In the bio under this article, Dylan Burns is identified as a "broadcaster" and a "conflict reporter" but, again, not as a journalist:

Dylan Burns is a broadcaster, political organizer, and conflict reporter based in Maryland. He most recently covered war and civil society from Ukraine, and has previously reported on politics, culture, civil rights, and protest movements in the United States and abroad. You can follow him on YouTube and Twitch @DylanBurnsTV, and on Twitter @DylanBurns1776. View all posts by Dylan Burns

Dylan Burns made sure to bring up him removing his press patch on this recent podcast Trying Not To Explode:

I went to the front line in Ukraine and I had a press badge on me, it was reflective, and I was told specifically to take it off, because it being reflective as a press badge, it could, for some soldiers just be a bull's eye.


Here's a screenshot I made of an actual CNN reporter wearing such a press patch that Dylan felt the need to remove:

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Here is the above screenshot in context:


As you can see this CNN journalist lived to tell the tale even and despite wearing the "PRESS" patch visibly on his vest... so why did Dylan Burns feel the need to remove his? Was it because he felt at risk... or was it rather because Ukrainian soldiers knew that civilians would be more willing to talk to him if he wasn't clearly marked as a journalist? Isn't a journalist removing their press patch kinda like an officer taking off his uniform and wearing civilian clothes to better infiltrate some scene? Or a soldier taking off their uniform and insignia to better infiltrate an enemy camp? (Next time a soldier asks you to take off your press badge, ask them if they would please remove their own insignia first.)

Dylan Burns' claim that he had to remove his press patch because it supposedly made him a target of Russian snipers is likely bullshit IMO. His removal of the press patch was mainly a performative act, whereby he symbolically casts off the label of the press and thus the obligations of an actual journalist, just like the rest of these Bellingcat-pedigreed post-faux-non-journalists, who nevertheless have to shop their stories to the mainstream press - as Burns explicitly stated he's currently doing with his story about the injured animal rescuer, trying to get Washington Post to write about it.

Again, I don't have a problem with any kind of citizen journalism - KiwiFarms for years argued that if whatever Open Source Intelligence is good for Bellingcat, it's good for KiwiFarms (or 4chan, or Doxbin) as well. I do have a problem with the undercurrent of contempt that Bellingcat seems to have for traditional journalism, at the same time as they seem to depend on traditional journalism for their reach and clout. There seems to be a symbiotic if not outright incestuous relationship between the two here that is masked as antagonism, when they seem to be wholly ideologically aligned otherwise. Bellingcat - and other similar outfits - is very much a symptom of the traditional media downsizing their research departments and outsourcing research ("they [trad media] increasingly don't have boots on the ground") to such post-faux-non-journalists who want the clout of journalism but not the responsibilities.
 
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Dylan Burns now claims that there is no plan to send Polish troops to Ukraine:


I mean, this is just nonsense, there's not a plan to deploy Polish troops to Ukraine. I don't know what they're... just nonsense. They have no paper trail, no audio, nothing whatsoever for what would be a massive allegation that the Polish government is trying to provoke the Belarusians into fighting a war with them, as the Belarusians are literally trying to stone the Poles.

It was literally reported in the Guardian that there is a plan to send Polish troops to Ukraine:

Poland and the Baltic states may deploy troops to Ukraine if they are unsatisfied with NATO

Bellingcat-adjacent in action :rolleyes: Bellingcat don't like the traditional media, so it's unlikely they read The Guardian. Then again, Bellingcat insist that their ignorance and "lack of expertise" is their strength over traditional journalists:


The nerds at Bellingcat with their industrial Big Data crunching look down upon traditional journalists who still bother with irrelevant outdated methods like learning a foreign language to better understand social media videos, like who the fuck even does that:


No Imposter Syndrome whatsoever amongst the Bellingcat bunch and their offbeat offshoots.

Fact is, the war in Ukraine is used to rehabilitate Poland politically:


 

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Wholesome life advice from @The Gays From LA.

All jokes aside now, I do think Dylan removing his press badge and making sure to mention it at every opportunity was mostly performative. Just like the rest of the OSINT bros from the Bellingcat-adjacent milieu in which Dylan operates, he too is flip-flopping on the question of whether he's a post-faux-non-meta journalist. I know he's going to say that he was with the military and had to follow their orders but come on now, watch that video with the CNN reporter wearing a similar badge, that obviously didn't make him a target and no one asked him to remove his press badge either. If the Russians are drone bombing people from the skies - like they did with the animal rescue worker whom Dylan covered in his video - they obviously can't tell if they are wearing a press badge.

About a week ago Dylan Burns posted this video explaining why he isn't streaming:


But I suspect I can guess the real reason he hasn't been streaming:


The Ukrainian counter-offensive is not going as expected:


Notice how they're now openly talking about throwing Poland into the frenzy... which Dylan Burns just the other day denied was happening despite Poland themselves threatening to take matters into their own hands if they were unsatisfied with NATO involvement in the war.




 

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Dylan Burns is trying to play the Fog of War game on this Livestream with regards to the counter-offensive not going as planned:


"Everything's still extremely blurry, we don't know what's going on."

LMAO, we know exactly what's going on: the Russians have gone all scortched earth and have shifted strategy from trying to (re-)capture land to now focusing on trapping Ukrainian soldiers in the proverbial barrel so they can kill as many of them to raise Ukrainian military casualty numbers and destroy morale. Now all of a sudden Ukraine wants to "pause" their counter-offensive.

I would respect Dylan Burns more if he was just honest about what's happening instead of trying to play the Fog of War game.

.....The main message in it is 'everything is very difficult', because the enemy threw all it's forces to stop our (AFU) offensive and we need to know the fact that it will be a tough fight.

"Then the Ukrainian fighters liberated part of the Kharkiv and Kherson regions in a short time. However, this time the front line, terrain and weather conditions are completely different. Plus, the Russians had the opportunity to prepare. The density of minefields there is incredible. And unlike Russians, Ukrainians take care of the lives of their soldiers"- Reznikov said.



That's why the EU is going around with a begging bowl now:


Britain must be looking at this right now going: thank God we're no longer a part of this shitty club of loan-shark ambulance chasers, thank God the ECB no longer get to ask us to provide the "bait" for the EU to sucker in those poorer nations on the periphery, LMAO. There's no such thing as the EU "supporting" anyone. This is not "support", it's the usual ambulance chasing from the ECB. The 50 billion euros are just another loanshark loan that they expect to be repaid in due time, otherwise the ECB banksters will come in with their austerity packages to rob Ukraine blind like they did with the PIGS.
 

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Here you go, I think I found the anti-Putin meme that likely served as the inspiration for Dylan Burns' back tattoo of the Z-skull impaled on the Ukrainian trident:


Trying to get SJWs like Dylan Burns to admit that the counter-offensive is stalled is like trying to get them to admit that there is sexual dimorphism.

Dylan Burns won't admit it but Zelensky and the Institute for the Study of War will:

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky acknowledged that the progress of Ukrainian counteroffensives has been slower than expected, likely due to effective Russian defenses.

 

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Dylan Burns has very likely read this OnionFarms thread!

Dylan Burns did a Livestream about the Wagner mutiny, and was asked to show his Ukrainian trident tatoo:


He now refuses to show the tattoo. He then made a remark that is a very strong indication that he has actually read his thread here on OF, because he said: "Every time I show it, someone screengrabs it to claim it's a Natsee tattoo.", which is not what I said, I merely posted tweets from others replying to him about his tattoo, pointing out that the trident is considered a symbol of Ukrainian far right groups.

Dylan refuses to confirm my own discovery, that his tattoo was likely based on an anti-Putin drawing of Putin's severed head impaled on a Ukrainian trident. I guess Dylan liked the original design but did not want Putin's face on his body, so he replaced Putin's skull with a more generic Z skull.
 

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Dylan Burns is openly using Eliot Higgins of Bellingcat as a source on his latest Livestream on the Wagner mutiny:


Dylan Burns by way of Higgins is now suggesting that the RU military supposedly never struck Wagner, that no evidence whatsoever was provided by Wagner of this alleged bombing, basically accusing Prigozhin of making up an incident as an impetus to launch the Crusade on Moscow, something he had been planning months before but merely needed a false flag event to initiate.

One of his listeners then asks Dylan Burns if it was possible that Ukraine struck Wagner and Wagner are lying about it being Russia to launch the mutiny, he reverts to these being no evidence:


So Dylan and Higgins are basically accusing Deutsche Welle and Washington Post of making reporting on bullshit, thus helping to perpetrate Prigozhin's "disinformation":



This is from CTV, from over a month ago:

The head of Russia's feared Wagner private army suggested Sunday that four Russian military aircraft that reportedly crashed in a region that borders Ukraine may have been shot down by Russia's own forces.

Russian officials have not commented on reports in Russian conventional and social media that two fighter planes -- an Su-34 and an Su-35 -- and two military Mi-8 helicopters crashed in the Bryansk region on Saturday.

State news agency Tass cited unspecified emergency services sources as saying the Su-34 and one helicopter crashed. Other sources, including Vladimir Rogov, the head of a Russian collaborationist organization in Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia province, claimed four aircraft went down.
...

A spokesman for Ukraine's air force, Yuriy Ihnat, denied Sunday that Ukraine was involved in downing the aircraft. In remarks on Ukrainian television, he suggested that Russia itself could be responsible, but he later walked back the remark, saying it was an attempt at joking.

However, Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin offered a similar hypothesis.

"Four planes, -- if you draw a circle in the places of their fall, it turns out that this circle has a diameter (and all of them lie exactly in a circle) of 40 kilometres (25 miles). ... Now go on the Internet and see what kind of air defense weapon could be in the center of this circle, and then build your own versions," Prigozhin said on Telegram.

Prigozhin, whose forces are in the thick of a grinding monthslong battle for the city of Bakhmut, clarified that he was not "in the know" about the situation. But he has repeatedly criticized the Russian military for its strategy in Ukraine and for allegedly failing to supply Wagner with the ammunition it needs in Bakhmut.

Wagner mercenary boss suggests Russia may have downed its own military aircraft

So allegedly there was an incident over a month ago where Russia supposedly shot down between 2 to 4 of their own aircraft, with Ukraine denying only responsibility, and Wagner allegedly witnessed this incident and reported it on Telegram.

If it's true that Russia has already shot down 2-4 of their own aircraft, how on earth can Higgins be so sure that Russia attacking Wagner was just a false flag pretense for Prigozhin to launch the mutiny?

Furthermore, if Prigozhin was making shit up about Wagner being attacked by the Russian military, why did DW and WaPo report his statements? I'll assume Bellingcat has their people within DW and WaPo - since they've managed to infiltrate every Western mass-media outlet - so why don't they ask their people inside DW and WaPo how they fact-checked this story?

Dylan Burns then shows a bunch of footage of people in Rostov cheering on Wagner... but if Higging believes this was all staged, weren't the crowds also staged? Like, once you start speculating like this, where does it stop?

Edit: this part was likely directly ripped off from Null's comments in the Ukraine thread:


Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion
I keep thinking of the big caravan from Mad Max: Fury Road with the guy playing guitar on top of a car. It's literally a bunch of pissed off ex-cons in tanks. If at least one guy has some speakers strapped to his tank it's not that far from reality.
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LMAO, look y'all, I got Dylan Burns to read KF.
 
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