"Emo" and "Goth" poseurs: the community that thinks being a music genre is a fashion statement.

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Part One: The true fans of Emo and Goth
Most people of today's masses are ignorant of what "emo" and "goth" actually are, and today, I'll inform you guys on what those terms actually are, and we'll laugh at some poseurs that probably grew out of the poseur stage and became hipsters or something. Hell, I might add some poseur metalheads into the mix.

Now the question is:
What exactly is "emo" anyways?
Well, I'm glad you asked! Emo or emotive hardcore, was an underground Washington D.C scene started in the mid 80's, specifically 1985 and 1986, started by Guy Picciotto, Brendan Canty, and former Minor Threat band member Ian MacKay, and Mike Fellows. It is a subgenre of hardcore punk, and it has many emo offshoots of the genre as well. For example, Midwest Emo is basically from Midwestern USA, and has more of a pop-like sound to it instead of the edgy, more hardcore, sound of it's predecessor. Examples of Midwest Emo are: Cap 'N Jazz, Sunny Day Real Estate, The Get Up Kids, and American Football. There's also a genre called Skramz, which fans of us had to rename from it's former name "screamo", because people now days think anything that's deathcore is apparently "screamo". Skramz bands are Page Ninety Nine, Orchid (screamo bands, not doom metal band), and City of Caterpillar. There's also some bands from the naughties and teens that became a newer wave of emo, including Ihatemyself (I know it formed in the nineties, but it was still a think in the early naughties), Mom Jeans, Modern Football, and Algernon Cadwallader. Even though true emo is about the music scene, there was some fashion aspects to it. It truly looked like a cross between the modern hipster and geek chic lol.
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A collection of band t-shirts from actual emo bands

What is Goth?
The Goths were once a Germanic tribe, but were a niche scene in the late 1970's and the whole entire decade of the 1980's. Ever heard of the Batcave? Well, that was a Goth club in London. Majority of Goth bands during the time were mainly European, but also had some American bands as well. Goth is also a subgenre of punk funnily enough, and most of the types of Goth music are Goth-rock, Post-Punk, New-wave, and Deathrock. Bands falling under those genres includes Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees, Joy Division, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, The Sisters of Mercy, Specimen, and Alien Sex Fiend. Even though Goth music is based on music only, Goths dressed like some mainstream 80's (but only the hair style) and a lot of punk rock influences, but only darker.
Part two will be about the poseurs don't worry!
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Girls and women wore either cat eye glasses or thick horn rimmed glasses
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naught

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Part One: The true fans of Emo and Goth
Most people of today's masses are ignorant of what "emo" and "goth" actually are, and today, I'll inform you guys on what those terms actually are, and we'll laugh at some poseurs that probably grew out of the poseur stage and became hipsters or something. Hell, I might add some poseur metalheads into the mix.

Now the question is:
What exactly is "emo" anyways?
Well, I'm glad you asked! Emo or emotive hardcore, was an underground Washington D.C scene started in the mid 80's, specifically 1985 and 1986, started by Guy Picciotto, Brendan Canty, and former Minor Threat band member Ian MacKay, and Mike Fellows. It is a subgenre of hardcore punk, and it has many emo offshoots of the genre as well. For example, Midwest Emo is basically from Midwestern USA, and has more of a pop-like sound to it instead of the edgy, more hardcore, sound of it's predecessor. Examples of Midwest Emo are: Cap 'N Jazz, Sunny Day Real Estate, The Get Up Kids, and American Football. There's also a genre called Skramz, which fans of us had to rename from it's former name "screamo", because people now days think anything that's deathcore is apparently "screamo". Skramz bands are Page Ninety Nine, Orchid (screamo bands, not doom metal band), and City of Caterpillar. There's also some bands from the naughties and teens that became a newer wave of emo, including Ihatemyself (I know it formed in the nineties, but it was still a think in the early naughties), Mom Jeans, Modern Football, and Algernon Cadwallader. Even though true emo is about the music scene, there was some fashion aspects to it. It truly looked like a cross between the modern hipster and geek chic lol.
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Girls and women wore glasses like cat eyes or horn rimmed glasses
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A collection of band t-shirts from actual emo bands
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What is Goth?
The Goths were once a Germanic tribe, but were a niche scene in the late 1970's and the whole entire decade of the 1980's. Ever heard of the Batcave? Well, that was a Goth club in London. Majority of Goth bands during the time were mainly European, but also had some American bands as well. Goth is also a subgenre of punk funnily enough, and most of the types of Goth music are Goth-rock, Post-Punk, New-wave, and Deathrock. Bands falling under those genres includes Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees, Joy Division, Teenage Jesus and the Jerks, The Sisters of Mercy, Specimen, and Alien Sex Fiend. Even though Goth music is based on music only, Goths dressed like some mainstream 80's (but only the hair style) and a lot of punk rock influences, but only darker.
Part two will be about the poseurs don't worry!
lel ikr accessories aren't a personality.
 

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Twatter is back
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Poseurs:
A poseur, which is the correct spelling is someone that pretends to be something they're not. Usually, goth poseurs like to listen to music like Marilyn Manson, Motionless in White, HIM, Cradle of Filth and the like. Emo poseurs listen to bands, even when they specifically being based said they're not emo like Fall out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Black Veil Brides, Pierce the Veil, Hatebreed and the like.
"Goth" poseurs:
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"Emo" poseurs:
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naught

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Poseurs:
A poseur, which is the correct spelling is someone that pretends to be something they're not. Usually, goth poseurs like to listen to music like Marilyn Manson, Motionless in White, HIM, Cradle of Filth and the like. Emo poseurs listen to bands, even when they specifically being based said they're not emo like Fall out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Black Veil Brides, Pierce the Veil, Hatebreed and the like.
"Goth" poseurs:
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Very cringe of em.
 

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I just wanted to express my dislike for the very popular gothic band Lebanon Hanover. I love a lot of gothic music, but how this band became such an institution in the goth scene is a mystery and a misery to me.


This music video perfectly illustrates everything wrong with this group. The singer's voice is off-key and monotonous. Post rock music is supposed to be somewhat repetitive, but this song here is just plain boring repetitive. They also deliberately filmed the music video in the most depressing, unremarkable, un-gothic urban environment they could find. I guess them opting for this location was supposed to be humorous but it just contributes to the overall sense of boredom the song conveys.
 

The Gays From LA

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Here's another song that's popular with goths nowadays that does absolutely nothing for me:

Horror Vacui - "My Funeral My Party"


The sound engineering on the guitars is atrocious and such an insult to the guitar player who clearly put some work into his playing, so I'll exclude him from my criticism. I don't understand though, with digital production tools at your disposal, that come with multiple filters that can imitate the sound of the most advanced recording studios... why have your guitars sound hissy and shitty like this? The worst thing about this track is definitely singer's voice. It is so fucking awful... when did goth singers become this crap?
 

The Gays From LA

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Here's another song that is apparently very popular within the contemporary goth scene: Fantasmas by Twin Tribes.
I think it's rather derivative and unoriginal, it could've been released in the 1980s just as it is. A lot has happened in music since the 1980s and I expect gothic bands to reflect that, not to merely try and recreate a 1980s sound. The delay effects on the voice are clearly ripping off Sisters of Mercy vocals, and the guitar is hissy again. I can appreciate the faster pace and the kinda-sorta catchy chorus:

 

The Gays From LA

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Hellovan Onion
I decided to look up what Kat Blaque has been posting and his takes are as dumbfuck as ever:


He literally does "gothic whiteface" as a black man in this video:


I remember decades ago reading a make-up guide for black goths, and they were told that it was ridiculous to copy the pale look of white goths and were told to wear foundation that is a few tones lighter than their current skin colour. Even white goths were told to avoid the white corpse paint and to just go for a pale look.
 

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Fake emos and goths? Cry me a river, cope and seethe, moron


"the community that thinks being a music genre is a fashion statement."​

It's a porn statement for me to fap to.
 
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